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WaynO · August 7th, 2012, 08:46 AM

I think people really need to read the Master Plan so they understand why they are doing what they are doing through out the course of this project:

Master Plan - READ IT

crave · August 7th, 2012, 08:49 AM

i don't know how to read...

docker · August 7th, 2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ozaway

the other end of the new tracks, where it will meet up with the current line. i think going over the top of the tunnel that is already build as previously mentioned

Hi Docker,

These tracks are also temporary. When the Freo tunnel is complete, the tracks will emerge parallel to but on the southern side of the Joondalup tracks. When the tracks in your picture are removed it creates the space needed for that bloody awful land-bridge to descend again to street level.

Hi ozaway,

yeah i know. it is just kinda hard to explain things properly when you can't be bothered. i figured since the discussion was already had, most people would understand what i meant.

EGC_123 · August 7th, 2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ekul444

This is the website for the rail/bus component of the project, currently being undertaken by Perth City Link Rail Alliance.

This is the latest email update (came out Friday)

This is the home page for the whole City Link project.

Cheers

ozaway · August 8th, 2012, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by docker

Hi ozaway,

yeah i know. it is just kinda hard to explain things properly when you can't be bothered. i figured since the discussion was already had, most people would understand what i meant.

The other day I was peering over the balustrade at the work on the Central Station platforms and luckily encountered an engineer who worked on the project - and agreed to interpret all the chaos.

Interesting building technique. The roof and walls of the underground walkway have already been poured. Once they're set, they begin excavating the soil from inside and then lay and tank the floor. A kind of mixture of cut-and-cover and tunnelling. Currently the roof extends from platforms 6/7, under the tracks, to 5 and then under the building foundation. Not sure how much they've poured on the Wellington Street side.

The large rectangle cavity (bottom right) in one of your pictures will be a stair and lift access to the tunnel. Further up Platform 5 is a second stair access cavity.

Another thing I didn't realise is they will divert four separate tracks into the dive tunnel. So trains that originate from Armadale, Midland and Thornlie can continue to Fremantle.

I just love having someone explain this stuff.

B787-938 · August 8th, 2012, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ozaway

The other day I was peering over the balustrade at the work on the Central Station platforms and luckily encountered an engineer who worked on the project - and agreed to interpret all the chaos.

Interesting building technique. The roof and walls of the underground walkway have already been poured. Once they're set, they begin excavating the soil from inside and then lay and tank the floor. A kind of mixture of cut-and-cover and tunnelling. Currently the roof extends from platforms 6/7, under the tracks, to 5 and then under the building foundation. Not sure how much they've poured on the Wellington Street side.

The large rectangle cavity (bottom right) in one of your pictures will be a stair and lift access to the tunnel. Further up Platform 5 is a second stair access cavity.

Another thing I didn't realise is they will divert four separate tracks into the dive tunnel. So trains that originate from Armadale, Midland and Thornlie can continue to Fremantle.

I just love having someone explain this stuff.

Thats right. The blokes in the photo below are standing over the underpass roof slab. The triangle shaped opening on the right (with steel barriers around it) is the opening for the skylight. There will be one on each platform. The replacement spaceframe column is being poured in the vertical red formwork.

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sandstorm6299 · August 8th, 2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ozaway

Another thing I didn't realise is they will divert four separate tracks into the dive tunnel. So trains that originate from Armadale, Midland and Thornlie can continue to Fremantle.

Almost right. 6 (Armadale peak) and 7 (Fremantle) will merge into one track, and 8 (Midland) and 9 (Extra) will merge into one track. Both of these merged tracks will go into the tunnel. 3 (Australind), 4 (Thornlie) will remain the same. 5 (Armadale) will turn into a dead end.

WstrnAstrln · August 8th, 2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sandstorm6299

Almost right. 6 (Armadale peak) and 7 (Fremantle) will merge into one track, and 8 (Midland) and 9 (Extra) will merge into one track. Both of these merged tracks will go into the tunnel. 3 (Australind), 4 (Thornlie) will remain the same. 5 (Armadale) will turn into a dead end.

would be good if Transwa's avonlink and prospector trains terminated at this station like the australind does (im aware of gauge differences). i wouldnt imagine a lot of visitors actually see the trains at all which is a pity because they look pretty cool...... anyway.

ekul444 · August 8th, 2012, 03:11 PM

Public info campaign of the upcoming station closure/layout changes is starting to ramp up. PTA is using a cute little slogan "We're growing to keep you going" with a tree made from train tracks.

The station is now plastered with signage, and I noticed this video being retweeted on twitter today.

Also from twitter, hoarding up in the Perth Underground tunnel for the new underpass connection.

And I noticed the other day installation of lots of plasmas on the eastern concourse, presumably new information displays. I hope they are as easy to read as the LED matrix ones they currently have on the platforms...

Source

Unregistered2 · August 8th, 2012, 04:09 PM

didnt know theyre digging another tunnel under the barrack st bridge, hopefully its not as bad as the william st tunnel

sandstorm6299 · August 8th, 2012, 06:28 PM

The tunnel is for a new set of tracks emerging from the Midland Line into the new platform.

ekul444 · August 9th, 2012, 02:24 PM

Here is an amazing new 3D walkthrough of the station. Can't wait for it to be finished!

sandstorm6299 · August 9th, 2012, 02:55 PM

Oh that is wonderful!

Urbicus · August 9th, 2012, 03:10 PM

It'll be fantastic from a public infrastructure POV, but Perth Station is going to be an horrifically ugly mess.

crave · August 9th, 2012, 03:11 PM

i wanna see a walk-thru of tha whole precinct concept!

which road link connection will be opened by 2014?

***Dilaz89*** · August 9th, 2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbicus

It'll be fantastic from a public infrastructure POV, but Perth Station is going to be an horrifically ugly mess.

What makes you think that? It's going to be way better and more streamlined than it is presently.

ekul444 · August 9th, 2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbicus

It'll be fantastic from a public infrastructure POV, but Perth Station is going to be an horrifically ugly mess.

How come? The modifications to the eastern concourse for platform 8/9 look blergh but everything else seems OK?

Ipggi · August 9th, 2012, 03:33 PM

The roof, carpark and the elevated concourse is still a relic from the 1980's Forrest Chase/Place development.

jackso · August 9th, 2012, 03:41 PM

Agreed, it's a fantastic project but it's going to end up looking rather piecemeal. One day, one day I would like to see a project in this city that is actually inspiring. Certainly not holding my breath though.

Bullswool · August 9th, 2012, 03:50 PM

I think the underpass will make a massive difference to the rail connectivity. I hope they have live boards showing the next trains at the entrance to each platform in the underpass.

No need to upgrade the roof, it offers some natural light and creates a big covered area. Most people don't even notice it. I think the platform upgrades are far more important - they are the areas everyone looks at when they use the station.

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August 7th, 2012, 08:46 AM	#3381
WaynO Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Perth Posts: 22 Likes (Received): 0	I think people really need to read the Master Plan so they understand why they are doing what they are doing through out the course of this project: Master Plan - READ IT

August 8th, 2012, 03:11 PM	#3389
ekul444 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 889 Likes (Received): 58	Public info campaign of the upcoming station closure/layout changes is starting to ramp up. PTA is using a cute little slogan "We're growing to keep you going" with a tree made from train tracks. The station is now plastered with signage, and I noticed this video being retweeted on twitter today. Also from twitter, hoarding up in the Perth Underground tunnel for the new underpass connection. And I noticed the other day installation of lots of plasmas on the eastern concourse, presumably new information displays. I hope they are as easy to read as the LED matrix ones they currently have on the platforms... Source

August 8th, 2012, 04:09 PM	#3390
Unregistered2 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 67 Likes (Received): 0	didnt know theyre digging another tunnel under the barrack st bridge, hopefully its not as bad as the william st tunnel

August 8th, 2012, 06:28 PM	#3391
sandstorm6299 Previously in Singapore Join Date: May 2006 Location: Perth Posts: 1,506 Likes (Received): 4	The tunnel is for a new set of tracks emerging from the Midland Line into the new platform.

August 9th, 2012, 02:24 PM	#3392
ekul444 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 889 Likes (Received): 58	Here is an amazing new 3D walkthrough of the station. Can't wait for it to be finished!

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sandstorm6299 Previously in Singapore Join Date: May 2006 Location: Perth Posts: 1,506 Likes (Received): 4	Oh that is wonderful!

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Urbicus Demolish the PCEC Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,272 Likes (Received): 326	It'll be fantastic from a public infrastructure POV, but Perth Station is going to be an horrifically ugly mess.

August 9th, 2012, 03:41 PM	#3399
jackso Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth Posts: 8,118 Likes (Received): 178	Agreed, it's a fantastic project but it's going to end up looking rather piecemeal. One day, one day I would like to see a project in this city that is actually inspiring. Certainly not holding my breath though.

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Bullswool Perthite Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 7,837 Likes (Received): 129	I think the underpass will make a massive difference to the rail connectivity. I hope they have live boards showing the next trains at the entrance to each platform in the underpass. No need to upgrade the roof, it offers some natural light and creates a big covered area. Most people don't even notice it. I think the platform upgrades are far more important - they are the areas everyone looks at when they use the station.