Sathorn Square+W Hotel, 40+30 Storey-191 M : Sathorn - Page 100

Iknow · July 29th, 2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Speed

yesterday I passed by W HOTEL in a taxi....a small army of workers was on the grounds....never seen so many workers on a construction site.....amazing....money does not seem to be a problem for this project....

Will be when they open and try to match the high cost of operating a W Hotel versus the lousy ADR's they will achieve, the smart savvy Dubai investors who own 80% of this hotel project have been trying to sell for nearly a year so far offers have been well below their costs, if anyone is looking for a distressed hotel asset this will be it very soon

KeNgKrUpS · July 29th, 2012, 09:39 PM

What exactly does ADR stand for?

The Lizzard King · July 30th, 2012, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KeNgKrUpS

What exactly does ADR stand for?

Average daily rate which is very low in Bangkok for 5star hotels, maybe the lowest in the world on avarage

Iknow · July 30th, 2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lizzard King

Average daily rate which is very low in Bangkok for 5star hotels, maybe the lowest in the world on avarage

Which is why Bangkok is the most popular destination in Asia and the airport the third busiest in the world, but despite this still oversupply of Hotel rooms particularly in the 5 star sector and even more on the way !

KeNgKrUpS · July 30th, 2012, 06:17 AM

Well I truly hope the rates at W will be "low" or "lower", AND mere SPG category "4". I'll be using it instead of the awful, over-priced St.Regis when I visit the Ritz project, which is just a stone's throw away!

Speed · July 30th, 2012, 06:27 AM

just a re-post....

old heritage mansion is part of history of Thailand and nicely compliments the modern glass skyscrapers

History of the old mansion:

1914 - The mansion was built by "Viscount/Lord" Sathorn ("Luang" Jitjamnongwanich) as his residence

1927 - The mansion became the 'Hotel Royal' until around World War II

1948-99 - after WW II, mansion leased as the Soviet, then Russian Embassy

2005 - heritage site included in Sathorn Sq project (Fine Arts Dept of Thailand involved in restoration)

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Originally Posted by Chad

image hosted on flickr

new structure addition being added at the back...now with orange roof structure

Speed · July 30th, 2012, 06:31 AM

I passed by and they seem to have finished all of the glass cladding and exterior of the W HOTEL...

probably now working on interior for the soft opening this December???

thanks bigNavySeal

hope they eventually soft light up that gigantic 'W"

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Originally Posted by bigNavySeal

image hosted on flickr

Speed · July 30th, 2012, 03:06 PM

STARWOOD HOTEL CATEGORIES IN THAILAND (from an earlier post)

Category 7 =
W Retreat Koh Samui (at peak season dates)

Category 6 =
Naka Resort Phuket

Category 5 =
The St Regis Bangkok

Category 4 =
Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit, Bangkok

Le Méridien Koh Samui Resort & Spa

Sheraton Pattaya Resort

Le Méridien Phuket Beach Resort

The Westin Siray Bay Resort & Spa, Phuket

Category 3 =
The Westin Grande Sukhumvit, Bangkok

Royal Orchid Sheraton Hotel & Towers

Plaza Athénée Bangkok, A Royal Méridien Hotel

Le Méridien Bangkok

Sheraton Hua Hin Resort & Spa

Le Méridien Khao Lak Beach & Spa Resort

Sheraton Krabi Beach Resort

Category 2 =
Aloft Bangkok - Sukhumvit 11

Four Points by Sheraton Bangkok, Sukhumvit 15

Le Méridien Chiang Mai

Le Méridien Chiang Rai Resort, Thailand

Category 1 = NONE

I think W Bangkok will be a category 3 or 4 .......W Seoul is 5 and W Taipei is 4

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefer...CategoryCode=7

KeNgKrUpS · July 31st, 2012, 02:16 AM

Unfortunately, St.Regis was "upgraded" to Category 6 - when it should rather be downgraded to 4 !!!

I doubt W will get "3" (more like 4) - I would, however, be very happy if it does!

Speed · July 31st, 2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KeNgKrUpS

Unfortunately, St.Regis was "upgraded" to Category 6 - when it should rather be downgraded to 4 !!!

I doubt W will get "3" (more like 4) - I would, however, be very happy if it does!

I think St Regis Bangkok should be a "5" (the very nice ones in Mexico City and Beijing are "5"s), but OK, St Regis Singapore is a "6"

in category "3", Plaza Athénée and Le Méridien are very nice...I was expecting W Hotel Bangkok to be on par with them....but if its a "4" that is OK....(on par with Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit)

KeNgKrUpS · July 31st, 2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Speed

I think St Regis Bangkok should be a "5" (the very nice ones in Mexico City and Beijing are "5"s), but OK, St Regis Singapore is a "6"

in category "3", Plaza Athénée and Le Méridien are very nice...I was expecting W Hotel Bangkok to be on par with them....but if its a "4" that is OK....(on par with Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit)

You are right, St.Regis "should" be at least a 5 (6 for the more luxurious ones). However, the St.Regis BKK does NOT live up to the St.Regis reputation and standards (in my humble opinion). I stayed there 3 times (as a SPG Platinum member) and was very disappointed with all 3 stays.

Plaza Athénée deserves "3" and no more. The rooms are tired and very out-dated. The corner suite I got was spacious but the decor was oh so 80s-Chinese-gaudy-ish feel. On the other hand, Le Méridien BKK is actually very nice, it is just in the WRONG location

diver90 · July 31st, 2012, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

I think St Regis Bangkok should be a "5" (the very nice ones in Mexico City and Beijing are "5"s), but OK, St Regis Singapore is a "6"

in category "3", Plaza Athénée and Le Méridien are very nice...I was expecting W Hotel Bangkok to be on par with them....but if its a "4" that is OK....(on par with Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit)

IMHO The Category is more about the rack rates. Bangkok market is very high competition. Only few hotels can ask for higher rate (200$ or more). The average roomrate for bangkok 5-star is $150-$200 Cat4, St. Regis Bagkok is above $200 (Cat5). Samui is different market.

Oasis-Bangkok · August 10th, 2012, 03:27 PM

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/seua_ya...n/photostream/

Oasis-Bangkok · August 14th, 2012, 12:47 AM

Oasis-Bangkok · August 16th, 2012, 09:05 AM

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/-ajm/77...n/photostream/

***Chad*** · August 16th, 2012, 09:18 AM

Shit, that Lysaght ending-detail on the roof makes me wanna throwup.

Speed · August 16th, 2012, 10:09 AM

omg Oasis, I luv you

Oasis-Bangkok · August 17th, 2012, 06:44 PM

image hosted on flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2c_phot...n/photostream/

bigNavySeal · August 18th, 2012, 02:17 PM

Very nice Oasis!

Speed · August 20th, 2012, 01:21 PM

they now fly the Thailand and Belgium flags on the ground in front of Sathorn Square (I imagine because the Belgium Embassy is on the 16th floor?)

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July 29th, 2012, 09:39 PM	#1982
KeNgKrUpS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hong Kong, Portland USA, Bangkok Posts: 395 Likes (Received): 10	What exactly does ADR stand for?

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KeNgKrUpS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hong Kong, Portland USA, Bangkok Posts: 395 Likes (Received): 10	Well I truly hope the rates at W will be "low" or "lower", AND mere SPG category "4". I'll be using it instead of the awful, over-priced St.Regis when I visit the Ritz project, which is just a stone's throw away!

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Speed Kenshiro "Fist,NorthStar" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bangkok/San Francisco/Los Angeles Posts: 6,363 Likes (Received): 37	STARWOOD HOTEL CATEGORIES IN THAILAND (from an earlier post) Category 7 = W Retreat Koh Samui (at peak season dates) Category 6 = Naka Resort Phuket Category 5 = The St Regis Bangkok Category 4 = Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit, Bangkok Le Méridien Koh Samui Resort & Spa Sheraton Pattaya Resort Le Méridien Phuket Beach Resort The Westin Siray Bay Resort & Spa, Phuket Category 3 = The Westin Grande Sukhumvit, Bangkok Royal Orchid Sheraton Hotel & Towers Plaza Athénée Bangkok, A Royal Méridien Hotel Le Méridien Bangkok Sheraton Hua Hin Resort & Spa Le Méridien Khao Lak Beach & Spa Resort Sheraton Krabi Beach Resort Category 2 = Aloft Bangkok - Sukhumvit 11 Four Points by Sheraton Bangkok, Sukhumvit 15 Le Méridien Chiang Mai Le Méridien Chiang Rai Resort, Thailand Category 1 = NONE I think W Bangkok will be a category 3 or 4 .......W Seoul is 5 and W Taipei is 4 http://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefer...CategoryCode=7

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KeNgKrUpS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hong Kong, Portland USA, Bangkok Posts: 395 Likes (Received): 10	Unfortunately, St.Regis was "upgraded" to Category 6 - when it should rather be downgraded to 4 !!! I doubt W will get "3" (more like 4) - I would, however, be very happy if it does!

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Speed Kenshiro "Fist,NorthStar" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bangkok/San Francisco/Los Angeles Posts: 6,363 Likes (Received): 37	they now fly the Thailand and Belgium flags on the ground in front of Sathorn Square (I imagine because the Belgium Embassy is on the 16th floor?)