QATAR - FIFA World Cup 2022

[nomarandlee]

Originally Posted by masterpaul

Your talking about a country thats way safer then USA will ever be, it doesnt have batman shootings, it doesnt have school shootings.

Quatar is good enough to host the world cup, weather or not it should had done it alone is a different matter.

What a very cheap and lame reply.

You also think that Brazil and South Africa don't deserve to be WC host I presume? Perhaps you should go hide in your closet.

[masterpaul]

Originally Posted by nomarandlee

What a very cheap and lame reply.

You also think that Brazil and South Africa don't deserve to be WC host I presume? Perhaps you should go hide in your closet.

Why don't you go back into your wardrobe, hopefully it will fall over.

Did I ever say they dont deserve it? Frankly Brazil is hosting it in 2014, and South Africa hosted it in 2010, and they deserved it.

[Alrayyan]

Originally Posted by nomarandlee

What a very cheap and lame reply.

You also think that Brazil and South Africa don't deserve to be WC host I presume? Perhaps you should go hide in your closet.

And who gave you the authority to denounce people's opinions as cheap or lame?

As a matter of fact his comment is damn true, this is by far one of the safest countries in the world on so many cases. In this case referring to shootings, fights, protests and even terrorism.

And his comment was not in anyways stating that South Africa and Brazil are not credible hosts... just stating that safety is as always a concern.

[Calvin W]

Originally Posted by Alrayyan

And who gave you the authority to denounce people's opinions as cheap or lame?

As a matter of fact his comment is damn true, this is by far one of the safest countries in the world on so many cases. In this case referring to shootings, fights, protests and even terrorism.

And his comment was not in anyways stating that South Africa and Brazil are not credible hosts... just stating that safety is as always a concern.

Because everyone is scared they will be beheaded or thrown in jail for life for minor misgivings by most countries standards?

[Walbanger]

Exactly, Draconian Laws will do that to a country. It's like being a good child because of a well versed sense of right and wrong as opposed to a child who's terrified into being good by brutally strick parents.

[Waqif_2012]

Originally Posted by Calvin W

Because everyone is scared they will be beheaded or thrown in jail for life for minor misgivings by most countries standards?

First sin in the history is the envy this topic discuss Qatar World Cup Stadiums and it is projects if we will talk about beheaded located only in your imagination or any other points we will not add anything to this subject and we will find people talking in London topic about eavesdrop on British Muslims phone calls or being killed in UK streets for being an Arab as happened to the Qatari student Mohammed al-Majed for example but not limited to. no country is perfect If you cant restrain your envy at least do not let it to burn you.

I liked Mr Obama speech about Qatar world cup he accepted the defeat with a spirit of sports and asked for ticket

[nomarandlee]

Originally Posted by Alrayyan

And who gave you the authority to denounce people's opinions as cheap or lame?
.

I did! Its called the freedom to hold and express an opinion and judgement about others spiteful judgements and opinions. A right which isn't afforded in Qatar in a number of subjects so it may be a concept which you are a bit fuzzy on.

As a matter of fact his comment is damn true, this is by far one of the safest countries in the world on so many cases. In this case referring to shootings, fights, protests and even terrorism.

And it only takes a dictatorial repressive monarchy to achieve all this.

Qatar scoring well in other areas doesn't make other nations too deficient in those areas to consider hosting.

And his comment was not in anyway's stating that South Africa and Brazil are not credible hosts... just stating that safety is as always a concern.

In being a petty and cheap towards the US he in turn threw Brazil and South African under the bus regardless if it was inadvertent or not.

[Waqif_2012]

Originally Posted by nomarandlee

A right which isn't afforded in Qatar in a number of subjects so it may be a concept which you are a bit fuzzy on.

And it only takes a dictatorial repressive monarchy to achieve all this.

Al-Rayyan you should learn democracy from who manage Guantanamo, usurpers prisoners, urinating on the bodies, burning books and beliefs, killing innocent in theaters and schools, Arrogance and talk as if you advisor in the wrong place and make people laugh at you as laugh at Jim Carrey.

[Alrayyan]

Originally Posted by Waqif_2012

Al-Rayyan you should learn democracy from who manage Guantanamo, usurpers prisoners, urinating on the bodies, burning books and beliefs, killing innocent in theaters and schools, Arrogance and talk as if you advisor in the wrong place and make people laugh at you as laugh at Jim Carrey.

c'est la vie démocratique...

[Purple Dreams]

Generally the world cup atmosphere is very laid back and festive. I wonder how that'll work out in Qatar

[Gadiri]

Is that true ? New scrutin ? I seek in others sites and they don't talk about new scrutin.

FIFA says will probe Qatar 2022 bid

By Sara Anabtawi Monday, 27 August 2012 12:10 PM

The newly-appointed joint chief investigator of FIFA's Ethics Committee said Qatar's winning bid for the World Cup 2022 event will come under new scrutiny, AFP reported.

American Michael Garcia told German television that the awarding of the football tournament to the Gulf state, along with Germany and Russia's successful bids for the 2006 and 2018 events, will be probed by the committee.

Qatar overcame bids by the US and South Korea to win the right to host the 2022 World Cup. It will be the first time the tournament has even been hosted in the Middle East.

The decision to allow Qatar to host the tournament has drawn criticism over issues ranging from searing summer temperatures in the Gulf country, to labour rights and alcohol sales.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/fifa-...ml?tab=Article

[PrevaricationComplex]

Nothing will happen, FIFA are investigating themselves. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how that will end.

FIFA are effectively run by third worlder's, and third worlder's don't care about corruption. It's pretty much a way of life for them. The only time they get offended by corruption is when they get accused of it, and even then it's the accusation they take offence to, not the actual corruption.

I don't care about the world cup anymore, only interested in the champions league as a way of looking at the pinnacle of football. I'm sure many westerners feel the same. I only feel sorry for Russia in this. They won the bid as fair as anyone else, but in the minds of most people they're going to be tarnished with this scandal.

Third worlder's have ruined international football.

[Walbanger]

The only problem with the 2018 bid was the disgusting display of pettiness in the Voting. England only getting 2 votes and knocked out in the first round was just juvenile behaviour from the FIFA exec. In no way does it mean that Russia was not worthy of winning the bid unlike Qatar 2022.

[alexmaz1]

oh my god, today i know this! i think they aren't thinking about this!

[Alrayyan]

Originally Posted by Gadiri

Is that true ? New scrutin ? I seek in others sites and they don't talk about new scrutin.



http://www.arabianbusiness.com/fifa-...ml?tab=Article

I don't think there is a point anymore, it's been almost 2 years since Qatar won the hosting rights, not to mention the hosting contract has already been signed, and contracts handed out for stadiums to be built.

[RobH]

Originally Posted by PrevaricationComplex

Nothing will happen, FIFA are investigating themselves. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how that will end.

Precisely.

[PrevaricationComplex]

Originally Posted by Walbanger

The only problem with the 2018 bid was the disgusting display of pettiness in the Voting. England only getting 2 votes and knocked out in the first round was just juvenile behaviour from the FIFA exec. In no way does it mean that Russia was not worthy of winning the bid unlike Qatar 2022.

That's pretty much what I said. I think we've got our wires crossed here, I'm more than willing to take responsibility for that, but can you explain what you meant?

However I'll clarify what I meant; the average person who doesn't follow these things closely thinks both bids are part of the same stink bomb. I think this is a shame because:

1) Russia will make a fantastic host and is a great place to visit.

2) Russia had a very competent and competitive bid and so far there is no evidence to show impropriety took place.

[Walbanger]

No wires crossed, I'm purely agreeing with you

[PrevaricationComplex]

Cool. The tone of the sentence I highlighted just came across as contrarian for some reason. No worries.

Originally Posted by Alrayyan

1) I don't think there is a point anymore, it's been almost 2 years since Qatar won the hosting rights...

2)... Not to mention the hosting contract has already been signed...

3)... Contracts handed out for stadiums to be built.

1) The statute of limitations for crimes to be prosecuted is longer than 2 years

2) Considering the lies that came from the Qatari bid (air conditioned stadia, being able to host in June/July), it's a bit rich for you to claim that punishing bribery is not possible because of upholding legal procedures of tort law. The words 'clutching' and 'straws' come to mind.

3) Neither our problem nor concern. You should have thought about that before Bin Hammam went along with this ridiculous scheme.

[RobH]

Originally Posted by PrevaricationComplex

That's pretty much what I said. I think we've got our wires crossed here, I'm more than willing to take responsibility for that, but can you explain what you meant?

However I'll clarify what I meant; the average person who doesn't follow these things closely thinks both bids are part of the same stink bomb. I think this is a shame because:

1) Russia will make a fantastic host and is a great place to visit.

2) Russia had a very competent and competitive bid and so far there is no evidence to show impropriety took place.

Pretty much agree.

There is, sadly though, plenty of evidence to suggest neither the 2018 nor the 2022 bid processes were run properly. That's not the fault of any of the bidders who were entering into FIFA's process with good intentions, but it does mean both victories are somewhat overshadowed by FIFA's incompetencies.

That's most likely unfair on Russia who as you say had a superb bid and were probably overdue a World Cup. But Qatar is such an absurd choice that even if they did win it fairly their victory is always going to be seen as a symptom of a sick FIFA in the death throes of Blatter's megalomania.

I did enjoy booing the old fool at Wembley a few weeks ago though. After which, of course, we saw the USA women receive their much deserved gold medals. Never before have I seen the best and worst of football in such stark relief.