Chris Johnson calls for 100 storey towers in Sydney

[brianc68]

Originally Posted by Mornnb

Yes, but Australia is not quite like Germany either which has a mix of cities with influence, like Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt, Hamburg etc.
It's rather like Russia, where you have the main global city, Moscow, with an important secondary one, St Peterburgs.

I don't really agree. If you've lived in Brisbane or Perth neither Sydney or Melbourne have much influence. The 4 biggest states and their capitals are more insular than you think. Politcally, Queenslands population is approaching that of Victoria and hence the number of federal seats in each are similar. The influence of the big 2 states is diminishing over time, and will gradually be replaced by the big 4. There was an article on it in the national press recently. The balance of power and influence is shifting north and west, both economically and politically. It is a gradual change but there will be proportionally more influence for WA and QLD over time.

It's more like Canada. Traditional power cities Toronto and Montreal are seeing their influence decline slowly against growth cities like Calgary and Vancouver. It's inevitable as the % of GDP generated in the states/provinces shift.

[Cariad]

I think the term global city is thrown around too often without much explanation.

I determine the term "global city" as being the most famous, well known and gateway to Australia. I am not originally from Australia and spend a lot of time overseas visiting friends and family, so I have a lot of exposure as to what people (who have never been to Australia) think Australia is. In my experience people only know Sydney and would struggle to mention another city, they can also not name any other city landmarks, just Sydney Opera House, Bridge and I'd say the next is Ulura (still Ayers to most people outside of Australia) and Great Barrier Reef. When I am overseas meeting people, I am often plugging Melbourne, trust me, most people have never heard of it, if they have it is only because of "Neighbours" and if I ask them what can they tell me about Melbourne, they have nothing to say. I think this is a real shame, Melbourne is a great city and I love it, but at the end of the day Melbourne needs to step up their international tourism campaign and get recognised.

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

I'm not really sure how a call to arms for Sydney posters to email Brad Hazzard turned into a what-is-a-global-city frenzy

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

Originally Posted by Sky_Is_The_Limit

Bump!

Mention the article from the Daily Telegraph in your email.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1226315147834
Brad Hazzard email addresses;

wakehurst@parliament.nsw.gov.au

office@hazzard.minister.nsw.gov.au

For those who wish to email him on 100 storey towers, it is important to get these points across

1. Sydney has an estimated 2019 RENTAL SHORTFALL of almost 2,000 dwellings. This will push up both residential property and rental prices.

Note this article; http://www.propertyobserver.com.au/l.../2012060354963

2. Melbourne has the ability to DRAMATICALLY EXPAND its CBD core through continued development of Docklands, and in the longer term Fisherman's Bend. This means less pressure on commercial rents which could make Melbourne a more appealing hub for business in future.

Note this media release; http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vic...-1226302117137

3. Comment on the IMPACT Barangaroo should have on height limits to its east and south east. STRONGLY emphasise that it is foolish to have an 80m height limit to the east and south east of Barangaroo when 6 towers at Barangaroo itself will be AT LEAST double the height. Make it known that this means height restrictions should be EASED CONSIDERABLY to rebalance the skyline and provide opportunities for increased renewal, street activity and associated commercial, residential and hotel space.

Tie it in with the Council's ARCHAIC FSR restrictions that have forced reductions in height to towers such as 33 Bligh Street. Also mention the RIDICULOUS SUN ACCESS PLANES in a city that requires protection from sun for more than 6 months in the year, in a country that suffers above average skin cancer rates - people don't come to the city for sun they come to work, shop, eat and be entertained.

Height Limit Map (sun access planes identified); http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/d...ight_sht_1.pdf

FSR;
http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/d..._fsr_sht_1.pdf

4. More intensive development in the CBD will be complemented by the construction of a second harbour crossing + additional CBD stations which INCREASE CAPACITY of the underground network, as well as increased capacity through the construction of the light rail network.

5. Conclude by saying Sydney is a GLOBAL CITY and it needs to invest NOW AND TOMORROW to retain its position as one of the world's most sought after business hubs. This includes redeveloping underutilised sites for the 21st Century.

Seeing as we are on it a few months after the article was published, it probably doesn't hurt to mention Skyscrapercity just for the sake of transparency and that we are Sydney residents in favour of development, not a business aligned organisation all emailing the minster months after the article.

Bumping this to next page

[ChrisJudd83]

Originally Posted by Melb_SuperTall

Im in Russia but im still in Sydney.. Im in France yet still in Sydney.. How does that work? Ahh yes it is a global city. It reaches all parts of the globe and influences many parts of different cultures... Nawwwt. Everytime I hear the reference "Global City".. Australias ONLY global city I think holy F what an ego!

Wow your post was useful...Nawwwt. You obviously have a huge chip on your shoulder but wake up to reality mate. Whenever you mention Australia in a foreign country, the first thing that will come to most people's minds is Sydney. It is where the stock exchange is located, it is the financial hub of Australia representing us on the financial world stage, it has world reknown landmarks that everybody around the world knows of and as such is recognised as Australia's global city

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

FFS Sydneysiders rise above the banter and get on emailing!

[Tyson]

Funny how there is an opportunity to actively promote and improve the city, but the majority are happy to just slag off another city and throw the "Global City" tag around. It's that sort of attitude that will see Sydney overtaken. As is true in most aspects in life, it is much easier to get to the top than it is to stay there.

As for the "Global City" tag - it's just a political tool. Useful for the populace to demand more services or resources. Useful to the authorities as justification that there is a price for living in such a city.

[Paddo]

Originally Posted by Sky_Is_The_Limit

Bump!

Mention the article from the Daily Telegraph in your email.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1226315147834
Brad Hazzard email addresses;

wakehurst@parliament.nsw.gov.au

office@hazzard.minister.nsw.gov.au

For those who wish to email him on 100 storey towers, it is important to get these points across

1. Sydney has an estimated 2019 RENTAL SHORTFALL of almost 2,000 dwellings. This will push up both residential property and rental prices.

Note this article; http://www.propertyobserver.com.au/l.../2012060354963

2. Melbourne has the ability to DRAMATICALLY EXPAND its CBD core through continued development of Docklands, and in the longer term Fisherman's Bend. This means less pressure on commercial rents which could make Melbourne a more appealing hub for business in future.

Note this media release; http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vic...-1226302117137

3. Comment on the IMPACT Barangaroo should have on height limits to its east and south east. STRONGLY emphasise that it is foolish to have an 80m height limit to the east and south east of Barangaroo when 6 towers at Barangaroo itself will be AT LEAST double the height. Make it known that this means height restrictions should be EASED CONSIDERABLY to rebalance the skyline and provide opportunities for increased renewal, street activity and associated commercial, residential and hotel space.

Tie it in with the Council's ARCHAIC FSR restrictions that have forced reductions in height to towers such as 33 Bligh Street. Also mention the RIDICULOUS SUN ACCESS PLANES in a city that requires protection from sun for more than 6 months in the year, in a country that suffers above average skin cancer rates - people don't come to the city for sun they come to work, shop, eat and be entertained.

Height Limit Map (sun access planes identified); http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/d...ight_sht_1.pdf

FSR;
http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/d..._fsr_sht_1.pdf

4. More intensive development in the CBD will be complemented by the construction of a second harbour crossing + additional CBD stations which INCREASE CAPACITY of the underground network, as well as increased capacity through the construction of the light rail network.

5. Conclude by saying Sydney is a GLOBAL CITY and it needs to invest NOW AND TOMORROW to retain its position as one of the world's most sought after business hubs. This includes redeveloping underutilised sites for the 21st Century.

Seeing as we are on it a few months after the article was published, it probably doesn't hurt to mention Skyscrapercity just for the sake of transparency and that we are Sydney residents in favour of development, not a business aligned organisation all emailing the minster months after the article.

Done

[Avatar]

Originally Posted by brianc68

My god this Sydney vs Melbourne thing is pointless and boring. No one city dominates in Australia, unlike say Buenos Aires dominates Argentina. Australia does not have a primate city - defined as being 5+ times the size and influence of the second city.

As for the term "global city" - please define! No such definition exists. There are a number of definitions and rankings of world cities, which usually feature Sydney and Melbourne at various rankings. In fact Brisbane and Perth are considered beta world cities, while Sydney is alpha+ and Melbourne alpha-. Sydney's brand has consistently rated as the most prestigious city brand in the world, now we just need to follow through with the substance to back that up.

So calling Sydney Australias only global city is ridiculous, and incorrect.

Stop playing semantics. Regardless of any way you want to swing it, and regardless of the definition, it still leads in the areas of importance and dominates the international mindset. I like Melbourne but it simply does not punch anywhere near Sydney in global terms. Since when was Melbourne Alpha-?

Sydney does need to reinvent itself and begin emulating Hong Kong and Singapore, embracing the things it does well and build upon them. Fast-tracking roads, masses of residential, metro and business development. It's not something to bicker about as massive investment in infrastructure will provide Australia and all of us with knock-on benefits in the long term.

[Tyson]

Originally Posted by Avatar

Since when was Melbourne Alpha-?

It is according to the 2010 GaWC rankings.

[Fabian]

Originally Posted by Solopop

Yeah but I'd say Melbourne has more influence than Sydney does internally.

I'd agree. Money flows into and out of Australia through Sydney while money within Australia goes in and out of Melbourne.

[CULWULLA]

internally? is that like sydneys the stomach and melbournes the bot bot?
recently article in science mag-,after many years of research scientists have finally found the centre of the universe.

[John_Proctor]

the whole debate is holding both cities back to be honest.

both need to be concentrating more on what they have or don't have in common with Singapore, Honkers, Shangai and Tokyo (as Avatar said) than which one is better in Australia.

Both cities futures is in attracting the sorts of businesses that are currently attracted to those Asian business behemoths. Not to which one can attract the NBN headquarters, or has the best gallery in Australia or whatever.

If we focus internally then we will wither and die as major cities (global or local) and a major economy (G20 isn't bad even if noone really cares about us).

Unfortunately this is what the Dick Smith's of the world don't realise. this internal 'small australia' focus will not lead to a safer, fairer, more sustainable Australia because it will lead to a weaker, poorer, less diverse, less dynamic Australia that won't be able to respond to say the end of the mining boom or the complete closure of all manufacturing in this country, or the shift of regional financials out of Sydney to Singapore.

[Paddo]

Originally Posted by CULWULLA

internally? is that like sydneys the stomach and melbournes the bot bot?

Frank Sinatra once famously said Melbourne is the arse end of the world.

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[brianc68]

Originally Posted by Avatar

Since when was Melbourne Alpha-?

Since 2010.

[AltiusAltiusAltius]

Well said CJ, all ugly Telstra buildings should go asap, there are too many stupid bunkers in the CBD, too many eyesores... And yes, Haymarket should go highrise, Chinatown can be relocated to Mt Druitt lol

But we do spend millions to retain some of those eyesores, e.g. NSW Supreme Court Building!

[Fabian]

The Supreme Court is a different situation where pulling it down means a smaller building. We have to keep it or lose it.

[Mornnb]

Originally Posted by Fabian

The Supreme Court is a different situation where pulling it down means a smaller building. We have to keep it or lose it.

But they could have given it a new glass facade like they are with the ANZ building and Westpac Building on Martin Place. But no, the NSW government decided to leave us with the cities ugliest building.

[Fabian]

Courts are different buildings altogether. It is so hard to refurbish a building when the courts virtually have to operate as per normal.

[Avatar]

Originally Posted by Mornnb

But they could have given it a new glass facade like they are with the ANZ building and Westpac Building on Martin Place. But no, the NSW government decided to leave us with the cities ugliest building.

It's an abomination it should never have been approved. The tower will be worse than it was before work started. Lipstick on a fat pig is simply goinf to highlight how vulgar the tower is.