San Francisco Giants vs 49ers

[PanaManiac]

As a San Francisco (or Bay Area) resident sports fan, which team (above poll only) are you most loyal to?

[diablo234]

Since this is regarding the whole Bay Area shouldn't the Oakland Raiders, Oakland Athletics, San Jose Sharks, and the San Jose Earthquakes also be included to the poll?

[PanaManiac]

Originally Posted by diablo234

Since this is regarding the whole Bay Area shouldn't the Oakland Raiders, Oakland Athletics, San Jose Sharks, and the San Jose Earthquakes also be included to the poll?

You should go ahead and post that poll before I do. I was only curious about the popularity of the San Francisco teams. Had there been a forum exclusively for San Fran, I would've posted the poll there.

[JoshuaSantos]

Considering the 49ers are pulling out of San Francisco, you may have only a single option based on your criteria within a few years.

[PanaManiac]

Originally Posted by JoshuaSantos

Considering the 49ers are pulling out of San Francisco, you may have only a single option based on your criteria within a few years.

As long as the Niners retain the city name (e.g. NYC NFL teams play out of state) - which they plan to - they retain their San Francisco identity and my criterion remains beyond reproach. Furthermore, as of today, the aforementioned "pulling-out" is far from a done deal...

Once upon a time, the SF Giants were about to wind-up in Toronto and Tampa (or was it Jacksonville?), respectively...

And while I'm on a roll, forget about the A's in San (no way) Jose!

[ElDudarinodotcom]

Originally Posted by PanaManiac

As long as the Niners retain the city name (e.g. NYC NFL teams play out of state) - which they plan to - they retain their San Francisco identity and my criterion remains beyond reproach. Furthermore, as of today, the aforementioned "pulling-out" is far from a done deal...

Once upon a time, the SF Giants were about to wind-up in Toronto and Tampa (or was it Jacksonville?), respectively...

And while I'm on a roll, forget about the A's in San (no way) Jose!

It was Tampa. The only thing that allowed them to stay was the construction of AT&T Park.

I wouldn't count out the A's moving to San Jose just yet. True, Bud Selig moves like a dead slug when it comes to making decisions, but unless Oakland ponies up for a new stadium they really don't have a choice but to move.

[krudmonk]

The 49ers are a poorly run team. The Giants are a well-run corporation.

[PanaManiac]

Originally Posted by ElDudarinodotcom

It was Tampa. The only thing that allowed them to stay was the construction of AT&T Park.

I wouldn't count out the A's moving to San Jose just yet. True, Bud Selig moves like a dead slug when it comes to making decisions, but unless Oakland ponies up for a new stadium they really don't have a choice but to move.

It was the Tampa Bay area anyway and when I asked about Jacksonville, I meant St. Petersberg.

It wasn't the construction of the China Basin yard that kept the Giants in town, it was the acquisition of the franchise by the ownership group led by managing general partner Peter McGowan from then owner Bob Lurie, who bought and saved the team from moving to Toronto.

Whew...

My "no way, Jose" regarding the A's' move is mostly rhetorical, but if you believe the Giants' ownership, they firmly refuse to concede their territorial rights to the Southbay, which - ironically enough - was granted to them by then A's owner Wally Haas to keep 'em (Giants) in the Bay Area.

Bud Selig's foot-draggin' can be read as permission delayed is permission denied. However, from what I understand, the MLB owners' vote is pending on the issue and they have a history of voting in the Giants' favor, witness their vote to deny the move to Tampa Bay.

[PanaManiac]

Originally Posted by krudmonk

The 49ers are a poorly run team. The Giants are a well-run corporation.

I long for the good ol' (Eddie DeBartolo) days when the Niners were the envy and class of the NFL.

[JoshuaSantos]

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I think there is definitely a solid chance the A's will move to San Jose. If it was an easy no, it wouldn't have taken all of this time. I'm sure the committee is split and they're going back and forth on this one.

Originally Posted by PanaManiac

It was the Tampa Bay area anyway and when I asked about Jacksonville, I meant St. Petersberg.

It wasn't the construction of the China Basin yard that kept the Giants in town, it was the acquisition of the franchise by the ownership group led by managing general partner Peter McGowan from then owner Bob Lurie, who bought and saved the team from moving to Toronto.

Whew...

My "no way, Jose" regarding the A's' move is mostly rhetorical, but if you believe the Giants' ownership, they firmly refuse to concede their territorial rights to the Southbay, which - ironically enough - was granted to them by then A's owner Wally Haas to keep 'em (Giants) in the Bay Area.

Bud Selig's foot-draggin' can be read as permission delayed is permission denied. However, from what I understand, the MLB owners' vote is pending on the issue and they have a history of voting in the Giants' favor, witness their vote to deny the move to Tampa Bay.

[jlee]

1. California Golden Bears
2. Oakland Raiders
3. Oakland A's

Not a fan of the Niners nor the Giants.

[PanaManiac]

Originally Posted by jlee

1. California Golden Bears
2. Oakland Raiders
3. Oakland A's

Not a fan of the Niners nor the Giants.

If I didn't know better, I'd take that for an understatement...

[PanaManiac]

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[Animo]

Originally Posted by krudmonk

The 49ers are a poorly run team. The Giants are a well-run corporation.

+ 1

I voted for the Giants since I never really understood American football.

[PanaManiac]

Originally Posted by Animo

+ 1

I voted for the Giants since I never really understood American football.

You did?! No one's voted since the first hour of the poll...

I think you'd love it if you understood it. When I first came to this country, I didn't understand it either, but I got caught-up in the 49ers hoopla of '85 and learned it.

And to those inclined to dump on the Niners for their recent futility, bare in mind that they own 5 Lombardi Trophies and the best (5-0) Superbowl record in the NFL, 1st. to win 5. I'm just sayin'...

As for the Giants, I bled Dodger blue in my native land, after a few years of being here, I converted to the orange and black ("root root for the home team").

I'm equally loyal to both teams (that single vote above is mine, BTW)

[triodegradable]

Giants , but I am Argentinian and I do not Understand nothing about American Football , we love the soccer

[JoshuaSantos]

Originally Posted by PanaManiac

Furthermore, as of today, the aforementioned "pulling-out" is far from a done deal...

Oh, it's such a done deal it's not even funny. I'm really enjoying driving by the construction site every day on the way back from work to check out their progress.

The good news for San Franciscans is that the stadium may end up being more convenient to get to than candlestick if they are able to get Caltrain there via the ACE tracks.

[Cal_Escapee]

Originally Posted by JoshuaSantos

Considering the 49ers are pulling out of San Francisco, you may have only a single option based on your criteria within a few years.

Lose a Giant, gain a Warrior:

Warriors owners meet again with Mayor Lee, serious about S.F. arena

It's a fine trade-off by me.

[SF1977]

Originally Posted by Cal_Escapee

Lose a Giant, gain a Warrior:



It's a fine trade-off by me.

Agreed. While I'm sad to lose the 9ers, I'd gladly take the ~45 basketball games/year in a new waterfront arena over the ~10 football games/year any day. Bring it on!

[PanaManiac]

It's currently a wonderful time to be a Giants fan. If this trend continues in September, we could have both teams (incl. 49ers) performing at the top of their game simultaneously...