DVO | Davao-Francisco Bangoy International Airport

[Sinjin P.]

Originally Posted by davaob4now

kasi kinalimutan na ng CAAP..lol

and from what ive heard dvo isnt the fourth hub of cebpac anymore, its ilo now.

The press releases were corrected, ILO is CEB's 5th hub.

[cemby]

Originally Posted by Sinjin P.

The press releases were corrected, ILO is CEB's 5th hub.

Cebu Pacific Hubs
1. NAIA
2. Cebu
3. Clark
4. Davao
5. Iloilo

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by cemby

Yup... Wonder of wonders why Tiger have low load factor. Marketing was the problem talaga with regards to Tiger and Cebu Pacific. Also take into account the timings (for Cebu pacific), the travel agencies in Davao that did not make full use of the marketing (their strategies are very old I guess) and the level of awareness of the general population na puwede pala lumipad from Davao direct to HKG or SiN. Also, notice that the Davao region has a very low number of OFWs being deployed compared to other places.

Although Davao has a burgeoning Middle class, most of our middle class people tend to be OK with just Manila as their jump off. Being mostly migrants also, there is this "culture" in some of the people in the city to pass by Manila or Cebu to meet up with relatives. (Ilang bases ko na rin narinig yan sa mga kilala ko when I always say, why pass by Manila when you can go to HKG/SIN direct). this part, other people in other cities do not understand.

If the DOT XI and the different tourism offices in the different LGU's push for increasing the level of awareness of using DVO as a jump off point, siguro, tataas din ang load factor ng mga airlines.

in my past international flights, i always did not pass by manila. sobrang gulo dun. id rather connect using changi. no hasstle.

but when i go to the us, i have no choice but to pass throug manila.

[davaob4now]

Originally Posted by Sinjin P.

The press releases were corrected, ILO is CEB's 5th hub.

ah thanks

Originally Posted by Nze_Mio.GT

it still is, hubs doesn't have to be having international flights.

aw...hehe sorry was just basing the wrong but corrected article

[arianespace]

Originally Posted by cemby

Cebu Pacific Hubs
1. NAIA
2. Cebu
3. Clark
4. Davao
5. Iloilo

I think this is wrong.

The correct order would be
MNL, CEB, DVO,ZAM, CRK, CGY, ILO.


I'll tell why if you can disprove me.

[arianespace]

Originally Posted by cemby

Yup... Wonder of wonders why Tiger have low load factor. Marketing was the problem talaga with regards to Tiger and Cebu Pacific. Also take into account the timings (for Cebu pacific), the travel agencies in Davao that did not make full use of the marketing (their strategies are very old I guess) and the level of awareness of the general population na puwede pala lumipad from Davao direct to HKG or SiN. Also, notice that the Davao region has a very low number of OFWs being deployed compared to other places.

Although Davao has a burgeoning Middle class, most of our middle class people tend to be OK with just Manila as their jump off. Being mostly migrants also, there is this "culture" in some of the people in the city to pass by Manila or Cebu to meet up with relatives. (Ilang bases ko na rin narinig yan sa mga kilala ko when I always say, why pass by Manila when you can go to HKG/SIN direct). this part, other people in other cities do not understand.

If the DOT XI and the different tourism offices in the different LGU's push for increasing the level of awareness of using DVO as a jump off point, siguro, tataas din ang load factor ng mga airlines.

Interesting observation because PX also have that in mind. And they were not alone. MAS also have the same thing. Even 5J dropped the idea sooner than later.

Is this a culture thing, or a mental attitude?

[Sinjin P.]

Originally Posted by arianespace

I think this is wrong.

The correct order would be
MNL, CEB, DVO,ZAM, CRK, CGY, ILO.


I'll tell why if you can disprove me.

Cebu Pacific officially has 5 hubs:
1. Manila
2. Cebu
3. Clark
4. Davao
5. Iloilo

Davao (2008) became a hub before Clark (2010) but ever since CEB discontinued int'l flights from Davao, all press releases now follow the order MNL-CEB-CRK-DVO. And now, ILO.

"The maiden flights out of Iloilo will make the city Cebu Pacific's fifth hub after Manila, Cebu, Clark and Davao." - http://www.interaksyon.com/article/3...ub-by-november

[davaob4now]

Originally Posted by Sinjin P.

Cebu Pacific officially has 5 hubs:
1. Manila
2. Cebu
3. Clark
4. Davao
5. Iloilo

Davao (2008) became a hub before Clark (2010) but ever since CEB discontinued int'l flights from Davao, all press releases now follow the order MNL-CEB-CRK-DVO. And now, ILO.

"The maiden flights out of Iloilo will make the city Cebu Pacific's fifth hub after Manila, Cebu, Clark and Davao." - http://www.interaksyon.com/article/3...ub-by-november

is that the reason why DVO became 4th instead of 3rd? if yes, why DVO didnt become 5th since ILO has now intl flights?

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by arianespace

I think this is wrong.

The correct order would be
MNL, CEB, DVO,ZAM, CRK, CGY, ILO.


I'll tell why if you can disprove me.

Originally Posted by Sinjin P.

Cebu Pacific officially has 5 hubs:
1. Manila
2. Cebu
3. Clark
4. Davao
5. Iloilo

Davao (2008) became a hub before Clark (2010) but ever since CEB discontinued int'l flights from Davao, all press releases now follow the order MNL-CEB-CRK-DVO. And now, ILO.

"The maiden flights out of Iloilo will make the city Cebu Pacific's fifth hub after Manila, Cebu, Clark and Davao." - http://www.interaksyon.com/article/3...ub-by-november

Originally Posted by davaob4now

is that the reason why DVO became 4th instead of 3rd? if yes, why DVO didnt become 5th since ILO has now intl flights?

i guess the ranking is not because of the international flights that originate from the hubs. i guess its because of the number of flights, domestic and international, that originate from the hubs. is this right?

5J's flights to and from davao are as follows. manila, cebu, cdo, zamboanga, iloilo kalibo (aug 2), puerto princessa (aug 2).

[bOrN2BwILd]

ilo - manila, cebu, davao, cagayan, gen san, pps, hkg and sin so they have 8 flights mas marami kesa sa davao

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by bOrN2BwILd

ilo - manila, cebu, davao, cagayan, gen san, pps, hkg and sin so they have 8 flights mas marami kesa sa davao

its not the number of flight per se. its the number of times the flights leave and arrive here in davao on a daily basis.

MNL-DVO-MNL 8x per day
CEB-DVO-CEB 4X per day
CDO-DVO-CDO 4X per week
DVO-ILO-DVO once daily
DVO-ZAM-DVO once daily
DVO-PPS-DVO 4x per week (Aug1)
DVO-KLO-DVO 4x per week (Aug 1)

ano ba sa ILO CRK at CDO?

[cemby]

Originally Posted by Sinjin P.

Cebu Pacific officially has 5 hubs:
1. Manila
2. Cebu
3. Clark
4. Davao
5. Iloilo

Davao (2008) became a hub before Clark (2010) but ever since CEB discontinued int'l flights from Davao, all press releases now follow the order MNL-CEB-CRK-DVO. And now, ILO.

"The maiden flights out of Iloilo will make the city Cebu Pacific's fifth hub after Manila, Cebu, Clark and Davao." - http://www.interaksyon.com/article/3...ub-by-november

It is just a matter of press release. I do not think this ranking thing has any merit.

but historically, Clark flights were supposed to commence before Davao. Yun lang nga, hindi pa kasi dumating ang mga eroplano nila so that they can base in Clark. CEB then had their sights in Clark to compete with AirAsia. Hindi naman din kasi kaya ng 5J gawing MNL-CEB-CRK then to an international destination since that flight pattern will disrupt operations.

Davao then had the option of getting a plane from either CEB or Manila to go to an international destination kaya nauna ang Davao.... (from my good pilot friend who used to be the station manager of DVO)

[Gcorneja]

Originally Posted by xzibit31

its not the number of flight per se. its the number of times the flights leave and arrive here in davao on a daily basis.

MNL-DVO-MNL 8x per day
CEB-DVO-CEB 4X per day
CDO-DVO-CDO 4X per week
DVO-ILO-DVO once daily
DVO-ZAM-DVO once daily
DVO-PPS-DVO 4x per week (Aug1)
DVO-KLO-DVO 4x per week (Aug 1)

ano ba sa ILO CRK at CDO?

ILO

PAL
ILO -Manila 4x daily

ZesT Air
ILO - Manila 2x daily

Air Phil
ILO -Manila 3-4x daily
ILO - GES MWF
ILO - CEB 2x daily

SeAir
ILO - Manila daily (?)

MidSea Express
ILO -PPS (?)

Cebu Pacific
ILO - MNL 6x daily (soon 7x daily)
ILO - CEB 17x weekly (3x during MWF, 2x for the rest)
ILO - DVO 1x daily
ILO - CGY 3x weekly
ILO - GES 4x weekly
ILO - PPS 3x weekly
ILO - SIN 2x weekly
ILO - HKG 2x weekly

[cemby]

Originally Posted by Gcorneja

ILO

PAL
ILO -Manila 4x daily

ZesT Air
ILO - Manila 2x daily

Air Phil
ILO -Manila 3-4x daily
ILO - GES MWF
ILO - CEB 2x daily

SeAir
ILO - Manila daily (?)

MidSea Express
ILO -PPS (?)

Cebu Pacific
ILO - MNL 6x daily (soon 7x daily)
ILO - CEB 17x weekly (3x during MWF, 2x for the rest)
ILO - DVO 1x daily
ILO - CGY 3x weekly
ILO - GES 4x weekly
ILO - PPS 3x weekly
ILO - SIN 2x weekly
ILO - HKG 2x weekly

He (xzibit31) was actually referring to 5J flights only..not the whole airline industry...

[Gcorneja]

Originally Posted by cemby

He (xzibit31) was actually referring to 5J flights only..not the whole airline industry...

Ok ok. Just to be more detailed.

[arianespace]

Originally Posted by xzibit31

its not the number of flight per se. its the number of times the flights leave and arrive here in davao on a daily basis.

MNL-DVO-MNL 8x per day
CEB-DVO-CEB 4X per day
CDO-DVO-CDO 4X per week
DVO-ILO-DVO once daily
DVO-ZAM-DVO once daily
DVO-PPS-DVO 4x per week (Aug1)
DVO-KLO-DVO 4x per week (Aug 1)

This is self explanatory why it is called a hub. historically for the airline, it was stated in that order i previously mentioned from the era of DC-9. It is immaterial whether it flies domestic or international. What matter is the origin.

[cemby]

Originally Posted by arianespace

This is self explanatory why it is called a hub. historically for the airline, it was stated in that order i previously mentioned from the era of DC-9. It is immaterial whether it flies domestic or international. What matter is the origin.

hey arianespace, does the gov't have plans on making improvements at the Davao international airport?

[arianespace]

Meron. Abangan nyo...

[cemby]

Originally Posted by arianespace

Meron. Abangan nyo...

hahaha...spill the beans!

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by cemby

hey arianespace, does the gov't have plans on making improvements at the Davao international airport?

Originally Posted by arianespace

Meron. Abangan nyo...

yeah..like painting the roof again. lols