Balt/Wash Baseball Thread...O's and Nats!!

[pfd103]

Originally Posted by Balmurfan

It was an exciting game, however, they need to do something with Britton!

Already done, he's gone.

Man these guys are winning in great fashion. What a great season. I expect we'll see high numbers this weekend, but will the fans sellout weekday games if we keep winning this month? I have to assume we'll see a jump as we approach 81 wins.

[Gsol]

Originally Posted by pfd103

Already done, he's gone.

Man these guys are winning in great fashion. What a great season. I expect we'll see high numbers this weekend, but will the fans sellout weekday games if we keep winning this month? I have to assume we'll see a jump as we approach 81 wins.

You should hear the fans here turning on their Yankees. This happens whenever a local team goes into a slump, like the Giants, Jets, Mets (who are actually bad). The baseball season is long and even good teams slump, the Yankees were impressive shooting up 10 games on the Os. Right now they are playing the Tigers who are hot at the moment. The Mariners were hot for a while until the Os cooled them off.

Who knows what will happen, looks like a photo finish come late September. But the Os are definately in the hunt, and refuse to quit. Last night's game was more typical of the Os in the beginning of the season when they fought from behind to win games that appeared out of reach. Hope the fans return. 15,000 for a team that could be play-off bound is awlful. By the time Hardy hit the home run a large portion of that 15k were listening on their car radios.

[rockin'.baltimorean]

in all due respect, I think there are 2 things we gotta' put in consideration....

One, there were 15,000 people last night because it was the middle of the workweek. Two, our home record isnt the greatest (we're either @ .500 or lurkin' somewhere near it).

i think the passion amongst the O's fanbase is alive & well, though! It's been 15 years since we've had a winner here, so I'm sure it's definitely gettin' some notice...

[micrip]

I was a bit disappointed by the crowd as well, but to put it in perspective, there were smaller crowds in 3 other places...Tampa Bay, Houston, and Oakland. Other places weren't much better...CWS only had about 22,000.

Seattle just not that interesting to the fans. KC isn't either, but crowds should be much better over the weekend.

I'm revising my prediction for the finish upward. I've been thinking 75-87. I'm now going with 82-80.

[Gsol]

Originally Posted by micrip

I was a bit disappointed by the crowd as well, but to put it in perspective, there were smaller crowds in 3 other places...Tampa Bay, Houston, and Oakland. Other places weren't much better...CWS only had about 22,000.

Seattle just not that interesting to the fans. KC isn't either, but crowds should be much better over the weekend.

I'm revising my prediction for the finish upward. I've been thinking 75-87. I'm now going with 82-80.

Since they have been doing better than .500 all season, and at their lowest point were three games over .500; if they just play at .500 the rest of the way, the Os will be 85-77. That is winning 26 of the remaining 52 games. If they win 31 more they are virtually garanteed a playoff spot. That would put them at 90-72, playing at .555. This is doable. Right now at .536 they are on pace to win 89 games.

[rockin'.baltimorean]

Originally Posted by micrip

I was a bit disappointed by the crowd as well, but to put it in perspective, there were smaller crowds in 3 other places...Tampa Bay, Houston, and Oakland...

Astros have the worst record in the majors, so they have a reason to have a small crowd. I think they're somethin' like 40-45 games under .500.

[micrip]

We need to start considering the remote possibilty of an Orioles-Nationals World Series! Where are all the Nats fans on here?

[rockin'.baltimorean]

agreed. Nats have the best record in the majors!

[pfd103]

Originally Posted by rockin'.baltimorean

agreed. Nats have the best record in the majors!

I'd take it. O's are 4-2 against them this year, right? If we switched divisions, I think we'd have the best record in baseball and they'd be in 3rd place a few games out of the wildcard.

[Gsol]

Seems like the Orioles can not win more than five in a row. The won 5 several times, but the sixth remains elusive. Hope they can get back to winning tomorrow.

[en1044]

Originally Posted by pfd103

I'd take it. O's are 4-2 against them this year, right? If we switched divisions, I think we'd have the best record in baseball and they'd be in 3rd place a few games out of the wildcard.

Don't get ahead of yourself. Baltimore isn't the team that the Nats are.

Nats pitching would do quite nicely against the AL East.

[micrip]

Notice I said "remote possibility"! I will concede the Nats are better.

[RavensFan0606]

BIG SERIES this week vs. the basement-lurking Boston Red Sox. This is a HUGE 3 game set for the birds, which could have lots of meaning down the road.

IT'S MID-AUGUST PEOPLE. Get out there and support the birds! Let's Go O's!

[pfd103]

Originally Posted by en1044

Don't get ahead of yourself. Baltimore isn't the team that the Nats are.

Nats pitching would do quite nicely against the AL East.

The Nationals aren't the team the Orioles are. It's much easier in a weak division, along with playing the worst teams in baseball. 15 games since the all star game against Houston, Arizona, and Miami. 23 games against those teams plus the Cubs and Rockies in the first half. When they have to go against big clubs, they Struggle. 0-3 vs Yankees, 0-3 vs Dodgers, 2-3 vs the Pirates, and 2-4 against the O's. If they had to play Texas, the Angels, The White Sox, The Tigers, and even Tampa Bay (though they played well against them in a short set), the Nationals would find themselves with a depleted bullpen within weeks. The O's would fare better in a softer division, just as the Nationals would fare worse in a tougher one.

And for comparison sake, O's had 11 games since second half against bad teams, 15 in the first half (Cleveland, Seattle, Minnesota, and KC).

[en1044]

Originally Posted by pfd103

The Nationals aren't the team the Orioles are. It's much easier in a weak division, along with playing the worst teams in baseball. 15 games since the all star game against Houston, Arizona, and Miami. 23 games against those teams plus the Cubs and Rockies in the first half. When they have to go against big clubs, they Struggle. 0-3 vs Yankees, 0-3 vs Dodgers, 2-3 vs the Pirates, and 2-4 against the O's. If they had to play Texas, the Angels, The White Sox, The Tigers, and even Tampa Bay (though they played well against them in a short set), the Nationals would find themselves with a depleted bullpen within weeks. The O's would fare better in a softer division, just as the Nationals would fare worse in a tougher one.

And for comparison sake, O's had 11 games since second half against bad teams, 15 in the first half (Cleveland, Seattle, Minnesota, and KC).

You're delusional.

The Orioles can't so anything but hit home runs and hold leads with their bullpen. They can't get on base. Their starting pitching sucks.

Adam Jones is hitting almost .300 in the middle of the order and has yet to break 60 RBI. That's very telling.

The Orioles have been playing at about .500 since the end of April. The hot start to the season is pretty much the only reason why they're 10 games over .500 right now. Don't act like the Orioles are hot shit. They aren't. Hell, they can't even win a series against the Royals. Washington's run differential is +108. Baltimore's is -44. I'll say it again. -44. Terrible.

If you watch the Nationals on a regular basis, you'd see that they just have a quality about them that Baltimore doesn't. Don't give me that division nonsense. Good teams beat the teams they're supposed to beat.

[pfd103]

Originally Posted by en1044

You're delusional.

The Orioles can't so anything but hit home runs and hold leads with their bullpen. They can't get on base. Their starting pitching sucks.

Adam Jones is hitting almost .300 in the middle of the order and has yet to break 60 RBI. That's very telling.

The Orioles have been playing at about .500 since the end of April. The hot start to the season is pretty much the only reason why they're 10 games over .500 right now. Don't act like the Orioles are hot shit. They aren't. Hell, they can't even win a series against the Royals. Washington's run differential is +108. Baltimore's is -44. I'll say it again. -44. Terrible.

If you watch the Nationals on a regular basis, you'd see that they just have a quality about them that Baltimore doesn't. Don't give me that division nonsense. Good teams beat the teams they're supposed to beat.

Swing and a miss.

I get that you're not too much into the numbers (or baseball for that matter). Yes, our starting pitching isn't stellar against the more serious opponents that we have to face day in and day out. Again, if the Nationals had our schedule, they'd be doing much worse.

We're 8-4 in August. Our hot start was negated by a soft June. We're where we are because our second half has been good. One series split against the royals doesn't equate to a worth of a team. If "Good teams beat the teams they're supposed to beat", then why are the nationals 3-4 against Colorado? Because it's baseball. Washington's run differential is so high because....wait for it...you play soft opponents day in and day out. You've added 23 runs to that total over the last 3 series by playing Arizona, Houston, and Miami. 3 of the worst teams in baseball.

I watch the Nationals several times a week. I don't see a team that can beat the Yankees or Texas. I see one that looks great against crap teams, then blows it when they try to stand up against the Orioles.

[pfd103]

Originally Posted by en1044

You're delusional.
Adam Jones is hitting almost .300 in the middle of the order and has yet to break 60 RBI. That's very telling.

You know what's even more telling. Adam Jones ranks 6th in OWAR, yet no Nationals player is even in the top 48.

[rockin'.baltimorean]

we're 10 games over .500!! Woohoo!!!

[pfd103]

Originally Posted by rockin'.baltimorean

we're 10 games over .500!! Woohoo!!!

Now the question arises; Do we see Bundy this season, or do we buy/promote someone else? If so, in relief or as a starter?

[en1044]

Originally Posted by pfd103

Swing and a miss.

I get that you're not too much into the numbers (or baseball for that matter). Yes, our starting pitching isn't stellar against the more serious opponents that we have to face day in and day out. Again, if the Nationals had our schedule, they'd be doing much worse.

We're 8-4 in August. Our hot start was negated by a soft June. We're where we are because our second half has been good. One series split against the royals doesn't equate to a worth of a team. If "Good teams beat the teams they're supposed to beat", then why are the nationals 3-4 against Colorado? Because it's baseball. Washington's run differential is so high because....wait for it...you play soft opponents day in and day out. You've added 23 runs to that total over the last 3 series by playing Arizona, Houston, and Miami. 3 of the worst teams in baseball.

I watch the Nationals several times a week. I don't see a team that can beat the Yankees or Texas. I see one that looks great against crap teams, then blows it when they try to stand up against the Orioles.

I'm an Orioles fan dude. Don't call me a Nats fan.

Adam Jones doesn't have more RBI because no one gets on base in front of him. I don't care what the stats are. I know he's a good player.

The Orioles have also recent lost or split series with Minnesota, Tampa and Oakland. So they can't beat the good teams or the bad teams consistently. At least the Nats can beat the bad teams like they're supposed to.

You're also really, really downplaying the importance that a good starting pitching staff has for a team. That's why they're better. Pitching. And save the "they haven't played anyone" argument. I don't care. They're taking care of business.

I'm not off my rocker delusional because the team is having a semi decent year. Lets be realistic.