*Gautrain* Rapid Rail Link

[mquti07]

THANK YOU

[Hennie]

Originally Posted by mquti07

hi, we are flying into jhb next week planing to take gautrrain to sandton as first timer
I have 2 quistions
1- can we board gautrain with our luggage
2- do we have to change train in sandton if we want to go pretoria

1. That is the only option.
2. You should change trains at Marlboro, go up the escalator and down again to the Pretoria bound platform. Ask, if you dont know. The security staff are numerous and very helpful and you will have about 6 minutes to change trains. In peak hour going to Sandton is probably the better option as the Pretoria trains are rather packed between 16:00 and 18:00 on week-days and the train will be emptier on Sandton than on Marlboro.

[mquti07]

how safe is it to walk from gautrain stop to redisson blu sandton hotel with my luggage

[makoppa]

Are you serious? It's right there.. What dorpie are you coming from.

[Lydon]

[Hennie]

Originally Posted by mquti07

how safe is it to walk from gautrain stop to redisson blu sandton hotel with my luggage

Depends on how well versed you are on the look-before-you-cross-a-busy-road procedure!

[mquti07]

i am not refering to radisson blu gautrain witch is across the road i stated radisson blu sandton which is as per google earth one block away (550 m)

[Nostra]

Very safe, Sandton is positively crawling with security at all hours.....

[Hennie]

Never carried luggage in Sandton other than a laptop bag (I used to work near Benmore) so walked about 1.5km sometimes after dark. Never had a problem.

At day-time Sandton is pretty safe. There are lots of tourists around. The biggest danger is a road accident. After dark you can always take a taxi.

[JoHaN 15]

I walk in Hatfield after dark and I feel perfectly safe so I see no reason whatsoever for you to feel unsafe in Sandton.

[Hennie]

Originally Posted by JoHaN 15

I walk in Hatfield after dark and I feel perfectly safe so I see no reason whatsoever for you to feel unsafe in Sandton.

I walk from 45 Commisioner street to 5 Simmonds street in the Joburg CBD most nights. I would not do that with luggage. Crime is not a major issue in Sandton and there are lots of people around at day time (many of which are obviously carrying valuable stuff). But to be totally ignorant of crime risk is unwise. Just because you have never been mugged in Hatfield (as I have never been mugged on a Metrorail train before which I used often) does not mean it cant happen. It happens to other people. Sometimes you are the other people.

[waltjie]

Originally Posted by mquti07

how safe is it to walk from gautrain stop to redisson blu sandton hotel with my luggage

If your luggage is Louis Vuitton you will do just fine.

[JoHaN 15]

Originally Posted by Hennie

I walk from 45 Commisioner street to 5 Simmonds street in the Joburg CBD most nights. I would not do that with luggage. Crime is not a major issue in Sandton and there are lots of people around at day time (many of which are obviously carrying valuable stuff). But to be totally ignorant of crime risk is unwise. Just because you have never been mugged in Hatfield (as I have never been mugged on a Metrorail train before which I used often) does not mean it cant happen. It happens to other people. Sometimes you are the other people.

Aren't there private guards stationed throughout Sandton? We have several guards from a private firm stationed around uni and the police also patrol the area regularly.

Yeah well I guess it's the same as arguing some people die in car accidents. No point in selling your car and going by foot every day

[Hennie]

Originally Posted by JoHaN 15

Aren't there private guards stationed throughout Sandton? We have several guards from a private firm stationed around uni and the police also patrol the area regularly.

Yeah well I guess it's the same as arguing some people die in car accidents. No point in selling your car and going by foot every day

No point in arguing that because I drive on average 40,000km every year, never had a major accident, never caused any accident in 31 years of driving I will therefore now never die in an accident.

To claim that because something bad had not ever happened to you and therefore it never will is over the top and just plain irresponsible. If I would apply that logic to my long driving career it will be best to sell the car and walk.

To accept, acknowledge and manage risk keeps you a long way from harm, the other side of the coin is arrogance which leads to accidents.

To return to the luggage issue: A person carrying Louis Vuitton bag and who are aware of his surroundings will be safer than the person with a cheap bag who assume it will 'never happen to him'.

[Frantic777]

Lol Hatfield is no longer safe at night. You must be missing all the murders and muggings happening there to students.

[JoHaN 15]

So that's what's happened to all my fellow mechanics class mates. They've been murdered. Here I thought they only skipped class due to the crappy lecturer. Silly me.

Must enroll with Unisa. Can't even get to Tuks without being mugged twice.

[mquti07]

we have just finished our 5 days visit to sandton on 23th of aug and it was fantastic
we enjoyed walking to gautrain from radisson blu sandton twice aday every day of our trip morning and evning time around 7:30 no problom what so ever we felt as safe as any where in the wourld I really don't understand WHY people magnify the saftey issue

thanks for Ron2k, dysan1, hennie, nostra and johan15

[ToxicBunny]

Originally Posted by mquti07

we have just finished our 5 days visit to sandton on 23th of aug and it was fantastic
we enjoyed walking to gautrain from radisson blu sandton twice aday every day of our trip morning and evning time around 7:30 no problom what so ever we felt as safe as any where in the wourld I really don't understand WHY people magnify the saftey issue

thanks for Ron2k, dysan1, hennie, nostra and johan15

Awesome to hear that dude..

Have any photos of the trip that you want to share with us?

[Pule]

Originally Posted by mquti07

we have just finished our 5 days visit to sandton on 23th of aug and it was fantastic
we enjoyed walking to gautrain from radisson blu sandton twice aday every day of our trip morning and evning time around 7:30 no problom what so ever we felt as safe as any where in the wourld I really don't understand WHY people magnify the saftey issue

thanks for Ron2k, dysan1, hennie, nostra and johan15

Hey buddy...I was not aware that you around...we could have had coffee...I'm working in the vicinity...

[Project Director]

No quick fix for Gautrain ‘megaclaim’ as Bombela, govt gather global experts




By: Irma Venter

30th August 2012

Updated 31 minutes ago


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The delay and disruption claim the Bombela consortium had filed against the Gauteng government regarding the Gautrain project was unlikely to be “settled in the short term”, said Murray & Roberts CEO Henry Laas on Thursday.

Murray & Roberts is a member of the Bombela consortium, which built, and was now operating the R26.4-billion Gautrain rapid rail system on government's behalf.

Bombela had submitted its statement of case regarding the delay and disruption it said it had experienced in construction work on the public-private partnership project, as well as related disputes, to the Gauteng government on July 29, 2011.

The consortium said one of the issues was, for example, that the land on which construction had to take place was not provided by the province as scheduled.

Laas said the arbitration case was a complex one, with global expert witnesses being gathered on Bombela’s, as well as the provincial government’s side.

He noted that the claim was “a megaclaim”, “with not hundreds of millions, but billions of rands at play here”.

Laas said Murray & Roberts was focused on resolving the claim by December 2014.

Arbitration on another, smaller case regarding the Gautrain was scheduled for September.

This case related to the volume of water ingress in the tunnel between the Rosebank and Park stations, which had delayed the opening of this leg of the route from August last year to June this year.

Laas said it was “common knowledge” that the Gauteng government and Bombela viewed the water matter differently.

Even through arbitration on the matter was scheduled for September, Laas only expected a ruling at the end of this year.

“We are confident we have a reasonable case.”

However, he warned that the outcome was not certain, and that there could still be “a potential cost risk to Murray & Roberts”.

Another major project where Murray & Roberts had to turn to arbitration in recent months, had been the troubled Gorgon Pioneer material offloading facility (GPMOF), in Australia.

The cash outlay of more than R2-billion on the project over the past 16 months represented one of the largest single cash losses for the company in recent times.

However, Laas said on Thursday that arbitration rulings on the first three disputes over the GPMOF, relating primarily to scope changes from the tendered design, had been awarded in its favour.

He said the quantum of restitution would be determined through further arbitration, and that the company could “see cash flow” during November or December 2012.

Laas said he expected more disputes on the GPMOF project to be ruled in Murray & Roberts’ favour now that the company has won the design dispute.

“What we built was different from what we tendered,” he noted.


http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/art...rts-2012-08-30


going to be interesting to see who wins this case.....M@R always good at manufacturing their tenders after the horse has bolted.