Hyderabad Metro Updates

[Irrational_Indian]

Originally Posted by Prodigist

These are a few videos posted by HyderabadMetro on Youtube

They refined the earlier renders of the stations and reposted them. They look better now.

These renders look WAY better than the earlier ones.

[tikkasriharsha]

Lets hope they stick to these designs

[aam admi]

Its nice to see Hyderabad metro (L&T) officials meeting with forumers. Its good that they are following these threads. I am still not sure of the explanation given in the favour of overhead traction. It would be nice if they could go for third rail traction. It looks so astheticaly nice. I am sure technical factors are no hindrance in going for third rail and hope, HMR will not spoil the skyline for saving few crores or pleasing strong overhead loby.

[Display]

http://newindianexpress.com/cities/h...icle583600.ece

Ganesh Chaturthi is just a month away and there’s already talk of pollution, clay idols and what not. But what do the artisans themselves think? A quick check has revealed two facts. One, this time, there could be some sort of shortage of idols compared to the last few years. Second, we are nowhere near a green Ganesh festival.

Around this time of the year, the Miyapur stretch is usually be dotted with idol makers and their make-shift tents. Now, though, there aren’t quite as many.

Reason: Many of the workers and artisans involved in the production of the idols have reportedly moved out of State. Some of the artisans working on the stretch told City Express that the number of idols could come down in the city this time because of the shortage of manpower.

What prompted the workers to move out? “The ongoing metro rail works uprooted many of the roadside workers. The authorities have taken away most of the open land and roadsides,” said several artisans in one voice.

“For many years, there were more than 80 different groups, small and large, who were involved in Ganesh idol-making at Miyapur. This year, we are only around 15 groups here and a lot of us are using rented lands. Most of them have gone back to their villages. A few have shifted to other parts of the city,” said Praveen Bhatti who has been in the business for more than 16 years at Miyapur.

When asked about the reason, he replied, “the ongoing metro rail works which widened the roads near Miyapur have forced us out of the regular lands beside the roads.” According to Bhatti and his friends, the authorities have directed all the workers and artisans to vacate government lands.

[ZaheerH]

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chann...etro-works-912

Properties of the erstwhile Nizam’s Estate are threatening to delay the progress of the Rs 13,000-crore Hyderabad Metro Rail project. Though some of these properties became state-owned after Hyderabad was merged with the Indian Union, a large number of properties are still in the hands of private occupants, who have been in residence on the properties for the past several decades.

There are over 300 such properties that are standing in the way of the Metro Rail project. Greater Hyderabad Municipal Corporation, which is acquiring the properties for HMR authorities, are finding the acquisition difficult. A majority of the occupants have pattas issued by the erstwhile Nizam government, while others have sale deeds. Some have been staying there for over 80 years now. As per the revenue records, a large number of properties have been shown as government- owned lands. There are over 100 such properties between Musheerabad-Chikkadpally, Sultan Bazaar, Charminar, Shah Ali Banda and Falaknuma stretch; another 50 on Ameerpet-SR Nagar-Erragadda stretch; and over 100 on the Chaderghat-Malakpet section. All these routes are part of the three corridors of Hyderabad Metro Rail, i.e., Miyapur to LB Nagar, Jubilee Bus Station to Falaknuma and Nagole to Shilparamam.

Highly-placed sources said using the Land Acquisition Act to acquire these lands will result in a prolonged legal battle with the occupants. But an out-of-court settlement would mean giving compensation to occupants of government land, as a large number of these lands have been shown as state-owned in Revenue records.

“As per policies, compensation will not be paid for government properties giving way to the Metro Rail project. Land titles have to be clear in all aspects if compensation has to be paid,” said a GHMC official, adding, the delay in acquisition of these lands will result in huge cost escalation in the Metro Rail project. GHMC additional commissioner K. Dhanunjaya Reddy confirmed that there were nearly 300 such properties. “We are negotiating with them, but in many cases, the owners were willing to give up the lands, but their tenants were refusing to vacate. To avoid delay in the project execution, government recently gave permission to acquire such properties by paying ex-gratia, which will not be termed compensation. We are negotiating with the owners and occupants,” Mr Dhanunjaya added.

[tankbund]

Originally Posted by skdubai

Excellent work! Thanks for the summery!

I must admit, I was hoping for the loops for the OHE! would have added a unique touch to the whole project!

Just to clarify, do they mean the rolling stock design will be finalized in 15 days or the vendor? did you manage to ask them if the rolling stock will look like the ones in the renders?

Support this idea of loops. Much better than masts.

However, OHE is a bad decision by HMR along with the rolling stock chosen. It will not make HMR a stand out Metro train as initially expected.

The only expectation now is that the rest of the project goes as planned.

[mangalore mania]

Originally Posted by ZaheerH

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chann...etro-works-912

Properties of the erstwhile Nizam’s Estate are threatening to delay the progress of the Rs 13,000-crore Hyderabad Metro Rail project. Though some of these properties became state-owned after Hyderabad was merged with the Indian Union, a large number of properties are still in the hands of private occupants, who have been in residence on the properties for the past several decades.

There are over 300 such properties that are standing in the way of the Metro Rail project. Greater Hyderabad Municipal Corporation, which is acquiring the properties for HMR authorities, are finding the acquisition difficult. A majority of the occupants have pattas issued by the erstwhile Nizam government, while others have sale deeds. Some have been staying there for over 80 years now. As per the revenue records, a large number of properties have been shown as government- owned lands. There are over 100 such properties between Musheerabad-Chikkadpally, Sultan Bazaar, Charminar, Shah Ali Banda and Falaknuma stretch; another 50 on Ameerpet-SR Nagar-Erragadda stretch; and over 100 on the Chaderghat-Malakpet section. All these routes are part of the three corridors of Hyderabad Metro Rail, i.e., Miyapur to LB Nagar, Jubilee Bus Station to Falaknuma and Nagole to Shilparamam.

Highly-placed sources said using the Land Acquisition Act to acquire these lands will result in a prolonged legal battle with the occupants. But an out-of-court settlement would mean giving compensation to occupants of government land, as a large number of these lands have been shown as state-owned in Revenue records.

“As per policies, compensation will not be paid for government properties giving way to the Metro Rail project. Land titles have to be clear in all aspects if compensation has to be paid,” said a GHMC official, adding, the delay in acquisition of these lands will result in huge cost escalation in the Metro Rail project. GHMC additional commissioner K. Dhanunjaya Reddy confirmed that there were nearly 300 such properties. “We are negotiating with them, but in many cases, the owners were willing to give up the lands, but their tenants were refusing to vacate. To avoid delay in the project execution, government recently gave permission to acquire such properties by paying ex-gratia, which will not be termed compensation. We are negotiating with the owners and occupants,” Mr Dhanunjaya added.

This was the main reason in the beginning I was arguing for a Underground Metro in the old city and relatively old like Nampalli, Koti.. Too much too loose from heritage.. The Asal Hyderabad will be gone

[harsh1802]

Kudos to everyone involved in this thread. Extra kudos to the team who met with L&T!

Great updates and pics guys!!

[vinsatish]

Originally Posted by Prodigist

As you know, there was a meeting that was organised yesterday with the L&T Metro officials. 3 of us(me, smannar and vinsatish) had a very good interaction with Mr. Sanjay Kapoor (Head,Corporate Communications & Advertisement Business), Mr. Anil Kumar Saini (Head-Railway Systems) and Mr. G. Narendranath (Asst manager-Corporate Affairs)

We were explained in detail on why a OHE power supply was preffered by Mr. Anil Kumar Saini(Who is a very experienced and knowledgeable about metro systems having worked with DMRC, Mumbai Metro and he was also a part of the consultancy wing of DMRC which also did the first DPR of the Hyderabad Metro)

Let me give you other updates before moving to that issue.

• Rolling Stock will probably be decided in the next 15 days.
• Nagole stretch will be commisioned by May 2015(most probably before that).Segment launching will start in November.
• We couldn't get any dates for the start of activity on the other corridors.
• Initially L&T will be using 3 car trains with a frequency of around 10 minutes in the Nagole stretch.
• Stations have been designed for 6-car trains only. Signalling equipment that is being used can operate trains at a frequency of 90 seconds(So even with a 6car train a capacity of 88000phpdt is possible), so they think its highly unlikely that capacity would be breached at this stage.
• Skywalks are being implemented by the Govt along with the property owners. Parking facilities are going to be provided at 25/66 stations. Additionally the govt is trying to provide additional parking spaces in the vicinity of the rest of the stations.
• L&T is responsible for the management of the smart card(Not HMR). They are working with Keolis on this. Also the ticketing counters/gates would be NFC enabled and would incorporate all the latest technologies.
• Also the smart cards would have a auto top up facility, where the smart cards would be recharged automatically from the connected bank account when the balance becomes zero. They are also planning to bring along APSRTC and MMTS to use the smart cards. APSRTC is going to run the feeder services.
• L&T is planning to build a metro museum that wil highlight the progress of the metro project in Hyd.
• L&T is also planning to bring in additional offers through mobile apps which will have more services.(This probably bring in more advertisement revenues)
• The poles will be of the regular type(No loops etc.)

L&T officials have promised that they are doing all that they can to decrease the visual intrusion and increase the aesthetics particularly around Charminar. More detailed questions couldn't be asked because time was running out.The Land acquisition is the governments responsibilty. The officials are quietly confident that these problems would be solved. The government has to initiate the expansion of the network. L&T is not involved in this.

OHE vs Third rail
Apparently the choice between third rail and OHE was left to the bidders even in the bid documents. We were explained in detail about the reason why even HMRL okay-ed a OHE supply. The system being used here is a 25kv OHE catenary suppy.

The reasons are:
1) Stray currents from the use of a DC third rail system lead to corrosion of metallic pipes while also decreasing the life of the metro structures. We were told that metro rail companies pay penalties to utilities in western countries for the damaged pipes/equipment. By using OHE life of the metro strucures can be increased significantly. These currents may also affect the heritage buildings along the corridor.

2) Safety concerns: Incase a third rail is used, emergency exits are through the side doors which lead to a safety path along the railings. This safety path is typically ~70 cm away from the train(a little more at the curves) making it difficult for children, the old and the disabled to get out quickly(incase of fires etc.), Whereas if OHE is used, a door at the front and back can open onto the tracks directly and the people can easily disembark and proceed to the nearest station. This surface would be flat except for the rails. This would also be safe for the metro maintenance staff(No accidents if they deviate from the SOP)

3) Visual intrusion is the biggest negative of a OHE but when we compared it with the viaduct structure itself, a OHE will only increase the visual intrusion by 8%.

4) Greater capacity system can be implemented using a OHE supply.

5) 15% more energy is required if a third rail is used.

6) Since in India we have all the expertise with 25kv OHE lines, there is no need to import any equipment and it will also be easier to service.

Thanks for the summary. It was nice to meet the L & T people and they were very friendly. We hope that they implement the project on time and the government and other agencies provide them full help in getting this public utility on time.

[Irrational_Indian]

I sent a mail to Mr.Sanjay Kapoor regarding using the Nampally Sarai as a transit museum and he tells me that it's seriously being considered an option. And that the idea of converting the stretch under Badi chowdi like an pedestrians market is looked into



The www.ltmetro.in is also updated with some new information.


Btw, There is a page that has information on how many piers/foundations have been laid here. Guess they're trying to make us redundant :P

[Metrohigh]

http://www.larsentoubro.com/lntcorpo..._MET_BHYM_FCON


what are the roles of these consultants?

[Gudavalli]

Hyd Metro Rail Project will be completed on schedule: AP govt

Hyderabad, Aug 8 (PTI) Andhra Pradesh government today said it was confident of completion of the ambitious Hyderabad Metro Rail Project on schedule by 2017 with project-related works gaining momentum as per plan. The works have begun in two phases with 60 pillars being laid and the state government is monitoring the progress of works to complete the project on time. The state government is spending about Rs 2,000 crore towards the facilitation of the project, Municipal Administration Minister M Maheedhar Reddy said. He was speaking to reporters as part of the 'Praja Hitham' (public interest) programme under which progress report of each department is presented once in a week. Reddy informed that Chief Minister N Kiran Kumar Reddy has sought completion of the project by 2016 itself, following which the state government is making all efforts to remove "bottlenecks" like land acquisition and road widening. Out of total project cost of Rs 14,132 crore, the Centre bears 10 per cent of it, while the private partner L&T shoulders remaining 90 per cent of the cost, he said. On holding municipal elections in the state, Reddy said the government will approach court to conduct the polls as per 2001 Census data as the 2012 data is not available right now.

[raghussc]

Originally Posted by Irrational_Indian

I sent a mail to Mr.Sanjay Kapoor regarding using the Nampally Sarai as a transit museum and he tells me that it's seriously being considered an option. And that the idea of converting the stretch under Badi chowdi like an pedestrians market is looked into



The www.ltmetro.in is also updated with some new information.


Btw, There is a page that has information on how many piers/foundations have been laid here. Guess they're trying to make us redundant :P

They should actually put an 'as of xxx date' in that page so we know when the status was updated ...

So looks like 40 pillars are already up on the nagole mettuguda stage .. good job !

[Pavanraju]

Will it be a good idea to update the number of piers w.r.t number more to go?

[Prodigist]

Originally Posted by Pavanraju

Will it be a good idea to update the number of piers w.r.t number more to go?

There are 305 piers in the Nagole-Mettuguda stretch. Totally there will be around 2500.

Here's a pic from the last weeks meet. Couldn't post it earlier as I didn't have it then.

[Prodigist]

Hyd Metro Rail Project will be completed on schedule: AP govt
Source: IBNLIVE

Andhra Pradesh government today said it was confident of completion of the ambitious Hyderabad Metro Rail Project on schedule by 2017 with project-related works gaining momentum as per plan. The works have begun in two phases with 60 pillars being laid and the state government is monitoring the progress of works to complete the project on time. The state government is spending about Rs 2,000 crore towards the facilitation of the project, Municipal Administration Minister M Maheedhar Reddy said. He was speaking to reporters as part of the 'Praja Hitham' (public interest) programme under which progress report of each department is presented once in a week.

Reddy informed that Chief Minister N Kiran Kumar Reddy has sought completion of the project by 2016 itself, following which the state government is making all efforts to remove "bottlenecks" like land acquisition and road widening. Out of total project cost of Rs 14,132 crore, the Centre bears 10 per cent of it, while the private partner L&T shoulders remaining 90 per cent of the cost, he said. On holding municipal elections in the state, Reddy said the government will approach court to conduct the polls as per 2001 Census data as the 2012 data is not available right now.

[ZaheerH]

Not so negative tone because this does not deal entirely with the Metro
HYDERABAD: The consultant appointed to undertake the Comprehensive Transportation Study (CTS) for Hyderabad Metropolitan Region (HMR) has been asked to consider the proposed expansion at the city's IT hub as also the plan to shift industrial units outside Outer Ring Road.

The LEA group, consultant for the CTS, on Thursday made a presentation to representatives of various departments on the transportation study at the Hyderabad Metro Rail Limited (HMRL) offices. The study is being taken up by Hyderabad Metropolitan Development Authority (HMDA) with financial assistance from other departments.

The consultant was asked to study any modifications to be made in the notified GHMC masterplan and HMDA areas to improve public transportation within HMA. The transportation systems and physical land use developments have to be dovetailed for more mobility, that is, faster transit time and more open spaces by way of transit-oriented developments.

The future transport system planning would have to be more towards mass public transport allowing citizens to travel by public transport instead of having to take their private vehicles.

The consultants said that location of future employment and population would determine the transport system plans and investments required for it. The study revealed that the population of HMA in next 30 years would be in the range of 1.6 crore to 1.9 crore, whereas the number of jobs would be in the range of 60 to 90 lakh. The survey has shown that nearly 60% of traffic on the road was two-wheelers and they carry only 32% of the population, while 2.5% of bus traffic carry as much as 34% of the people.

The consultant said that the main focus of the study was on changing travel trends for Hyderabad and the future possible growth in population and employment along with their location in HMA. The consultants also presented and discussed in detail various options of future development and growth scenario with regard to land use and transport, including possible expansion of MMTS through case studies.

The LEA representatives said congestion on the road could be reduced only if people shifted from two-wheelers and cars to metro or public transport system.

The CTS would come up with transportation plan that would integrate the land use with transport and also integrate the transport system to provide seamless travel.

The meeting was chaired by principal secretary, MA&UD B Sam Bob and attended by HMDA metropolitan commissioner Neerabh Kumar Prasad, principal secretary, industries & commerce K Pradeep Chandra, GHMC commissioner MT Krishna Babu and others.

[saraag]

Metro Rail: L&T to finalise rolling stock vendor

Even as the works of metro rail project has gathered momentum after the declaration of 'appointed date' last month, concessionaire L&T has shortlisted the venders supplying rolling stock and the sources said the tenders would be finalized in a week's time.

Rolling stock comprising traction and train set forms the main part of the project and l&T has shortlisted four consortiums including one headed by Bangalore-based public sector unit BEML (Bharat Earth Movers limited). BEML has formed consortium with Korean Company Hyundai ROTEM to enter the fray, while China-based CSR-Zhuzhou Electric Locomotive Co, Canadian company Bombardier, and Spanish conglomerate CAF are vying for the contract with order price of over Rs. 2000 crore.

A spokesperson of L&T Metro rail (Hyderabad) said, "We had called for application for tender to supply rolling stock and four consortiums have been qualified for the final bidding. The tenders would be finalized in a week's time."

While currency fluctuation is adding to the cost of project surmised to have touched Rs. 20000 crore and further escalating due to the other factors including delay in execution of works, inflation, and floating interest rates, the l&T is persuading the foreign venders to base their manufacturing in India in a bid to make the project cost-effective and their response is learnt to have been positive.

"The good part is that most of the foreign vendors, with whom the company is currently in discussions, have been planning to set up operations as the country is now taking 15-20 metro rails in major cities," said the spokesperson.

Following the selection of a vender supplying rolling stock, the tenders to supply signaling &train control, and track works are slated to be finalized for mid-September. And according to the current estimation the total order price for the tenders for the project including rolling stock, track works, automatic fare collection, and communication systems is Rs.5000 crore.

V B Gadgil, chief executive officer of L&T metro rail (Hyderabad) told TOI the works were on fasts track after the declaration of the 'appointed date', the official commencement of the works, and he hoped the project would be commissioned well ahead of the deadline- five years from the appointed date that is July 5 of this year. "We have submitted a revised plan for withdrawal of loans to the consortium of banks and we will start drawing the loan amount once the venders are finalized," said Gadgil.

Enlisting the works done, Gadgil claimed 61 piers had been erected in the stretch between Nagole and Mettuguda of the Corridor- III between Nagole and Shilparamam, while laying foundation for 100 piers in the stretch was completed and over 103 viaduct segments had been cast. While slow pace of property acquisition in Sultan Bazar was causing concern, Gadgil hoped the GHMC would act swiftly to provide the right of way for the project there.

Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...w/15433130.cms

[Irrational_Indian]

I'm hoping CAF is chosen and that they set up their plant somewhere near Hyderabad or in AP. We'd be home to TWO rolling stock manufacturers.

[raghussc]

+1

These big industries bring in many more small scale industries by locals and the economy keeps moving. But I'm not sure if they would set it up near Hyd or if they prefer a port city. I guess that is why Alstom select Sricity.