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Old July 19th, 2012, 02:09 PM   #541
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146m at a cost of $1b. Absolutely pathetic, the site deserves at least 250m or more, if only to have a building worthy of the engineering costs.
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Old July 19th, 2012, 10:07 PM   #542
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Remember this:

1. We are building a new office tower.
2. We are reconstructing a rundown dodgy shopping complex.
3. We are upgrading Wynyard Station.

The bulk of the work will be underground, and hence the cost.
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Old July 19th, 2012, 11:41 PM   #543
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Yes People have to try to see the whole situation rather than one detail and react, BUT, it is ridiculous that the tower is kept relatively short all because of a couple of hours of sunshine in the middle of the day in the middle of June.
Council seems to have NO perspective in such matters and blindly adheres to rules so that what is a well-intentioned regulation is applied with draconian strictness to the letter of the law rather than to the spirit of the law when seen in toto.
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Old July 20th, 2012, 01:39 AM   #544
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Remember this:

1. We are building a new office tower.
2. We are reconstructing a rundown dodgy shopping complex.
3. We are upgrading Wynyard Station.
I am aware. Usually a 146m tower would cost closer to $300m, the expense must be Wynyard station related. What I was getting at, is that making it significantly taller, probably would not push up the costs that much in comparison to the total $1b figure. And would get a better return for both the public and the developer. A project this expensive, should have a more worthy result for the city and skyline or it's a wasted opportunity. Another example of City of Sydney regulations screwing us out of a worthy building.
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Old July 20th, 2012, 09:22 AM   #545
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Keep in mind the engineering works that will go with too. This not going to be easy either as the station will have to remain open and temporary services and infastructure will have to be provided.
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Old July 20th, 2012, 09:45 AM   #546
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Remember this:

1. We are building a new office tower.
2. We are reconstructing a rundown dodgy shopping complex.
3. We are upgrading Wynyard Station.

The bulk of the work will be underground, and hence the cost.
Nah shoulda been taller. It's not like it's right on the rocks or Hyde park in regards to overshadowing
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 05:19 AM   #547
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yeah 200m minimum.

white= 235m
red-200m
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 08:05 AM   #548
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Woah. Is the 235m achievable within the FSR? Large floor plate tall building, is exactly what the city needs and will also look great in the skyline.
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 08:10 AM   #549
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That is amazing!
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 08:11 AM   #550
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But what about afternoon winter shadowing at 1.55pm during the month of July over Wynyard Park. It will forever be ruined!
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 08:15 AM   #551
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Woah. Is the 235m achievable within the FSR? Large floor plate tall building, is exactly what the city needs and will also look great in the skyline.
They draw on the floorspace that make up the retail complex and Wynyard Station to make the FSR.
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That is just plain cruel!
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Old August 14th, 2012, 04:21 PM   #553
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Looks like we could finally be getting some direction with City One. Now for Brookfield to find tenants...

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Brookfield’s $410 million pursuit of Thakral Holdings entered its endgame yesterday after receivers to a controlling stake in the listed trust signalled it will support the Canadian giant’s takeover offer.

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Old August 14th, 2012, 10:07 PM   #554
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And they deliver.
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Old August 15th, 2012, 12:21 AM   #555
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Looks like we could finally be getting some direction with City One. Now for Brookfield to find tenants...
mm, that could be a problem. only international towers and 200george are being done. cant see any other large office projects going up this decade?
resi is booming atm and office aint
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Old August 15th, 2012, 09:52 AM   #556
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But think of the location. What an address for a major company!!!.
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Old August 15th, 2012, 12:32 PM   #557
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The address isn't special when you consider other commercial developments slated for the city - International Towers, 200 George Street, The Ribbon, Norman Foster-designed commercial campus on Broadway. That's close to half a million sq m of arguably better located commercial space.

And major companies aren't going to break their leases early to sign up for a new tower...especially if the rents are higher and especially in a downturn.

That said, Brookfield may want to up their own involvement in the Australian market and this could be a potential new HQ for them.
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DOUBLE POST.

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Old August 15th, 2012, 01:26 PM   #559
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yeah 200m minimum.

white= 235m
red-200m
This render makes me cry. We lost the mighty Angel Place tower due to market downturn and now we will miss out on potentially mighty CityOne due to council's own stupidity! They laughed at the originally proposed height limit CityOne!
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It was the Department of Planning at the end of the day, because they could have allowed something taller, but decided for some consistency with council guidelines.
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