Railway development in Karnataka

[hemanth1987]

Originally Posted by sunder.k

There is no hard and fast rule that KSK exp has to have only 540 seats for karnataka. We can always demand more in terms of extra bogies if the patronage is good.

Our idea is not only to connect Bengaluru. Why not make KSK exp a 24 bogie train with enough quotas to Davanagere,Hubli, Belagaum, Tumakuru etc so that people of karnataka are benefitted most.

I am talking about quota seats hubli people will get after rerouting via Hubli. KSK is a 24-25coach train with 5or6 HCPV 19(SL+AC+Gen) total 24Coaches.

Coach Composition:; [ENG: WDP4a/WAP4]=[5-6 HCPV's]=[SLR]=[GEN]=[S1]=[S2]=[S3]=[S4]=[S5]=[PANTRY]=[S6]=[S7]=[S8]=[S9]=[S10]=[B2]=[B1]=; [A1]=[HA1]=[GEN]=[SLR]=[B3] So total 24 coaches

Originally Posted by sunder.k

Friends, if timing alone is the criterion, then KSK exp can also run thru Bengaluru- Bangarpet-Jolapet-Katpadi-Gudur-Vijayawada and Warangal route which is fully electrified. I am sure, KSK could run in 35 hours in this route( possibly the fastest non Rajdhani/Duranto train) as at present Tamilnadu exp runs to Chennai from Delhi in 32 hours in the same route.

Even if KSKL runs via Jolarpet,Katpadi,Vijaywada it will take 38.5Hrs
Delhi-Vijaywada 1754KM=26hrs
Vijaywada-Banglore 750Km=12.5hrs
Tamil Nadu Exp takes 33hrs from Chennai to Delhi and 32hr45mins from Delhi to Chennai.

Originally Posted by sunder.k

Our Karnataka exp, when originally introduced, was running on this route only, for 4 days a week. But this is not what we intend to.

The Karnataka Express was introduced as a bi-weekly for initial years, and then existed as a tri-weekly train and finally 4days. The Karnataka Express was merged with the present Kerala Express from Delhi to Jolarpettai and was popular as KK. It ran via Bhopal, Nagpur, Vijaywada and Jolarpettai. In 1987 this train was bifurcated from the Kerala Express. Karnataka Express then ran via Guntakal, Secunderabad. Later it was diverted via Wadi, Daund,Manmad, Bhusaval, Itarsi and Bhopal; which is its current route.

Originally Posted by sunder.k

One more area which is ignored is the Dakshina Kannada belt, where trains from Mangaluru to Delhi originate, but go south to Kerala, run through Tamilnadu and Andhra travelling more than 700 km extra instead of running through Hassan, Arasikere, Hubli, Belagaum or thru Karwar, Londa, Belagaum, Pune. The quota for Mangaluru is substantial and yet the passengers are forced to travel 700km extra which is audocious and we people of karnataka are mute spectators to such acts by railways.

Except Navyug weekly Exp all other trains like Trivendrum Rajdhani, Mangala Lakshadweep Exp, Sampark kranti,Dehradun, Amritsar Exp go via Karwar Madgoan. Only Navyug weekly Exp goes via Kerala. Mangala Exp has good quota for Manglore people 192+238Tatkal seats. So Demand should be for new trains as it is decided by respective divisions by introducing as special and making permanent, as for Rerouting Railway Board has to Decide as entire route itself is changed and not a small portion in between some stations.

[devaraju]

Originally Posted by DrYaqoob

They knew that Hubli-Ankola line will be implemented shortly.....

[sunder.k]

Originally Posted by hemanth1987

I am talking about quota seats hubli people will get after rerouting via Hubli. KSK is a 24-25coach train with 5or6 HCPV 19(SL+AC+Gen) total 24Coaches.

Coach Composition:; [ENG: WDP4a/WAP4]=[5-6 HCPV's]=[SLR]=[GEN]=[S1]=[S2]=[S3]=[S4]=[S5]=[PANTRY]=[S6]=[S7]=[S8]=[S9]=[S10]=[B2]=[B1]=; [A1]=[HA1]=[GEN]=[SLR]=[B3] So total 24 coaches



Even if KSKL runs via Jolarpet,Katpadi,Vijaywada it will take 38.5Hrs
Delhi-Vijaywada 1754KM=26hrs
Vijaywada-Banglore 750Km=12.5hrs
Tamil Nadu Exp takes 33hrs from Chennai to Delhi and 32hr45mins from Delhi to Chennai.



The Karnataka Express was introduced as a bi-weekly for initial years, and then existed as a tri-weekly train and finally 4days. The Karnataka Express was merged with the present Kerala Express from Delhi to Jolarpettai and was popular as KK. It ran via Bhopal, Nagpur, Vijaywada and Jolarpettai. In 1987 this train was bifurcated from the Kerala Express. Karnataka Express then ran via Guntakal, Secunderabad. Later it was diverted via Wadi, Daund,Manmad, Bhusaval, Itarsi and Bhopal; which is its current route.



Except Navyug weekly Exp all other trains like Trivendrum Rajdhani, Mangala Lakshadweep Exp, Sampark kranti,Dehradun, Amritsar Exp go via Karwar Madgoan. Only Navyug weekly Exp goes via Kerala. Mangala Exp has good quota for Manglore people 192+238Tatkal seats. So Demand should be for new trains as it is decided by respective divisions by introducing as special and making permanent, as for Rerouting Railway Board has to Decide as entire route itself is changed and not a small portion in between some stations.

Hemanth,

No point in justifying non running of trains through major towns of karnataka. If run through Guntakal-Raichur-Gulbarga and Bidar,( once the line between Bidar and Gulbarga is ready) KSK will save at least a 100 km and thereby further reduce the time by 2 more hours. It is better we make it run through cities/towns of karnataka which would be easily possible to correct their course with a representation. Now with trains going through Andhra, their MPs being more powerful and influential, they will not allow any change per se in present or in future.

As far as trains from Mangaluru are concerned, except the Ernakulam-Pune weekly exp, none of them touch Londa, Belagaum, Miraj which would benefit people of NW karnataka.

Just because we dont ask them or reconcile like you are doing right now, we would be the losers.

Just to give an eg-The Tamilnadu Sampark Kranthi exp runs between Madurai and Nizamuddin. The shortest route to Delhi from Madurai is through Dindugal, Salem, Bengaluru/Baiyappanahalli, Hyderabad and Kazipet. But the MPs of Tamilnadu have ensured that it runs via Chennai so that maximum no. of people in Tamilnadu are benefitted.

Not that the traffic between Madurai, Dindugal, Karur and Salem to Delhi is insufficient to fill the train. And not that Chennai is dependent on this train substantially for it to necessarily run through Chennai.


Going by your logic, they should have had the train through the route that I have mentioned above, but it is not so.

Let us stick to what we want- we want trains through many cities of Karnataka and that is all is the need of the hour.

[pavan9741650414]

Karnataka railway police understaffed, overworked

The acute staff shortage in the state Government Railway Police (GRP) is taking a heavy toll on the patrolling of trains, railway property and detection of crimes. A proposal has been submitted to the Railway Board, Delhi, seeking appointment of more policemen, besides other measures.

The current strength of 900 staff members has remained constant since 1981. This, even as the average number of passengers a day has increased from 1.74 lakh (1981) to 4.17 lakh (2011).

The numbers of trains in 2003 were 257, but now it is 529. In the same period number of railway station increased from 322 to 363 and platforms increased from 423 to 1,089.

The proposal submitted to the Railway Board, Delhi, on July 6 through DG&IGP and state chief secretary mooted that the strength of the sanctioned staff be increased to 1,500. It sought an addition of 16 sub-inspectors, 81 assistant sub-inspectors, 156 head constables and 604 constables.

The proposal pointed out that the state GRP has one constable for 4.27 km of railway track. They have to guard 3,782 km length of railway tracks. Their staff strength is less when compared with GRP staff strength in other states. Neighbouring Andhra Pradesh has one constable for 1.98 km; Kerala has one for 2.1 km and Tamil Nadu has one for 2.6 km.

Owing to the heavy work pressure, the crime detection has drastically come down. In 1997, the level of crime detection was 17.69%, but in 2011, it is down to 7.41%. In 1997, 406 criminal cases were registered, whereas in 2011, it increased to 672. The GRP has been ineffective in preventing many property offences and other crimes in the trains, along tracks and railway stations.
The proposal observed that railway stations have become a den of wandering mendicants, beggars, destitute persons, prostitutes, eunuchs, anti-social elements and ragpickers. The presence of such people creates fear in the minds of public, especially women and children, it added.

Law and order issues such as bandhs, strikes, rail-rokos cause inconvenience to the travelling public. Due to lack of GRP staff, they are not able to effectively intervene and prevent such incidents. These activities throw railways’ schedule out of gear and adversely affect revenue, the proposal noted.

Source: http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/re...worked_1724506

[pavan9741650414]

One site for travel between Hubli and Katra

If you want to go from Hubli in North Karnataka to Katra near Vaishno Devi, you will probably have to book multiple tickets through various agents.

But this may change if travel site Travelyaari.com has its way.

“We have approached the railway authorities and once we get the APIs (application programming interface, which allows programmers to access the functionality of software modules), we can enable this in the next three to six months,” said Aurvind Lama, co-founder and Director of the company.

Today, some body from Hubli will have to book a train or a bus from Hubli to Bangalore, take a train to Delhi, and then go from there to Katra by bus or train. This may involve two private bus operators based out of Hubli and Delhi. Lama, whose company makes ERP (enterprise resource planning) software for bus agents said that once the API functionality is provided by the Indian Railway Catering and Tourism Corporation Ltd, a traveller can directly book all the required tickets for the journey.

While travel agents can do some work in connecting you, the options are currently limited, said Lama. “Today, a travel agent has to do it manually, but with the new system, if you say that you want a ticket from Hubli to Katra, you are given all options automatically without any manual intervention.”

Lama said that this will imply more operators in smaller towns and Travelyaari.com is increasing its operator base from the current 700 to 1,200 by March next year. He said that his company, which has a turnover of around Rs 110 crore as of the year ended March, may touch Rs 250 crore by March next year.

According to the World Bank, India’s roads carry almost 90 per cent of the country’s passenger traffic. As of 2009, India’s rail track length was 63,327 km, while the length of roads was 35.16 lakh km, of which main roads account for 6.66 lakh km.

Source: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...cle3734880.ece

[mangalore mania]

I dont understand what is this discussion of KSK here.. Everytime Hundikamath gives a valid explanation, Dr Yaqoob, Sunderk drag the issue to other point and make things complicate here. Thanks for Kamath giving such a nice detailed explanation with so much of patience..
Karnataka Sampark Kranthi I had travelled once to Hyderabad from Yeswantpur. According to me that is the best train to go Hyderabad and further to north. It will reach you destination in the shortest time.
Its only your jealousy towards AP is dragging you to this issue. The same is the case for Mangaloreans..
Actually for Mangaloreans the problem is tickets for Mumbai and Bangalore..
New Delhi we have sufficient quotas in different trains including Rajdhani.

And as far as Hubli is concerned, Hubli has Zonal as well as divisional HQ, They can propose and start a train to Hubli whenever there is a demand of one full train to New Delhi. If they had demand why would they not introduce. Same with the case of Mangalore and Mysore the other two major cities of Karnataka..

[sunder.k]

Originally Posted by mangalore mania

I dont understand what is this discussion of KSK here.. Everytime Hundikamath gives a valid explanation, Dr Yaqoob, Sunderk drag the issue to other point and make things complicate here. Thanks for Kamath giving such a nice detailed explanation with so much of patience..
Karnataka Sampark Kranthi I had travelled once to Hyderabad from Yeswantpur. According to me that is the best train to go Hyderabad and further to north. It will reach you destination in the shortest time.
Its only your jealousy towards AP is dragging you to this issue. The same is the case for Mangaloreans..
Actually for Mangaloreans the problem is tickets for Mumbai and Bangalore..


New Delhi we have sufficient quotas in different trains including Rajdhani.



And as far as Hubli is concerned, Hubli has Zonal as well as divisional HQ, They can propose and start a train to Hubli whenever there is a demand of one full train to New Delhi. If they had demand why would they not introduce. Same with the case of Mangalore and Mysore the other two major cities of Karnataka..

We are looking globally( i.e Karnataka in total) , not confining to Mangaluru or Bengaluru. The same Rajadhani's pass through karnataka only for 60 km 3 days a week. If you are satisfied with what Mangaluru has, it is fine. But think about the other cities and towns which also need to prosper. Even Mangaluru does not have direct connectivity to Hubli/Belagaum/Bijapur/Gulbarga/Raichur. Still you are happy!!! Great!!!

Just because it was useful for you to reach Hyderabad in less time, retaining KSK through Hyd is not correct. The purpose of KSK,Rajadhani exps is not only to connect Bengaluru to Hyderabad, but to connect Karnataka to Delhi.

Just look at other neighbouring states and learn how to demand and extract maximum from railways.

Eg-

1)Chennai-Madurai-492km- No. of express trains per day-10

Fastest train runs in 7 hrs 45 min. Avg speed of trains- 65 kmph

Compare it with our Bengaluru-Hubli- no of trains- 5 max. Fastest train runs in 7hrs 15 min, but avg speed is abysmally low at 50kmph

2)Vijayawada- Hyderabad-361 km-No of trains-14

Gentlemen, common. Wake up!! We have more trains to Hyderabad from Bengaluru than to Hubli. What a paradox???

It is not KSK or Rajadhani alone that is being discussed. It is karnataka as a whole. Hope you get my point

[hemanth1987]

Originally Posted by sunder.k

We are looking globally( i.e Karnataka in total) , not confining to Mangaluru or Bengaluru. The same Rajadhani's pass through karnataka only for 60 km 3 days a week. If you are satisfied with what Mangaluru has, it is fine. But think about the other cities and towns which also need to prosper. Even Mangaluru does not have direct connectivity to Hubli/Belagaum/Bijapur/Gulbarga/Raichur. Still you are happy!!! Great!!!

Just because it was useful for you to reach Hyderabad in less time, retaining KSK through Hyd is not correct. The purpose of KSK,Rajadhani exps is not only to connect Bengaluru to Hyderabad, but to connect Karnataka to Delhi.

Just look at other neighbouring states and learn how to demand and extract maximum from railways.

Eg-

1)Chennai-Madurai-492km- No. of express trains per day-10

Fastest train runs in 7 hrs 45 min. Avg speed of trains- 65 kmph

Compare it with our Bengaluru-Hubli- no of trains- 5 max. Fastest train runs in 7hrs 15 min, but avg speed is abysmally low at 50kmph

2)Vijayawada- Hyderabad-361 km-No of trains-14

Gentlemen, common. Wake up!! We have more trains to Hyderabad from Bengaluru than to Hubli. What a paradox???

It is not KSK or Rajadhani alone that is being discussed. It is karnataka as a whole. Hope you get my point

Hubli has total 9pairs of Daily trains and 3tri-weekly trains. What were ur MPs doing all these days. Only we hear once in 6or8 months asking for new trains and no voice at all. Hubli is Div HQ but still why Hubli is not getting trains is People are not demanding. How mysore has 18pairs of trains is people Keep Demanding every now n then. Shortly another pair will be added. Why Lie over rakes are run towards Kochuveli or TN because their people put pressure on MPs and they Lobby. Similarly u also put pressure and ask for introduction for more trains than asking to reroute. Yes i am also a kannadiga who stayed in mangalore, mysore and now in bangalore and Started liking trains more than books, or any other games. I want all regions to have equal number of trains. Demand our SWR Rajdhani with new LHB rake to go via Hubli. Ask for a new train frokm hubli to Delhi via Gadag,Bijapur,Hotgi,Solapur. If u reroute KSK via Hubli it will neither fulfil your people nor Banglore People. Once Bidar-Gulbarga route is completed Karnataka Exp, KSK Exp & SWR Rajdhani may get reouted via Bidar,Purna,Akola(Loco change) itarsi to Delhi.

[hemanth1987]

Originally Posted by sunder.k

Just to give an eg-The Tamilnadu Sampark Kranthi exp runs between Madurai and Nizamuddin. The shortest route to Delhi from Madurai is through Dindugal, Salem, Bengaluru/Baiyappanahalli, Hyderabad and Kazipet. But the MPs of Tamilnadu have ensured that it runs via Chennai so that maximum no. of people in Tamilnadu are benefitted.

Not that the traffic between Madurai, Dindugal, Karur and Salem to Delhi is insufficient to fill the train. And not that Chennai is dependent on this train substantially for it to necessarily run through Chennai.

The distance between Madurai and Delhi via Chennai is 100Km shorter than going via Salem and Dindigal-Salem-Bangalore is single non electrified line. Distance between Madurai-Banglore is 480KM while Madurai-Chennai is 494KM. If train needs to go via Salem,Banglore then it will be 100KM more and Train has to use Diesel loco upto Hyderabad and Electric uptop Delhi and Dindigal-Banglore-Hyderabad is single line. Hence Madurai-Delhi SK Exp goes via Villupuram,Chennai as it is Double line in most parts and can run in Electric upto Delhi and reduces 100KM than going via Salem, and its not ministers lobby or something else.

Originally Posted by sunder.k

Hemanth,
No point in justifying non running of trains through major towns of karnataka. If run through Guntakal-Raichur-Gulbarga and Bidar,( once the line between Bidar and Gulbarga is ready) KSK will save at least a 100 km and thereby further reduce the time by 2 more hours. It is better we make it run through cities/towns of karnataka which would be easily possible to correct their course with a representation. Now with trains going through Andhra, their MPs being more powerful and influential, they will not allow any change per se in present or in future.

As far as trains from Mangaluru are concerned, except the Ernakulam-Pune weekly exp, none of them touch Londa, Belagaum, Miraj which would benefit people of NW karnataka.

Going by your logic, they should have had the train through the route that I have mentioned above, but it is not so.

Let us stick to what we want- we want trains through many cities of Karnataka and that is all is the need of the hour.

Sampark Kranti Express trains were operated by the Indian Railways to provide quick connectivity from a particular state or State Capitals to the national capital and had Non-stop run beyond the state. These are bi-weekly or Tri-weeklly trains. But Later as some Sampark Kranti Exp had poor patronage commercial stops were added at major cities outside state, and Kerala Sampark Kranti Exp was further extended to Chandigarh from Delhi. But in case of KSK via Hyderabad it is most preferred train, after KSK seats fill up Karnataka exp is preferred. I am not against rerouting, i have just said my views and Railway Board will Decide on it.

[mangalore mania]

Originally Posted by sunder.k

We are looking globally( i.e Karnataka in total) , not confining to Mangaluru or Bengaluru. The same Rajadhani's pass through karnataka only for 60 km 3 days a week. If you are satisfied with what Mangaluru has, it is fine. But think about the other cities and towns which also need to prosper. Even Mangaluru does not have direct connectivity to Hubli/Belagaum/Bijapur/Gulbarga/Raichur. Still you are happy!!! Great!!!

Just because it was useful for you to reach Hyderabad in less time, retaining KSK through Hyd is not correct. The purpose of KSK,Rajadhani exps is not only to connect Bengaluru to Hyderabad, but to connect Karnataka to Delhi.

Just look at other neighbouring states and learn how to demand and extract maximum from railways.

Eg-

1)Chennai-Madurai-492km- No. of express trains per day-10

Fastest train runs in 7 hrs 45 min. Avg speed of trains- 65 kmph

Compare it with our Bengaluru-Hubli- no of trains- 5 max. Fastest train runs in 7hrs 15 min, but avg speed is abysmally low at 50kmph

2)Vijayawada- Hyderabad-361 km-No of trains-14

Gentlemen, common. Wake up!! We have more trains to Hyderabad from Bengaluru than to Hubli. What a paradox???

It is not KSK or Rajadhani alone that is being discussed. It is karnataka as a whole. Hope you get my point

I have one single question..
Do you have problem in getting tickets to New Delhi..?

And as far as Mangalore is concerned.. Our voice will be of no use until Mangalore is in Southern Railway.. Ask your babus to get it to SWR and earn more Freight income of NMPT.. Our ministers are waste they are all good to wake up only during election and hypnotize chaps like you. For meaningless demands..

[hemanth1987]

Originally Posted by mangalore mania

And as far as Mangalore is concerned.. Our voice will be of no use until Mangalore is in Southern Railway.. Ask your babus to get it to SWR and earn more Freight income of NMPT.. Our ministers are waste they are all good to wake up only during election and hypnotize chaps like you. For meaningless demands..

+1
They should demand for more trains between our own cities in karnataka, like from banglore to hubli,bijapur, shimoga, Manglore than to delhi as it will help more northis to come here.

[DrYaqoob]

Originally Posted by mangalore mania

I dont understand what is this discussion of KSK here.. Everytime Hundikamath gives a valid explanation, Dr Yaqoob, Sunderk drag the issue to other point and make things complicate here.

Karnataka Sampark Kranthi I had travelled once to Hyderabad from Yeswantpur. According to me that is the best train to go Hyderabad and further to north. It will reach you destination in the shortest time.
Its only your jealousy towards AP is dragging you to this issue. The same is the case for Mangaloreans..

My dear friend....Sahil

Dont jump into conclusions so early .....its a debate here and we asking for the trains which should cater the Karnataka not AP (as u r working in Hyd so u may need this train ......

Those people not understanding the others inconvinience should keep quite and let this debate continue.... )

Bangalore/ Hyd has got number of trains to Delhi and KSKs are started to cater particular state and state capital.....we are not asking them to start it from Hubli ....we are asking them to re-route via hubli becos this train passes through Karnataka.....Major Reasons

* There is no single daily train to national capital on these routes....except Swarna Jayanthi which is a weekly train from Mysore ,Vasco-Nizamuddin Link / Goa Express and twice a week Samparka Kranti Express.


*People / Businessmen from Birur/Chickmagalur/Shimoga/Dvg/Harihar/Haveri/Hubli/Gadag/Belgaum and even Tumkur could be benefited from this train....

Originally Posted by hemanth1987

Hubli has total 9pairs of Daily trains and 3tri-weekly trains...
What were ur MPs doing all these days.....

Hubli is Div HQ but still why Hubli is not getting trains is People are not demanding.

How mysore has 18pairs of trains is people Keep Demanding every now n then. Shortly another pair will be added.

Once Bidar-Gulbarga route is completed Karnataka Exp, KSK Exp & SWR Rajdhani may get reouted via Bidar,Purna,Akola(Loco change) itarsi to Delhi.....

Please Note :

KSK was meant to cover maximum possible distance in the originating state and stop at various stations. After leaving the state border it was supposed to run non-stop. However, people's happiness was short lived as they learnt that the Sampark Kranti circumvented Karnataka and it was more convenient to the people of Andhra Pradesh than those in north Karnataka. While the trian runs from Bangalore to New Delhi via Hubli-Dharwad- Belgaum only twice a week, on remaining four days it runs through Andhra Pradesh.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...ti-yeshwantpur


Mys-Shirdi Weekly Exp
Mys-Chamrajnagar Daily Passenger
Mys-Birur Daily Passenger
Mys-Shravanabelagola Daily Passenger

No Single train was announced for Hubli Divn (Being Hq of SWR)...Is the Centre not Biased towards Old Mysore Region....?

Mr Hemanth we fought for SWR ....and we got it inspite of Our own PM was in favour of Bangalore....This whats happening @ Delhi (SMK/KHM) too lobbying for Bangalore / Mysore.

We are demanding Single Daily overnight train to Mumbai and Pune since many years but Hubli being...Hq of SWR cant even have single train to the commercial capital of india.

Dharwad-Belgaum New line too is delayed....why ?

We the people of actual karnataka (not Bangalore) should make them re-route KSK via Tumkur-Dvg-Hubli-Bgm.....

[sunder.k]

Originally Posted by mangalore mania

I have one single question..
Do you have problem in getting tickets to New Delhi..?

And as far as Mangalore is concerned.. Our voice will be of no use until Mangalore is in Southern Railway.. Ask your babus to get it to SWR and earn more Freight income of NMPT.. Our ministers are waste they are all good to wake up only during election and hypnotize chaps like you. For meaningless demands..

I am not sure who is hypnotized. A person content with no direct train from Mangalore to Hubli/Belgaum/Bijapur from Mangalore and who is still happy should be the person who has been hypnotized. God save Karnataka!!! (this debate had started even before the politicians' dharna and dont think people are insane)


We are indeed demanding Mangalore to be brought under SWR. If people like you dont support, forget about Mangalore being shifted, even Bengaluru can be attached with SCR. As it is, Bengaluru is serving as a terminal station for trains to Andhra and nothing more.

The pain of not having a train connectivity thereby hindering economic progress can be seen the way Bijapur is backward even after project unigauge.

[sunil.kulkarni]

Originally Posted by DrYaqoob

My dear friend....Sahil

Dr Saab, your demands are valid, but if you think of bigger picture, the best way to handle this is to ask for another train via Tumkur-Hubli-BJP-SUR route... bcz people who want to travel to Delhi quickly(from Blr) would not want to spend additional 5-8 hours which this route takes, so ideal way is to demand for new train from Bangalore to Delhi via this route... re-routing is bad idea.... and you gain little in it.. so aim for big!!

[DrYaqoob]

Originally Posted by sunder.k

I am not sure who is hypnotized. A person content with no direct train from Mangalore to Hubli/Belgaum/Bijapur from Mangalore and who is still happy should be the person who has been hypnotized. God save Karnataka!!! (this debate had started even before the politicians' dharna and dont think people are insane)


We are indeed demanding Mangalore to be brought under SWR. If people like you dont support, forget about Mangalore being shifted, even Bengaluru can be attached with SCR. As it is, Bengaluru is serving as a terminal station for trains to Andhra and nothing more.

The pain of not having a train connectivity thereby hindering economic progress can be seen the way Bijapur is backward even after project unigauge.

+ 1

Mr Mania....is spoiling the debates.....

[DrYaqoob]

Special trains to Kolhapur from Tuesday

By Express News Service - HYDERABAD 07th August 2012 08:59 AM

The South Central Railway will run 10 special trains between Hyderabad and Kolhapur. Accordingly Train No. 07143 Hyderabad-Kolhapur special train will depart Hyderabad at 11.10 pm on Aug 7, 8, 9, 11 and 12 and will arrive Kolhapur at 10.45 pm the next day.

In the return direction, Train No. 07144 Kolhapur-Hyderabad special train will depart Kolhapur at 07.30 am on Aug 9, 10, 11, 13 and 14 and arrive Hyderabad at 06.45 am the next day.

En route, these special trains will stop at Begumpet, Sanatnagar, Lingampalli, Shankarpalli, Vikarabad, Tandur, Nawandgi, Kurgunta, Seram, Malkhaid Road, Chittapur, Nalwar, Yadgir, Narayanpet Road, Krishna, Raichur, Manthralaya Rd, Adoni, Guntakal, Bellary, Tornagallu, Hospet, Koppal, Gadag, Hubli Jn, Dharwad, Londa, Belgaum, Ghatprabha, Raybag, Kudachi, Miraj and Hatkanangale stations.

http://newindianexpress.com/cities/h...icle584536.ece

[mangalore mania]

Originally Posted by DrYaqoob

Dont jump into conclusions so early .....its a debate here and we asking for the trains which should cater the Karnataka not AP (as u r working in Hyd so u may need this train ......

Those people not understanding the others inconvinience should keep quite and let this debate continue.... )

I dint get to any conclusions.. This train runs full always from YPR and its serving the purpose.. demand for more train than diverting it.
I dont have any advantage through KSK. I am from Mangalore. It was only once I had to use it. Think of the people who want to travel from Bangalore to Delhi or Nagpur or Bohpal. Is it not the shortest route for them..Why would that train be diverted and put people in loss in terms of both time and cost.

And know one thing

You dont have any right to ask me to keep quite.. This forum is not only for you

[mangalore mania]

Originally Posted by sunil.kulkarni

Dr Saab, your demands are valid, but if you think of bigger picture, the best way to handle this is to ask for another train via Tumkur-Hubli-BJP-SUR route... bcz people who want to travel to Delhi quickly(from Blr) would not want to spend additional 5-8 hours which this route takes, so ideal way is to demand for new train from Bangalore to Delhi via this route... re-routing is bad idea.... and you gain little in it.. so aim for big!!

Yes asking for the seperate train is the only meaningful demand

[mangalore mania]

Originally Posted by DrYaqoob

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Mr Mania....is spoiling the debates.....

Oh common dude.. Get some sense.. Dont be in a fantasy world like those in Hyderabad Metro thread.. Be realistic.. Instead of asking to divert the existing running trains which are there from decades.. Ask a new one..

In case of YPR-Kannur express which was extended from Mangalore. We there are asking for the existing train to be re routed back to Karwar because we cant add more trains in that route as the Ghat section has limitation. Instead we could have asked new train there. Railways will always make profit daily in this route. And yes Bus lobby also comes in the picture

[devaraju]

Originally Posted by sunil.kulkarni

Dr Saab, your demands are valid, but if you think of bigger picture, the best way to handle this is to ask for another train via Tumkur-Hubli-BJP-SUR route... bcz people who want to travel to Delhi quickly(from Blr) would not want to spend additional 5-8 hours which this route takes, so ideal way is to demand for new train from Bangalore to Delhi via this route... re-routing is bad idea.... and you gain little in it.. so aim for big!!

I dont understand why you people are fighting here with lots of debates. All debates and demands in this forum will go deaf on SWR. Let them rename KSK which runs via AP as Delhi Sampark Kranti (DSK) and run another train via ASK, UBL as KSK

The thing here is train which is named as KSK should run in karnataka catering needs of Karnataka region and not AP.