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I don't know about the calculation you have made. First as far as I can tell Sudan prior 2011 (i.e., Sudan+S.Sudan) exported 8-10 bill. So 4 bill seems a bit fishy. The dubious number aside. You can read on any webpage (e.g. Wikipedia - if you don't trust it follow the link) about the peace agreement that the oil revenue was to be split 50-50 between 2005 and 2011. When that expires, Sudan come up with 25% to 35% . Which could be a lot but everything has to be done gradually. They can negotiate while using the pipe. It is not fair to just shut the revenue of the north considering it is part of the peace deal. Note that the two countries have not even split their debt. Therefore, their fate is interwoven. Instead of going for the gun they should go for the round table.
About new pipe it is all gimmick if you ask me, why? -Not suitable geography (mountainous), high insurance cost because kenya has its oil problem -port facility needs to be developed -refineries -hard to find finance (even China didn't want to get involved) -it will take at least three years (are they going to continue to depend on loans to finance government budget that is crazy) Believe me it doesn't make sense. I am not saying Sudan is saint in this but the bullish attitude of South Sudan doesn't help. |
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Layman has a point, it would have been better if both Sudans came to their senses and reached an agreement that would satisfy both parties since the infrastructure is already in place
But since that isn't the case, Djibouti should take advantage of the current rift between the Sudans and re-route all of South Sudan's trade through Djiboutian ports, including the pipeline. That's good to hear...We're not demanding as much as Sudan, 137 millions/year seems perfect!
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Like Ras Siyan said I wish the North and South Sudan solve their problem and reach some agreement ,but from the Addis Ababa negotiation don't think that going to happen.So in this kind of case I don't see any problem offering our support for the construction of this rather important oil-pipline through our country and getting paid on the process. The $137 million Dollars (or closer) is what we get exporting leather this year .So its not small money for our Dollar starving economy. |
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South Sudan cant afford two similar projects.The LAPSSET corridor to Lamu has already commenced so we can forget about a pipeline to Djibouti.Also why would SS pay fees to two countries when they can pay just once?
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The oil agreement ended nor in favor of sudan or south sudan. its a loss for both, we in north didn't get our wanted $36 and south sudan didn't get its $0.85. it ended up $11-$10 for transport and additional $15-$16 when adding financial package for the 3 year deal ($3.2 bilion) which makes it $26 for sudan , however south sudans total loss from the barrels is $40 which $26 goes to sudan and rest goes to foreign companies.
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![]() You are so short sighted! First of all, the more choices you have, the lower the cost of traqnsport will get! At this moment, the only choice you have is Port Sudan and guess what, you are paying a crazy 15% or 35% per barrel because you have no other chice what so ever. Be mindful that the international standard is 1% or 2%. If your country had other options to transport the oil, it wouldn't be going through the near economic crisis situation that it is currently undergoing. Another factor is that your oil would have easier access to the itnernational market if pipelines are built to multiple ports therefore bringing about stability to the ROSS economy as well as the region at large. Also keep in mind that Editing: mwanamwiwa, I just saw the Kenyan flag in your avator though I assumked you were a S. Sudanese in the above comment. So let me just add one more sentense to the comment: The more development there is in the region, the more everyone benefits. Lamu/LAPSSET will be one choice; while Port Djibouti will be another but no one wil hogg all the beef by themselves. Last edited by Skyliner123; October 8th, 2012 at 03:19 AM. |
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3 billion dollar South Sudan-Djibouti Oil Pipeline close to Being Signed
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Good news!
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SS cant decide. Surely it would be better for a line via to Mombassa as Kenya could share the cost of it to transport its own oil?
And Kenya is less mountainous than Ethiopia so I assume it would be cheaper/easier to build the line. |
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The problem that South Sudan has right now is the fact that North Sudan has a monopoly of oil pipelines. Therefore, it is strategically important that all the pipelines via Kenya and via Ethiopia be built from a SOuth Sudanese point of view. There is no need for Kenya to be the only alternative line and the competition comming from Port Djibouti will be great for the entire region including Kenya itself.
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^ agreed.
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Only 3 months? Great news either way, I'd be glad if the contract went to a Japanese company (quality).
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Good news all around. Thanks Ras Siyan, your countries owes you a great deal of gratitude for your work and enthusiasm for the Djibouti.
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