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KLStorey · July 5th, 2012, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but as Skyhouse is listed at 357' (seems tall for 23 stories), and as Atlanta is getting a carbon-copy, I asked Atlanta forumers on SSP whether their Skyhouse appeared to be that tall, seeing as how it's nearly topped-out.

Answer: emphatically no.

Is it LEED? Isn't about 15' per floor normal for LEED? If so it would come in at 345', then those towers and arched roof on the top and 357' wouldn't be far off, but yeah it does seem awkwardly tall.

Sam Gibbons in Tampa is 375' with 17 floors so while rare it's still within the realm of possibilities.

jzquince69 · July 5th, 2012, 01:04 PM

well, Dynetech is around 360' range at 30 stories, but the first 9 stories are short ceiling garage levels and only 6 or so levels are office, and only the top two penthouse/multifunction levels are taller than the remaining 12+ residential levels with shorter ceilings. Add in the crest and you get the height.

With as little as 13' per floor plate, it reaches 300'. add in the first two levels which will be much taller than the rest, and a crest...yeah, I agree, it will be 350'+

SkyDiveJunkee · July 5th, 2012, 04:47 PM

MPB for Skyhouse including renderings:

http://www.cityoforlando.net/plannin...2012-00007.pdf

Dale · July 5th, 2012, 04:54 PM

It does say 347'. But I have the gnawing suspicion that that is based on sea level. Orlando is 106' above sea level on average. If based on that, I would imagine a building height of around 240-250 which is more consistent with 23-story residential.

Bear in mind that simms3 redux in Atlanta says no way theirs is 347'.

jzquince69 · July 6th, 2012, 09:06 PM

not to change the subject, but, not sure if anyone has been paying attention, but the Fed is renovating the old Fed Cthse and here's what they are doing:

1. renovating old Fed Cthse
2. building a new elevator shaft on SW wall along with enclosure connecting the old bldg to the new Fed Cthse which is nearby; looks like its a new entry pavilion;
3. building out the plaza/park just west of the old bldg and north of the new bldg. there's a pretty big sculpture there right now.

they are just chugging right along...

Here is a link to the sculpture:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-gsa-sculpture

KLStorey · July 6th, 2012, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzquince69

not to change the subject, but, not sure if anyone has been paying attention, but the Fed is renovating the old Fed Cthse and here's what they are doing:

1. renovating old Fed Cthse
2. building a new elevator shaft on SW wall along with enclosure connecting the old bldg to the new Fed Cthse which is nearby; looks like its a new entry pavilion;
3. building out the plaza/park just west of the old bldg and north of the new bldg. there's a pretty big sculpture there right now.

they are just chugging right along...

Here is a link to the sculpture:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-gsa-sculpture

I talked in some detail about the new sculpture and included some pictures of it in my Art around Town post back on June 6th.

http://orlandonarrative.blogspot.com...ound-town.html

jzquince69 · July 6th, 2012, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale

It does say 347'. But I have the gnawing suspicion that that is based on sea level. Orlando is 106' above sea level on average. If based on that, I would imagine a building height of around 240-250 which is more consistent with 23-story residential.

Bear in mind that simms3 redux in Atlanta says no way theirs is 347'.

I looked on the .pdf and it looks like the length of the bldg is perhaps 181' if I read the posted blueprint right; and when looking at the side elevation, I think you are spot on regarding the height.

Dale · July 8th, 2012, 05:47 PM

I see that the NW and NE corners of Alafaya@University is springing to life.

SW is still the ugliest corner though. My wife said that they're looking at an extensive gas cleanup.

jzquince69 · July 10th, 2012, 08:28 PM

I went to the groundbreaking ceremony for Aloft this am; spoke to a gentleman from GDC; looks like they will be breaking ground on their project in Uptown around September. By that time, a majority of the exterior of Steelhouse should be complete, which would be only two blocks away.

Driving up Magnolia at Colonial, Steelhouse is very visible and fills a HUGE visual gap when looking west. Driving east on I-4, same effect. For a project that's not glamorous or not well liked by many because of its lack of height, it does a rather large visual effect on the neighborhood.

No movement of the Cambria Suites, however...

Dale · July 10th, 2012, 08:31 PM

Quick question on I-4: as I understand it, the just passed transportation bill lifted the ban on I-4 toll lanes ... but didn't actually appropriate any money ?

SkyDiveJunkee · July 11th, 2012, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzquince69

I went to the groundbreaking ceremony for Aloft this am; spoke to a gentleman from GDC; looks like they will be breaking ground on their project in Uptown around September. By that time, a majority of the exterior of Steelhouse should be complete, which would be only two blocks away.

Driving up Magnolia at Colonial, Steelhouse is very visible and fills a HUGE visual gap when looking west. Driving east on I-4, same effect. For a project that's not glamorous or not well liked by many because of its lack of height, it does a rather large visual effect on the neighborhood.

No movement of the Cambria Suites, however...

Thanks for the detective work. GDC has been holding onto that Uptown property for years, seemingly while other projects have broken ground around them.

jzquince69 · July 17th, 2012, 12:42 AM

Not sure where this would go, but the Estates at Millenia 297 unit project next to Bloomies and Ikea is the first phase of a two phase 700 unit residential project. The developer's website said the project should be completed by mid-2013, which leads me to believe that phase two might go up pretty soon, although I can't find anything stating when they will break ground on phase two.

Dale · July 18th, 2012, 03:19 AM

Austin forumers on SSP are reporting that their Skyhouse will be 264'.

redstar25 · July 27th, 2012, 04:32 PM

DPAC Progress

ThatFloridaDude · July 30th, 2012, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redstar25

DPAC Progress

Structure makes it seem as though it's going to be massive.

SkyDiveJunkee · July 30th, 2012, 04:39 PM

No doubt about it, this is going to be a blockbuster. I'm especially interested in the private development that will flank to plaza area.

jzquince69 · August 6th, 2012, 10:40 PM

those are great photos. I drive by there daily. I agree, this will end up being a grand project.

Dale · August 7th, 2012, 05:38 PM

According to Yahoo News Orlando is the "Emptiest City In America" for its nation-high 22% rental vacancy rate. What I don't get is, with all this overhang, why there is talk of skyrocketing rental rates.

jzquince69 · August 10th, 2012, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale

According to Yahoo News Orlando is the "Emptiest City In America" for its nation-high 22% rental vacancy rate. What I don't get is, with all this overhang, why there is talk of skyrocketing rental rates.

I think its 18.8% now. In the Top 10, you also have Tampa, Atlanta, Houston, Vegas (among others). Its not clear if they're talking about metro vs city; in the Tampa example, they show a pict of the St. Pete skyline. And, they don't distinguish between submarkets either.

Dale · August 10th, 2012, 05:44 PM

Is Cambria Suites not happening ?

Is Skyhouse going to happen ?

Is the Pizutti block going to happen ?

Drove through downtown today and, other than the PAC, it seemed q-u-i-e-t.

July 6th, 2012, 09:06 PM	#845
jzquince69 jimmy Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: orlando Posts: 2,480 Likes (Received): 8	not to change the subject, but, not sure if anyone has been paying attention, but the Fed is renovating the old Fed Cthse and here's what they are doing: 1. renovating old Fed Cthse 2. building a new elevator shaft on SW wall along with enclosure connecting the old bldg to the new Fed Cthse which is nearby; looks like its a new entry pavilion; 3. building out the plaza/park just west of the old bldg and north of the new bldg. there's a pretty big sculpture there right now. they are just chugging right along... Here is a link to the sculpture: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-gsa-sculpture Last edited by jzquince69; July 6th, 2012 at 10:09 PM.

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July 5th, 2012, 01:04 PM	#842
jzquince69 jimmy Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: orlando Posts: 2,480 Likes (Received): 8	well, Dynetech is around 360' range at 30 stories, but the first 9 stories are short ceiling garage levels and only 6 or so levels are office, and only the top two penthouse/multifunction levels are taller than the remaining 12+ residential levels with shorter ceilings. Add in the crest and you get the height. With as little as 13' per floor plate, it reaches 300'. add in the first two levels which will be much taller than the rest, and a crest...yeah, I agree, it will be 350'+

July 5th, 2012, 04:47 PM	#843
SkyDiveJunkee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,493 Likes (Received): 10	MPB for Skyhouse including renderings: http://www.cityoforlando.net/plannin...2012-00007.pdf

July 5th, 2012, 04:54 PM	#844
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 7,731 Likes (Received): 25	It does say 347'. But I have the gnawing suspicion that that is based on sea level. Orlando is 106' above sea level on average. If based on that, I would imagine a building height of around 240-250 which is more consistent with 23-story residential. Bear in mind that simms3 redux in Atlanta says no way theirs is 347'.

July 8th, 2012, 05:47 PM	#848
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 7,731 Likes (Received): 25	I see that the NW and NE corners of Alafaya@University is springing to life. SW is still the ugliest corner though. My wife said that they're looking at an extensive gas cleanup.

July 10th, 2012, 08:28 PM	#849
jzquince69 jimmy Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: orlando Posts: 2,480 Likes (Received): 8	I went to the groundbreaking ceremony for Aloft this am; spoke to a gentleman from GDC; looks like they will be breaking ground on their project in Uptown around September. By that time, a majority of the exterior of Steelhouse should be complete, which would be only two blocks away. Driving up Magnolia at Colonial, Steelhouse is very visible and fills a HUGE visual gap when looking west. Driving east on I-4, same effect. For a project that's not glamorous or not well liked by many because of its lack of height, it does a rather large visual effect on the neighborhood. No movement of the Cambria Suites, however...

July 10th, 2012, 08:31 PM	#850
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 7,731 Likes (Received): 25	Quick question on I-4: as I understand it, the just passed transportation bill lifted the ban on I-4 toll lanes ... but didn't actually appropriate any money ?

July 17th, 2012, 12:42 AM	#852
jzquince69 jimmy Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: orlando Posts: 2,480 Likes (Received): 8	Not sure where this would go, but the Estates at Millenia 297 unit project next to Bloomies and Ikea is the first phase of a two phase 700 unit residential project. The developer's website said the project should be completed by mid-2013, which leads me to believe that phase two might go up pretty soon, although I can't find anything stating when they will break ground on phase two.

July 18th, 2012, 03:19 AM	#853
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 7,731 Likes (Received): 25	Austin forumers on SSP are reporting that their Skyhouse will be 264'.

July 27th, 2012, 04:32 PM	#854
redstar25 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Orlando Posts: 44 Likes (Received): 0	DPAC Progress

July 30th, 2012, 04:39 PM	#856
SkyDiveJunkee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,493 Likes (Received): 10	No doubt about it, this is going to be a blockbuster. I'm especially interested in the private development that will flank to plaza area.

August 6th, 2012, 10:40 PM	#857
jzquince69 jimmy Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: orlando Posts: 2,480 Likes (Received): 8	those are great photos. I drive by there daily. I agree, this will end up being a grand project.

August 7th, 2012, 05:38 PM	#858
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 7,731 Likes (Received): 25	According to Yahoo News Orlando is the "Emptiest City In America" for its nation-high 22% rental vacancy rate. What I don't get is, with all this overhang, why there is talk of skyrocketing rental rates.

August 10th, 2012, 05:44 PM	#860
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 7,731 Likes (Received): 25	Is Cambria Suites not happening ? Is Skyhouse going to happen ? Is the Pizutti block going to happen ? Drove through downtown today and, other than the PAC, it seemed q-u-i-e-t.