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[BlackFriars]

Originally Posted by js1000

It will soon be known as Manchester Quays. Salford and Trafford will be merged into Manchester over the next 20 years.

I reckon Salford councillors will be fighting against that. Salford is getting quite well known now on the main news with media city.... and shootings

[thecityofgold]

Originally Posted by BlackFriars

I reckon Salford councillors will be fighting against that. Salford is getting quite well known now on the main news with media city.... and shootings

At some point Salford council will go bust or suffer some other self-inflicted mishap and Manchester will gobble it up. Like a lion stalking a crippled wilderbeast.

[Lookin Up]

Originally Posted by marni1971

The Quays of Trafford? That's a new one. What PR spin. It's Trafford Park and theres no denying it.

Not really, conversational shorthand more like.
The correct name for the side of the canal with IWM and the new Corrie set is Trafford Wharfside - not Salford Quays....which is....on the Salford side of the canal.

The same confusion which gets most smartarses from outside the area saying that MUFC/Old Trafford is in Salford....you know the ''it's not even in Manchester, it's in Salford! arf, snort'' brigade.

I just love wiping the smug grins off their ignorant faces with the humble facts.

But at the risk of starting the whole boundary thing off, the MCT/SFD thing is as daft as standing on Westminster bridge pointing at the South Bank and trying to convince someone it's not in London.
Certifiable behaviour, but we insist on doing it up here.
United we stand/divided we fall springs to mind.

[js1000]

Originally Posted by Lookin Up

Not really, conversational shorthand more like.
The correct name for the side of the canal with IWM and the new Corrie set is Trafford Wharfside - not Salford Quays....which is....on the Salford side of the canal.

The same confusion which gets most smartarses from outside the area saying that MUFC/Old Trafford is in Salford....you know the ''it's not even in Manchester, it's in Salford! arf, snort'' brigade.

I just love wiping the smug grins off their ignorant faces with the humble facts.

But at the risk of starting the whole boundary thing off, the MCT/SFD thing is as daft as standing on Westminster bridge pointing at the South Bank and trying to convince someone it's not in London.
Certifiable behaviour, but we insist on doing it up here.
United we stand/divided we fall springs to mind.

It's not even in Salford, it's in Trafford! Couldn't resist.

Reasons why I say Salford and Trafford will merge:
1. The boundary changes in 1974 proposed that Manchester, Salford and Trafford become one borough. The name proposed was something like "Manchester with Salford and Trafford". The proposal was rejected, but it shows such an idea has been considered before.

2. Areas of Salford and Trafford are closer to the city centre than the southern areas of Manchester.

3. Manchester Ship Canal, Manchester United, Imperial War Museum North or Media City in Manchester (as you sometimes hear, but is incorrect). What do they all have in common?

For the aforementioned reasons, I can see some Londoner thinking "why don't we just merge the three?" I'm not totally for it, but in many ways it seems a natural fit. Also, if Manchester, Salford and Trafford merged into one city it would probably be overtake Birmingham population wise. That's all that Brum has over Manchester at the moment so the second city debate would be all but over.

[rolybling]

Yes but any suggestion of some sort of name morphing to come up with a 'new' name for the city is nothing short of insanity. Any name change would undo near on 20 years of hard work promoting Manchester worldwide.

[madferret]

Won't happen. It would have to be called 'Manchester' or 'Salford' to stay as a city. Several names were suggested for the Salford Metropolitan Borough in 1974 but it had to be called 'City of Salford' to keep its charter status.

I don't hear many people calling for the cities of London and Westminster to merge because people refer to Westminster as 'in London', and its the larger of the two.

[Meadows]

Can we just absorb all of the GM City Region into one city please. This is ridiculous self-harm.

[tellmeastorey]

http://www.egi.co.uk/news/article.aspx?id=754020

Three shortlisted for ITV site
03-08-2012 | 13:41 | Print
ITV has shortlisted three buyers for the ITV Granada site on Quay Street in Manchester.

EG revealed in May that LandProp, the development wing of Swedish retail giant IKEA, and the Bion Group, were both in talks to take on the 14-acre site on the edge of the city centre.

Manchester-based regeneration outfit GenR8, led by former Amec chairman John Early, completes the trio.

The bids are understood to stand at around £25m. LandProp has set aside £500m to develop the site and GenR8 is backed by Chelsfield.

The site has consent for 1.2m sq ft of offices, 200,000 sq ft of retail, 895 homes and a 575-space car park.

Jones Lang Lasalle is advising ITV over the sale as the broadcaster prepares to move to Peel Group’s MediaCityUK at the end of 2013, occupying a plot on the Trafford side of the scheme.



Simon.Binns@estatesgazette.com

[poshbakerloo]

I really wanna see the new corrie sets

[Rational Plan]

Originally Posted by tellmeastorey

http://www.egi.co.uk/news/article.aspx?id=754020

Three shortlisted for ITV site
03-08-2012 | 13:41 | Print
ITV has shortlisted three buyers for the ITV Granada site on Quay Street in Manchester.

EG revealed in May that LandProp, the development wing of Swedish retail giant IKEA, and the Bion Group, were both in talks to take on the 14-acre site on the edge of the city centre.

Manchester-based regeneration outfit GenR8, led by former Amec chairman John Early, completes the trio.

The bids are understood to stand at around £25m. LandProp has set aside £500m to develop the site and GenR8 is backed by Chelsfield.

The site has consent for 1.2m sq ft of offices, 200,000 sq ft of retail, 895 homes and a 575-space car park.

Jones Lang Lasalle is advising ITV over the sale as the broadcaster prepares to move to Peel Group’s MediaCityUK at the end of 2013, occupying a plot on the Trafford side of the scheme.



Simon.Binns@estatesgazette.com

I think Lanprop would be best, if they do the same as in London, then they will build the whole site fairly quickly and all the homes will be for rent. It is hopefully part of a new trend for corporate ownership of rental properties.

[AJD1984]

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http://www.propertyweek.com/5040932....kingnews%5BFor

– ITV picks winner for giant Manchester scheme

Andrew

[nq]

ITV picks winner for giant Manchester scheme

8 August 2012

A joint venture between Chelsfield and three former Amec executives is preferred bidder to buy ITV's Quay Street site, one of Manchester's largest mixed-use development opportunities, PropertyWeek.com can reveal.

Genr8 Developments is thought to have entered exclusive talks to buy the 13.5 acre northern headquarters of ITV, which the broadcaster will vacate next summer in a relocation to Peel's MediaCity. The site is located between Spinningfields and Castlefields, and was put up for sale last year. The last element to move will be the set of Coronation Street.

The developer, founded by former Amec chairman John Early, is thought to have offered more than £20m for the land and is believed to be in talks with backers from South-East Asia to complete an unconditional deal.

PropertyWeek.com revealed last week that ITV had shortlisted Genr8, The Bion Group, and InterIkea subsidiary Landprop, which has a large regeneration site in east London.

Greater Manchester Property Venture Fund, advised by GVA, and residential landlord Grainger both lodged interest in Quay Street, but did not bid as high as the shortlisted three.

The ITV site has consent for 1.2m sq ft of offices, 200,000 sq ft of retail, 895 homes and a 575-space car park.

Jones Lang LaSalle, which advises ITV, is thought to be looking to determine an agreement with an individual party by September. All parties declined to comment.

http://www.propertyweek.com/news/new...040932.article

[Nathan Dawz]

As posted by flange in the retail thread...

Sleuth's Rumour Mill

IKEA to confirm plans to move headquarters for the UK into the old Granada site in the next 12 months. Of course all this could be just a load of old Swedish horse meat balls. Or maybe not...

http://www.manchesterconfidential.co...hings-And-More

[marni1971]

They may confirm the move but certainly won't be moving in within the next year.

[heatonparkincakes]

Originally Posted by js1000

It's not even in Salford, it's in Trafford! Couldn't resist.

Reasons why I say Salford and Trafford will merge:
1. The boundary changes in 1974 proposed that Manchester, Salford and Trafford become one borough. The name proposed was something like "Manchester with Salford and Trafford". The proposal was rejected, but it shows such an idea has been considered before.

2. Areas of Salford and Trafford are closer to the city centre than the southern areas of Manchester.

3. Manchester Ship Canal, Manchester United, Imperial War Museum North or Media City in Manchester (as you sometimes hear, but is incorrect). What do they all have in common

For the aforementioned reasons, I can see some Londoner thinking "why don't we just merge the three?" I'm not totally for it, but in many ways it seems a natural fit. Also, if Manchester, Salford and Trafford merged into one city it
would probably be overtake Birmingham population wise. That's all that Brum has over Manchester at the moment so the second city debate would be all but over.

With no disrespect, the reasons why it wouldnt happen.

A. Mergers at this scale cost a fortune. Why waste public funds on this when there so much needed in a needy city.

B. Councils are created as democratically elected mechanism to deliver local services. No other reason. Mergers to represent some imagined mega Manchester zone isn't why they exist. Organizing safeguarding reviews for kids is.

C. No one wants it, more will oppose it.

D. Ask most peope,who use or work in local government and they will tell you bigger is badder in delivering the kind of people services that local councils provide or contract out.

E. Frankly only a few deluded Brummie politicos and forum warriors are ar$Ed about some imaginary second city status.

Frankly even as an outsider I can see that Manchester's historic raison d'etre is not about being runner up to London, but trying to punch above it's weight
with the major cities of Europe and America.

[heatonparkincakes]

And I have just have to say there was never any suggestion of a joint Manchester Salford council.

Not in the early 70s by the Redcliffe Maud Royal Commission or recently.

There are some deeds around running joint services for cost reasons, but no discussion of mergers.

There was a suggestion for an authority that covered both Bury and Rochdale, but that was rejected.

There was original suggestions to have a much larger Greater Manchester running from Chorley down to Congleton and from Warrington to Glossop, but Ted Heath gave way to rural Tories in north Cheshire on that one.

Back on thread.

Ikea. Sounds promising. Would delight those in the MCC who image Ikea to be a pc company, right on and trendy, etc.

13.5 acres that substantial. How does that measure up with Spinningfields and Salford Quays in size, employment and Gva thingy raised.

[Cherguevara]

Originally Posted by heatonparkincakes

And I have just have to say there was never any suggestion of a joint Manchester Salford council.

Not in the early 70s by the Redcliffe Maud Royal Commission or recently.

There are some deeds around running joint services for cost reasons, but no discussion of mergers.

There was a suggestion for an authority that covered both Bury and Rochdale, but that was rejected.

There was original suggestions to have a much larger Greater Manchester running from Chorley down to Congleton and from Warrington to Glossop, but Ted Heath gave way to rural Tories in north Cheshire on that one.

Back on thread.

Ikea. Sounds promising. Would delight those in the MCC who image Ikea to be a pc company, right on and trendy, etc.

13.5 acres that substantial. How does that measure up with Spinningfields and Salford Quays in size, employment and Gva thingy raised.

Under Redcliffe Maud the city of Manchester would have comprised most of the area now within the M60, including the county boroughs of Manchester and Salford. Whether this would have been a good idea or not is open to question, but it was the proposal.

[VDB]

Originally Posted by Cherguevara

Under Redcliffe Maud the city of Manchester would have comprised most of the area now within the M60, including the county boroughs of Manchester and Salford. Whether this would have been a good idea or not is open to question, but it was the proposal.

That's mostly what I would consider to be 'Manchester' anyway. That would've created a 'City Borough' with the suburban boroughs of Rochdale, Stockport, Bury etc round the edge

There's surely well over a million people living within the M60? Would've made Manchester the largest local authority in Europe - Birmingham currently holds that title.

However I'm a believer in small councils, they're way more effective. I also quite like our borough set up and how there's in fact two cities in Greater Manchester - makes it seem more interesting

[js1000]

Originally Posted by marni1971

They may confirm the move but certainly won't be moving in within the next year.

So is this Ikea headquarter move serious? Does anyone know what it entails? Office, warehouse space? I'm intrigued.

[VDB]

Originally Posted by js1000

So is this Ikea headquarter move serious? Does anyone know what it entails? Office, warehouse space? I'm intrigued.

Rumour by Sleuth. Lets see if the other rumours - such as boutique markets down in Hardman Square - come true first.

I sincerely hope so If it's a headquarters I imagine it would be office space? Could be an anchor to an expanded Granada-Spinningfields!