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Old June 30th, 2012, 09:27 PM   #681
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In certain areas in DRC
diamond mining doesnt even need heavy machinery ....you'll be shocked to see how small DRC's Industrial mining is. Most of it is artisanal/small scale mining.
i will not be shocked because i have seen countless of documentaries showing Congo's mining sector and its abuses.

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DRC minerals is exported through Durban and Dar.

As for Timber, its exported through Brazza and Matata ports.
Only small amount is exported through Uganda because its produced in the district near Uganda. But most of it is produced in the western and central areas with access to the River , the to the ports at the Atlantic ports.
The country is big so the need to diversify the transport corridor.


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yeah, i know that. But what has that got to do with him keeping Congo together or how is he the bread and butter ? Seriously, how can a dictator, very much hated, very unpopular be the one to keep this country together?? He is one of the worst things to happen to this country's existance.
Because he takes in considerations from the people controlling him, he got the military under a grip which is not to strong but sufficient to keep peace in the country. he gets appeasead by a lot of foreign dignitaries and companies which want a taste in the country etc..

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Re-read your previous last paragraph. I didnt understand what you meant.
That's the first time i have heard of anything like that..... Anyways; what you witnessed must have been heavy trucks for security reasons....one can Cary $100 million worth of diamonds in a simple school backpack... But train? Lol sorry man. Austin, Russia, SA, Angola , BOtswana don't use trains. A single truck will do (for security reasons).

what i said is what i said lol... you need do do some research mate into diamond mining..
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Old June 30th, 2012, 09:37 PM   #682
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Congo already uses the Mombasa port.A railroad to lamu would make it cheaper to transport goods to the Congo at the same time increase trade.Everyone wins.
I know its used, im not saying the rail is a bad idea either. ....thing is that having a rail line of 5 -600 km where there isn't that much economical activities, make little sense to me......Congo Copper, Cobalt doesnt go through Mombasa. But Durban and DES .......unless Chinese will build a brand new rail bypassing and abandon Dar go 100s of kms north? What you guys never understood about DRC is that its not industrial up northeast. .......moreover, no serious president is going to connect there as most timber is in western side of the country.
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Old June 30th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #683
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I know its used, im not saying the rail is a bad idea either. ....thing is that having a rail line of 5 -600 km where there isn't that much economical activities, make little sense to me......Congo Copper, Cobalt doesnt go through Mombasa. But Durban and DES .......unless Chinese will build a brand new rail bypassing and abandon Dar go 100s of kms north?
Unlike our brothers we dont need Chinese or American aid.Time and time we have proved we can fund our own initiatives.

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What you guys never understood about DRC is that its not industrial up northeast. .......moreover, no serious president is going to connect there as most timber is in western side of the country.
About the rail and highways,we would be thinking of the future.Forecasts show there is potential for intra African trade,a rail line to the Congo will be a small feat in the future as governments come to terms with economic realities.
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Old June 30th, 2012, 10:57 PM   #684
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The rail would be important as a West Africa-East Africa transport link, with Nigerian and Kenyan manufactered goods going eastwards and westwards. The ability to use it to import and export to and from DRC is another important benefit.
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Old June 30th, 2012, 11:52 PM   #685
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i will not be shocked because i have seen countless of documentaries showing Congo's mining sector and its abuses.
What does abuses have to do with how to transport diamonds?

BTW; At least 85% of diamonds are far away from where the Rail is planned. That makes it at least 1,300 and 1,500 km from the border with Uganda.

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The country is big so the need to diversify the transport corridor.
Your not looking into details. But its already diversified.


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Because he takes in considerations from the people controlling him, he got the military under a grip which is not to strong but sufficient to keep peace in the country. he gets appeasead by a lot of foreign dignitaries and companies which want a taste in the country etc..
What peace???

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what i said is what i said lol... you need do do some research mate into diamond mining..
Actually, its you who needs to research on that.



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Unlike our brothers we dont need Chinese or American aid.Time and time we have proved we can fund our own initiatives.
Why bring the aid thing into this conversation?... BTW who is that American or Chinese aid receiver?

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About the rail and highways,we would be thinking of the future.Forecasts show there is potential for intra African trade,a rail line to the Congo will be a small feat in the future as governments come to terms with economic realities.
I will repeat it again.

Who will build that rail into Congo in the first place? Because the current dummy clown president we have now wont do it , even though he is pro East-Af..... His opposition wont even think about it.

Talking of Intra African trade , who isn't doing it?
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Old June 30th, 2012, 11:54 PM   #686
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The rail would be important as a West Africa-East Africa transport link, with Nigerian and Kenyan manufactered goods going eastwards and westwards. The ability to use it to import and export to and from DRC is another important benefit.
True.

However: until the obstacles are no longer existent.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 12:04 AM   #687
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True.

However: until the obstacles are no longer existent.
Political obstacles will be forgotten in time.Economic gains outweigh all.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 12:28 AM   #688
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Political obstacles will be forgotten in time.Economic gains outweigh all.
Yes, we both know that....But our situation is very complex as long the clown is still president and ill be for a while after him ... Economy wont outweigh politics as long as we still have the dummy clown president.

@ Adm. Adama.

Anyways: DRC will no longer be exporting raw diamonds, polishing companies are coming in, and gold is to be refined in the country in next couple years. It wont be long before we see timber proccessing plants in North. that being said.transit countries/Region (EAC, SADC) will have to deal with the buyers. not the seller anymore.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 03:07 PM   #689
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Africa needs connectivity from all sides, better gateways and transport systems, then and only then will the continent growth LAPSSET is only the beginning thats why its my best mega project
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Old July 30th, 2012, 01:14 AM   #690
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I just ran across this in the Tanzania thread, surprised no one posted it. If the project is realized, it'll surely be one of the best on the continent. East Africa again, looks like they're turning into Africa's energy hub.

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MoU Signing for 2100 MW Stiegler's Gorge project

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AT last a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) toward implementation of a huge Stiegler's Gorge Power Project has been signed.

The MoU of the long awaited project was reached on Thursday between the Rufiji Basin Development Authority (Rubada) and Odebrecht International, a reputable dam construction company in the world.

"I am very happy that the MoU was signed today," the Rubada Director General, Mr Aloyce Masanja said after the signing event that was witnessed by top Odebrecht staff, and officials from the government of Tanzania and Rubada's management and members of the Board of Directors.

In terms of finance, Odebrecht in collaboration with Rubada will mobilize financial resources from Brazilian sources (Brazil-Africa line of credit) and any other sources including from the government of Tanzania. According to Mr Masanja, the project financial requirements is at the tune of U.S.D 2 billion but the figure may vary depending on the technology to be used, either arch dam or gravity dam.

As part of the agreement, Rubada, as a public institution allowed to generate and supply hydroelectric power in the basin, will partner with Odebrecht, a private entity in a form of Public Private Partnership (PPP). "The project is a multipurpose by nature in the sectors of agriculture, energy, fisheries, flood control and tourism," he said.

Once completed, the project will have the potential to produce 2100 MW. The signing of the MoU allows the Brazilian company to start reviewing Feasibility Studies that was earlier done by a Norwegian company, NORConsult in 1980 on the similar project but shelved later on.

The second stage after that will be designing and doing Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) while the third stage will be commencement of construction. If all goes well it is hoped that the construction stage will start after two years from now.

On his part, the company's Business Director, Mr Fernando Soares, said it was a tremendous honour for the company to be involved in the development of a project of such an importance for the future of Tanzania.

"We are strongly committed in contributing for the increase of the country's energy capacity," he said, adding that Odebrecht has a tremendous relevant experience in developing hydro power projects all over the world, being ranked as the world's major construction company in that particular field.

He said that the company thanked Tanzanian government and the board of Rubada for their efforts to make this partnership possible. The Chairman of the RUBADA Board of Directors, Prof Raphael Mwalyosi explained the project as "dream come true." He appealed for the government and other stakeholders to continue supporting the project for the country's benefit because hydro power is the cheapest to run once it is constructed.

Odebrecht Company Limited is reputed for involvement in big and successful construction of big hydropower projects in the world. It was involved in construction of the world's second power dam found in Brazil with the capacity to produce 14,000 MW. The whole of the Rufiji Basin has the potential to produce 4,000 MW.

Brazil is reputed to have transformed her economy for the past 30 years from the low income country to a middle economy today. More than 85 per cent of the country's power comes from hydro sources. Its portfolio includes more than 58,500 MW in construction works and services in the power sector.

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Old July 30th, 2012, 08:14 AM   #691
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Its just a MOA. So many projects in Africa dont get beyond this stage. Lets see when the studies have finished and funding has been secured.

But good project anyway. Tanzania needs a LOT more energy. It produces a paltry amount now.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 12:12 PM   #692
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Best project going in Sudan

Mushaireb project


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Old October 19th, 2012, 12:43 PM   #693
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Unlike our brothers we dont need Chinese or American aid.Time and time we have proved we can fund our own initiatives.



About the rail and highways,we would be thinking of the future.Forecasts show there is potential for intra African trade,a rail line to the Congo will be a small feat in the future as governments come to terms with economic realities.
stop disgracing urself get facts here even those superhighways it is Chinese money!
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Best project going in Sudan

Mushaireb project

So 2 buildings are completed which are Al rayyan and al Bidaa and 2 U/C

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Old October 19th, 2012, 01:14 PM   #695
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stop disgracing urself get facts here even those superhighways it is Chinese money!

There is a difference between Chinese contractors and Chinese funding.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #696
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Old October 19th, 2012, 09:55 PM   #698
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Diamonds transported by Train?????


There are no plans to start searching for Copper in North-East. They would have been doing so.

Canadians develop their own infrastructures. ..... I don't think there are companies that are going to spend money in building a 500 km Rail for Timber when they have a cheap way of doing so as they have been doing.

In 10 years?? In that long, there will be a more developed infrastructure in the Western part of the country. so why spend more money going eastwards? What company will be willing to spend when they easily export now?
Butembo 21, don't waste ur energy; u r talking to people who don't know a thing about mineral business! that's empty-headedness how on earth is diamond transported via railway! never heard of that !
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Its just a MOA. So many projects in Africa dont get beyond this stage. Lets see when the studies have finished and funding has been secured.

But good project anyway. Tanzania needs a LOT more energy. It produces a paltry amount now.
where did u get this?
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Its just a MOA. So many projects in Africa dont get beyond this stage. Lets see when the studies have finished and funding has been secured.

But good project anyway. Tanzania needs a LOT more energy. It produces a paltry amount now.
BTW, Has LAPSSET gone beyond MOU? I thought not even a 1 bio. US$ has been secured out of over US$ 25 bio. needed to construct the network!

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