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Jex7844 · July 7th, 2012, 11:37 PM

And to say that it was the project I looked forward to the most...at the end of the day, I have a feeling we're all going to be disappointed...

Dale · July 8th, 2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by parsonsnose

How could you slash 50 million off the building cost and hope to end up with something better than before?

Taller! SKYSCRAPERcity.com! Use your imagination! Don't be butt-hurt!

LondonFox · July 8th, 2012, 12:27 PM

It has already had one redesign as it is.

The overlapping cladding was changed to the more conforming style. And they are saying that the architect is working on the cladding again..

So I don't expect the tower will look that different, perhaps only slightly.. but I think the cladding will be less fancy again...

You can't say in one sentence, "we want it to be more iconic than the shard" .. and at the same time turn this building into a box shape as someone posted on the last page.

Not going to happen... city planners wouldn't allow that for starters.

I remain very optimistic about this.

If they can shave some costs by simplifying the cladding some more in order for it to be built, then that is great news.

cloud32 · July 8th, 2012, 12:40 PM

I don't like the idea of 'simplifying' the cladding. By the sounds of it, 'simplifying' means 'making cheaper', and having a taller poor quality skyscraper (to me) is worse that having a still very tall good quality one. But then again, can they really expect a height increase seeming as it was reduced beforehand? Im guessing not.

Ecological · July 8th, 2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wpbutcher

This unfortunately can not have a height increase due to CAA restrictions on max crane height over London.
Unless they relax the rules a bit which is unlikely.

It's very common for a city authority and developer to work in cordination with the CAA for specialist schemes.

Birmingham is a prime example.

Ecological · July 8th, 2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jex7844

And to say that it was the project I looked forward to the most...at the end of the day, I have a feeling we're all going to be disappointed...

This was my favourite tower, but this is London we are talking about. They don't do easy or bland very well.

RobertWalpole · July 8th, 2012, 06:58 PM

Does London have restrictions like NY, which limit the amount of square meters for each plot of land?

Eric Offereins · July 8th, 2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LondonFox

Guess this one might be having a redesign then. To make it more iconic than The Shard. ??

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/m...s-7899255.html

Perhaps this one will have a height increase in exchange for a less detailed appearance?

That would be a bad choice.

cloud32 · July 8th, 2012, 09:10 PM

Couldn't agree more!

MissyC · July 11th, 2012, 07:19 PM

As long as is not going to be another pyramid or obelisque ...

SO143 · July 13th, 2012, 05:06 PM

or another magnificent tower like this!

SO143 · August 2nd, 2012, 01:56 AM

image hosted on flickr

P8010027 by Lumberjack_London, on Flickr

Jex7844 · August 2nd, 2012, 12:46 PM

What are the workers doing...?

MissyC · August 4th, 2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SO143

or another magnificent tower like this!

I like this one. I just don't think that much of pyramide shapes or curvey odd figurative stuff will add up to the skyline.

Like this one, am not sure about your taste, but I like this one.

djs83 · August 28th, 2012, 03:10 AM

I'm getting extremely frustrated with this building! Every week I keep checking for news, any progress re tenants being found! But nothing!!

If I had serious money I would build this tower In a heartbeat! fingers crossed that they don't build a awful tower for half the cost and ruin the skyline of the best city in the world! Fact!!

ElDudarinodotcom · August 28th, 2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by djs83

I'm getting extremely frustrated with this building! Every week I keep checking for news, any progress re tenants being found! But nothing!!

If I had serious money I would build this tower In a heartbeat! fingers crossed that they don't build a awful tower for half the cost and ruin the skyline of the best city in the world! Fact!!

Ask for a loan

djs83 · August 29th, 2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ElDudarinodotcom

Ask for a loan

If we all put a fiver in I'm sure we'd be half way there lol

Darloeye · August 29th, 2012, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djs83

I'm getting extremely frustrated with this building! Every week I keep checking for news, any progress re tenants being found! But nothing!!

If I had serious money I would build this tower In a heartbeat! fingers crossed that they don't build a awful tower for half the cost and ruin the skyline of the best city in the world! Fact!!

Pay Day Loans should cover the cost of the build.

djs83 · August 30th, 2012, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Darloeye

Pay Day Loans should cover the cost of the build.

Or Cash my Gold!

Darloeye · August 30th, 2012, 10:47 PM

Yeah best use both

July 7th, 2012, 11:37 PM	#1921
Jex7844 La Défenseholic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NANTES Posts: 4,833 Likes (Received): 634	And to say that it was the project I looked forward to the most...at the end of the day, I have a feeling we're all going to be disappointed... __________________ Back Thom Mayne's PHARE tower in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Back Norman Foster's TWIN TOWERS in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Soutenez le futur PONT TRANSBORDEUR de Nantes, signez ICI

July 8th, 2012, 12:27 PM	#1923
LondonFox Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,107 Likes (Received): 129	It has already had one redesign as it is. The overlapping cladding was changed to the more conforming style. And they are saying that the architect is working on the cladding again.. So I don't expect the tower will look that different, perhaps only slightly.. but I think the cladding will be less fancy again... You can't say in one sentence, "we want it to be more iconic than the shard" .. and at the same time turn this building into a box shape as someone posted on the last page. Not going to happen... city planners wouldn't allow that for starters. I remain very optimistic about this. If they can shave some costs by simplifying the cladding some more in order for it to be built, then that is great news. __________________ Riot shields, Voodoo economics. It's just business, cattle prods and the I.M.F. I trust I can rely on your vote.

July 11th, 2012, 07:19 PM	#1930
MissyC Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,539	As long as is not going to be another pyramid or obelisque ... __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ They steal the future; They sell it today and They call it Gross Domestic Product!

July 13th, 2012, 05:06 PM	#1931
SO143 Maderator Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 22,310 Likes (Received): 807	or another magnificent tower like this! __________________ LDN PAR MAD PSM SOS BOU CND CAR PET

August 2nd, 2012, 01:56 AM	#1932
SO143 Maderator Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 22,310 Likes (Received): 807	image hosted on flickr P8010027 by Lumberjack_London, on Flickr __________________ LDN PAR MAD PSM SOS BOU CND CAR PET

July 8th, 2012, 12:40 PM	#1924
cloud32 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Norwich Posts: 313 Likes (Received): 3	I don't like the idea of 'simplifying' the cladding. By the sounds of it, 'simplifying' means 'making cheaper', and having a taller poor quality skyscraper (to me) is worse that having a still very tall good quality one. But then again, can they really expect a height increase seeming as it was reduced beforehand? Im guessing not.

July 8th, 2012, 06:58 PM	#1927
RobertWalpole SSP is provincial! Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,393 Likes (Received): 158	Does London have restrictions like NY, which limit the amount of square meters for each plot of land?

July 8th, 2012, 09:10 PM	#1929
cloud32 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Norwich Posts: 313 Likes (Received): 3	Couldn't agree more!

August 2nd, 2012, 12:46 PM	#1933
Jex7844 La Défenseholic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NANTES Posts: 4,833 Likes (Received): 634	What are the workers doing...? __________________ Back Thom Mayne's PHARE tower in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Back Norman Foster's TWIN TOWERS in Paris-La Défense, please sign HERE Soutenez le futur PONT TRANSBORDEUR de Nantes, signez ICI

August 28th, 2012, 03:10 AM	#1935
djs83 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 10 Likes (Received): 0	I'm getting extremely frustrated with this building! Every week I keep checking for news, any progress re tenants being found! But nothing!! If I had serious money I would build this tower In a heartbeat! fingers crossed that they don't build a awful tower for half the cost and ruin the skyline of the best city in the world! Fact!!

August 30th, 2012, 10:47 PM	#1940
Darloeye Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: County Durham, England Posts: 1,666 Likes (Received): 20	Yeah best use both

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