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Old July 11th, 2012, 09:34 AM   #3921
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It's as I thought they simply wait for the final foundation design from Langan (www.langan.com) and as soon as they will get it foundation works begin.

This is what our respected jeddah insider Rody69 told me in one of the saudi threads:

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as far as I was told, that everything is almost ready except some detailed plans is under reversion by Langan Int (the foundation planners) and they had to change some of the traffic plans for the whole project which was made by HOK Arch, plus he was talking about a new system for the storms and rain water disposal which I didn't really get .
the other thing is they are making the detailed road plans for the whole Kingdom City...

Here an article about the langan involvement:

Bethlehem engineering firm working on $1.2B Saudi tower

By Brian Pedersen May 21. 2012 8:00AM

A Bethlehemfirm has been hired to help build a 3,000-feet tall tower inSaudi Arabia.
Langan Engineering of Bethlehem is working on a proposal for Kingdom Tower, a skyscraping structure to be built in Saudi Arabia. The first phase of the Kingdom City project comprises the tower that will rise more than 3,000 feet, a 65,000-square-meter retail mall and an underground garage designed to park over 3,000 vehicles. Construction work on the $1.2 billion project is slated to begin this year.


Langan Engineering is working with Kingdom Holding Co. as the geotechnical engineer for the monstrous Kingdom Tower, a $1.2 billion structure that will rise above the oil-rich Middle Eastern nation.

The first phase of the project includes the tower, a nearly 700,000-square-foot retail mall, and an underground garage that can park more than 3,000 vehicles. Langan is also providing site and civil engineering, and transportation/parking engineering. Langan will earn $920,000. Construction on the tower, located in the city ofJeddah, will begin this year.

Michael Paquette, project engineer for Langan, said he is based out of theBethlehemoffice, but has found himself getting more involved with overseas projects.

"I traveled to the site and spent one month kicking off the field investigation," said Paquette, who work on the project in May of 2011. "I also studied the results and assisted in the foundation design. I'm actually involved in quite a few projects overseas."

Saudi Arabiahas similarities to theLehighValley.

"We're dealing with a very unique geology that's similar to a lot of the rocks we have in theLehighValley," said Paquette. "InSaudi Arabia, they also have limestone."

While the country has a different type of limestone, Paquette said he was able to take the knowledge he learned inBethlehemand apply it to theKingdomTowerproject. He also took into account elements of the country's environment and culture.

He said the civil engineering challenge for the tower site involved stormwater management. According to Langan, the stormwater management plan usedU.S.standards for water quality improvement prior to discharge.

For the traffic and parking planning portion, a major challenge involved incorporating a vehicular security screening station into the internal road network. Langan said it also consulted on the internal circulation of the parking structures.

"KingdomToweris actually the centerpiece of a town the Saudis would like to build," said Rosemarie Williams, business development manager for Langan. The tower will have offices, apartments and some restaurants.

"The overseas projects are definitely a growing piece of the business," said Williams.

Langan is also doing some U.S. Embassy engineering work inIndia, and previously did work inPanama, said Jason Engelhardt, senior associate at Langan.

The same corporate culture found inBethlehemis going into that Saudi project, Williams said.

In addition to the Saudi project, Williams said Langan is involved in numerous projects throughout the Lehigh Valley, including geotechnical work for the proposed hockey arena project in Downtown Allentown; geotechnical and natural resources work for the proposed Route 33 Chrin interchange in Palmer Township; and engineering work for the Bottom Dollar Food which recently opened off Stefko Boulevard in Bethlehem.

For the Bottom Dollar project, Langan helped transform a site that previously housed an abandoned industrial building, said Engelhardt

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Old July 11th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #3922
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I like the kingdom tower because it's very tall and elegant!
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:53 PM   #3923
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I like the kingdom tower because it's very tall and elegant!
of course it is,it is one of the most beautiful hyper-talls ive ever seen
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Old July 11th, 2012, 11:31 PM   #3924
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^ well only one hyper tall exists, so...
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Old July 11th, 2012, 11:54 PM   #3925
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^ well only one hyper tall exists, so...
He probably meant designs from other proposed/visionary projects and not Completed Towers.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 12:10 AM   #3926
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and the most realistic new tallest building we have in the stall.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 03:01 AM   #3927
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Jeddah is slowly becoming the new Dubai, but with classier and less tacky towers! Congrats.

(Diamond tower is an exception.)
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He probably meant designs from other proposed/visionary projects and not Completed Towers.
that is exactly what i meant
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Ah of course my mistake
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langan will earn only 920 000 dollars for the construction of this beast ,this dont sound right ? why so cheap?
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Have you read the article? Langan only help designing foundation.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 03:09 PM   #3934
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Jeddah is slowly becoming the new Dubai ...
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Old July 16th, 2012, 03:24 PM   #3935
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It's as I thought they simply wait for the final foundation design from Langan (www.langan.com) and as soon as they will get it foundation works begin.

This is what our respected jeddah insider Rody69 told me in one of the saudi threads:




Here an article about the langan involvement:

Bethlehem engineering firm working on $1.2B Saudi tower
By Brian Pedersen May 21. 2012 8:00AM

A Bethlehemfirm has been hired to help build a 3,000-feet tall tower inSaudi Arabia.
Langan Engineering of Bethlehem is working on a proposal for Kingdom Tower, a skyscraping structure to be built in Saudi Arabia. The first phase of the Kingdom City project comprises the tower that will rise more than 3,000 feet, a 65,000-square-meter retail mall and an underground garage designed to park over 3,000 vehicles. Construction work on the $1.2 billion project is slated to begin this year.


Langan Engineering is working with Kingdom Holding Co. as the geotechnical engineer for the monstrous Kingdom Tower, a $1.2 billion structure that will rise above the oil-rich Middle Eastern nation.

The first phase of the project includes the tower, a nearly 700,000-square-foot retail mall, and an underground garage that can park more than 3,000 vehicles. Langan is also providing site and civil engineering, and transportation/parking engineering. Langan will earn $920,000. Construction on the tower, located in the city ofJeddah, will begin this year.

Michael Paquette, project engineer for Langan, said he is based out of theBethlehemoffice, but has found himself getting more involved with overseas projects.

"I traveled to the site and spent one month kicking off the field investigation," said Paquette, who work on the project in May of 2011. "I also studied the results and assisted in the foundation design. I'm actually involved in quite a few projects overseas."

Saudi Arabiahas similarities to theLehighValley.

"We're dealing with a very unique geology that's similar to a lot of the rocks we have in theLehighValley," said Paquette. "InSaudi Arabia, they also have limestone."

While the country has a different type of limestone, Paquette said he was able to take the knowledge he learned inBethlehemand apply it to theKingdomTowerproject. He also took into account elements of the country's environment and culture.

He said the civil engineering challenge for the tower site involved stormwater management. According to Langan, the stormwater management plan usedU.S.standards for water quality improvement prior to discharge.

For the traffic and parking planning portion, a major challenge involved incorporating a vehicular security screening station into the internal road network. Langan said it also consulted on the internal circulation of the parking structures.

"KingdomToweris actually the centerpiece of a town the Saudis would like to build," said Rosemarie Williams, business development manager for Langan. The tower will have offices, apartments and some restaurants.

"The overseas projects are definitely a growing piece of the business," said Williams.

Langan is also doing some U.S. Embassy engineering work inIndia, and previously did work inPanama, said Jason Engelhardt, senior associate at Langan.

The same corporate culture found inBethlehemis going into that Saudi project, Williams said.

In addition to the Saudi project, Williams said Langan is involved in numerous projects throughout the Lehigh Valley, including geotechnical work for the proposed hockey arena project in Downtown Allentown; geotechnical and natural resources work for the proposed Route 33 Chrin interchange in Palmer Township; and engineering work for the Bottom Dollar Food which recently opened off Stefko Boulevard in Bethlehem.

For the Bottom Dollar project, Langan helped transform a site that previously housed an abandoned industrial building, said Engelhardt

source: www.lvb.com
wow im impressed, i live in bethlehem..i thought i lived in the middle of no where
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Old July 18th, 2012, 05:11 AM   #3936
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It's as I thought they simply wait for the final foundation design from Langan (www.langan.com) and as soon as they will get it foundation works begin.

This is what our respected jeddah insider Rody69 told me in one of the saudi threads:




Here an article about the langan involvement:

Bethlehem engineering firm working on $1.2B Saudi tower

By Brian Pedersen May 21. 2012 8:00AM

A Bethlehemfirm has been hired to help build a 3,000-feet tall tower inSaudi Arabia.
Langan Engineering of Bethlehem is working on a proposal for Kingdom Tower, a skyscraping structure to be built in Saudi Arabia. The first phase of the Kingdom City project comprises the tower that will rise more than 3,000 feet, a 65,000-square-meter retail mall and an underground garage designed to park over 3,000 vehicles. Construction work on the $1.2 billion project is slated to begin this year.



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that is all we seem to hear with this project is that construction will start............
according to other posts in this thread and evidential photo's that claim construction has already started, yet again all we here from "official" sources is Construction work on the $1.2 billion project is slated to begin this year. then at the end of the year we will hear "construction will start this year......."
For mine this will never happen
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Old July 20th, 2012, 07:22 AM   #3937
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no no no no > > official is official
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Old July 20th, 2012, 01:02 PM   #3938
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no no no no > > official is official
official what? nothing is "official' until the actually start something!
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Old July 21st, 2012, 12:08 PM   #3940
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official what? nothing is "official' until the actually start something!
not even then, it is official when it is completed, we saw nakheel tower starting construction and never being above ground
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