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146m at a cost of $1b.
Absolutely pathetic, the site deserves at least 250m or more, if only to have a building worthy of the engineering costs.
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Remember this:
1. We are building a new office tower. 2. We are reconstructing a rundown dodgy shopping complex. 3. We are upgrading Wynyard Station. The bulk of the work will be underground, and hence the cost.
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Yes
People have to try to see the whole situation rather than one detail and react, BUT, it is ridiculous that the tower is kept relatively short all because of a couple of hours of sunshine in the middle of the day in the middle of June.Council seems to have NO perspective in such matters and blindly adheres to rules so that what is a well-intentioned regulation is applied with draconian strictness to the letter of the law rather than to the spirit of the law when seen in toto. |
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I am aware. Usually a 146m tower would cost closer to $300m, the expense must be Wynyard station related. What I was getting at, is that making it significantly taller, probably would not push up the costs that much in comparison to the total $1b figure. And would get a better return for both the public and the developer. A project this expensive, should have a more worthy result for the city and skyline or it's a wasted opportunity. Another example of City of Sydney regulations screwing us out of a worthy building.
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Keep in mind the engineering works that will go with too. This not going to be easy either as the station will have to remain open and temporary services and infastructure will have to be provided.
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Nah shoulda been taller. It's not like it's right on the rocks or Hyde park in regards to overshadowing
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yeah 200m minimum.
white= 235m red-200m
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Woah. Is the 235m achievable within the FSR? Large floor plate tall building, is exactly what the city needs and will also look great in the skyline.
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That is amazing!
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They draw on the floorspace that make up the retail complex and Wynyard Station to make the FSR.
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That is just plain cruel!
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Looks like we could finally be getting some direction with City One. Now for Brookfield to find tenants...
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And they deliver.
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resi is booming atm and office aint
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But think of the location. What an address for a major company!!!.
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![]() The address isn't special when you consider other commercial developments slated for the city - International Towers, 200 George Street, The Ribbon, Norman Foster-designed commercial campus on Broadway. That's close to half a million sq m of arguably better located commercial space. And major companies aren't going to break their leases early to sign up for a new tower...especially if the rents are higher and especially in a downturn. That said, Brookfield may want to up their own involvement in the Australian market and this could be a potential new HQ for them.
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DOUBLE POST.
Website seems to be doing funny things tonight
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This render makes me cry. We lost the mighty Angel Place tower due to market downturn and now we will miss out on potentially mighty CityOne due to council's own stupidity! They laughed at the originally proposed height limit CityOne!
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It was the Department of Planning at the end of the day, because they could have allowed something taller, but decided for some consistency with council guidelines.
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