Chennai discussions II

[iaafosc]

sad state of affairs indeed...I hope things change over a period of time and more eligible leaders come forth.

One example of such a person i would like to highlight is Sarathbabu Elumalai , the IIM graduate. I hope more people come up like him in TN politics. I hope he does not give up politics.The initial stages may always be disillusioning, as he stands up against decades of conditioned dravidian (mis)rule.

[jaish]

Licit with due respect to you what is misrule by dravidian parties that you are referring to?

[Licit Mortal]

Originally Posted by jaish

Licit with due respect to you what is misrule by dravidian parties that you are referring to?

Firstly, I did not use the word MISRULE. Secondly, yes I do not want to see just these two dravidian parties dominating the political scene in TN. It is only making them stronger and feeding their arrogance. The entire city of Chennai in almost every industry is controlled by the DMK party chief's family. The situation is no way different in Madurai. Tell me one area where there is no corruption, nepotism and inefficiency in planning end execution and where the dravidian party and its family members don't have an upper hand!

The very signature that you have in your profile was told by Annadurai around 1950-1960. How many ezhaigal are genuinely smiling today in 2012? Only the dravidan parties and its members are smiling by keeping the poor man as poor and divided as they can. How many villages in TN have you been to and how many poor farmers have you spoken to? Speak to them and you will know how disappointed and cheated they feel every time after either of the dravidian parties come to power.

More than that, I do not want bloody film stars to be politicians when they do not know anything about management, administration and the cultural history and potential of the state. If you cannot understand what I have written or if you are the greatest fan of dravidian parties, just ignore my message and have a chilled drink.

[krishnaswamy]

Originally Posted by Licit Mortal

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While the state has managed to successfully separate caste and politics to a larger degree compared to other states, it still struggles to come out of the spells of the two dravidian wizards. If only TN could come out of this spell and bring out a political system only on the basis of merits, she would make a significant contribution to new age India and change the political scene of the entire nation.

Cheers

Excellent Sir...but TN is moving in that direction. We go by the comparisons and select the better evil at that time for the last 5 Elections.
TN, voting % is increased. lot of middle class people are coming to vote which is a very good sign. if this move, will get alternative parties are not, but focus of these 2 Dravidian parties should move towards development and delivery, due to high voting %.

Development is happening, but the cost is high, due to high corruption.

[jaish]

I feel In India democracy has not yet matured it is because huge population in different strata, different aspiration and with Huge Young population. Media has not matured due to huge competition and huge stake involved they are playing to sensationalism rather than matured reporting.

IMO indian democracy is at cross roads, old though process of voting are giving way. Really We need people who knows the soul of India and promotes developmental programs with out promoting hatred among different community is required.

One Thing that we should all know in Democracy is that What Majority of People want they will get it. Good or bad is immaterial.

[vinodgopal]

Originally Posted by kannan infratech

Vinod Gopal,

Please let me know if you want to continue with this thread or can I merge with CD ?

It may die quickly even if we continue.

yes sir. please do me the honors merging the thread.

[vinodgopal]

Originally Posted by Licit Mortal

Thamizhukku nadakara karpazhippa kandu, meesai thudikardhaa, Kongu Thamizhaa? Enna seyya! Thamizhukku vandha izhivi kaalam idhu. Thudippa adakku raja adakku!

ada poo paa, Rajini appidi dhan 36 varushama pesararu, ippo ennamo perusa solla vandhutiye. Mohan Lal accent la pesi kaatava?

"Rejini, nammaloday idha sandhippu prakasamaitte neengal simbly suberb atlu thamizh pesuradhu!!"

we can mimic several artists that way

[vinodgopal]

Originally Posted by jaish

I feel In India democracy has not yet matured it is because huge population in different strata, different aspiration and with Huge Young population. Media has not matured due to huge competition and huge stake involved they are playing to sensationalism rather than matured reporting.

IMO indian democracy is at cross roads, old though process of voting are giving way. Really We need people who knows the soul of India and promotes developmental programs with out promoting hatred among different community is required.

One Thing that we should all know in Democracy is that What Majority of People want they will get it. Good or bad is immaterial.

NDTV flash news at 5.00 am - girl in bihar raped by 15 men for disrespecting their religion by not wearing a set of bangles

Now we have got commisioner of Police Chulbul Pandey live here

Mr.Pandey what do you think of this gang rape to the 16 year old Phoolan Devi living in no.5 Muzzafarpur road Kanpur Bihar?

Mr.Pandey: Naxals are behind it we are investigating.

At 12 noon same news same crap

At 8.00 pm - Flashnews 16 year old girl rape case, girl's 17 year old husband involved.

Anchor: Mr.Pandey now that the new evidence of the 17 year old Chandha Prasad Yadav the husband of Poolan Devi displayed in this picture living in Muzzafarpur road in Kanpur has confessed having allowed his 16 year old wife be raped by 15 people because she did not wear the bangle that is religiously required in her community. What do you think of this?

Mr.Pandey: Well they are married for 10 years now. They will have a better idea than us. We are investigating and like 1000000000000 cases of such rapes we will investigate upon this one also.

Next day the news flashes all day about Rahul Gandhi announcing his plan of a manned spacecraft to Jupitor

Isn't this the way how news channels work in india?

[ranga]

Best Indian cities: Survey
Twelve cities were measured in terms of their living parameters

In a Makaan IQ survey on Seven Top Indian Cities conducted across 1,104 respondents, 12 cities were measured on the basis of seven living parameters. The cities were Delhi/NCR, Mumbai, Bengaluru, Hyderabad, Chennai, Ahmedabad, Kolkata, Pune, Chandigarh, Kochi, Coimbatore, and Jaipur.
Bengaluru and Hyderabad topped the good population density category, with 20 per cent respondents each. Both have organised and planned societies and townships, which has decongested the urban area.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle3846232.ece

Bangaluru and Hyderabad topped good population density category with 20% respondents each? What does that mean as both cities have high density of population in the core part of the cities(decongested the urban area ???) and unorganised townships developments with poor connectivity. Unlike chennai respondents in other cities cover up inadequacies in their cities and give a glossy picture of their cities which are untrue.Makan.com is known for distorted and fake surveys.

[kannan infratech]

The major Difference between the top parties in TN

One Party - From State : 70% to Family, 25% to Kuru Nila Mannargal, 5% local cadres
From Centre : 100% to Family

Other Party : 80% to MM & family, 20% to Ministers & Cadres.

Big Old National Party : From Centre - 100% to THE FAMILY

Old Men Kakhi Dowser Party - Except in states they rule, what ever Pichchai handed over by the Big Old National Party to individuals.

We have to select the Best among this.

[kannan infratech]

I met a Dalit Leader of some repute yesterday. His concept & ideas were scary.

In TN, reserved seats are there in every district where only Dalits can contest. So they have approx 40+ MLAs for sure at any election.

The 2G King has become their leader and he will spend money for them irrespective of the party. But they have to be loyal only to him and Dalitism and not to their party.

Similarly they will have 8+ MPs. Same formula there also.

They will demand 15% of any Govt projects to be given to them or to companies referred by them from which ever party rules. Any party will need their support in elections.

Even the Siruthai & Dr have accepted this formula and 2G King as Leader.

In next 10 years, they will become the important group in TN Politics.

They feel that they can sustain for next 50 years comfortably with 2G King at the helm.

All the locked & frozen accounts have been allowed to operate by the Kadhar Veshti CG Minister. (aka Quotrochchi).

Dalit Leader's punch Line : Inime Yaarum Engalai Asachukka Mudiyadhu, Asachukka Mudiyadhu.

[kannan infratech]

Originally Posted by vinodgopal

yes sir. please do me the honors merging the thread.

Kalavi Over. Eppo Kozhandhai ?

[chennaidesi]

Originally Posted by kannan infratech

I met a Dalit Leader of some repute yesterday. His concept & ideas were scary.

In TN, reserved seats are there in every district where only Dalits can contest. So they have approx 40+ MLAs for sure at any election.

The 2G King has become their leader and he will spend money for them irrespective of the party. But they have to be loyal only to him and Dalitism and not to their party.

Similarly they will have 8+ MPs. Same formula there also.

They will demand 15% of any Govt projects to be given to them or to companies referred by them from which ever party rules. Any party will need their support in elections.

Even the Siruthai & Dr have accepted this formula and 2G King as Leader.

In next 10 years, they will become the important group in TN Politics.

They feel that they can sustain for next 50 years comfortably with 2G King at the helm.

All the locked & frozen accounts have been allowed to operate by the Kadhar Veshti CG Minister. (aka Quotrochchi).

Dalit Leader's punch Line : Inime Yaarum Engalai Asachukka Mudiyadhu, Asachukka Mudiyadhu.

All these parties will make sure people will never develop.

[Murali Bala]

One thing is very clear. None of them want to do anything for the public. I think a time has to come to erase these unscrupulous elements from Politics. Democracy has become a joke. How to bell this corrupt cats is the question.

[Chennaiguy]

I think the politicians will never change unless public get an awareness. So the key is they will not create an awareness among citizens. However there will be another force try to maintain a balance by trying their best to create an awareness. We shall appreciate Mr.Kannan and other core team in keeping the spirits of the team to keep on moving forward with the dreams. From this forum we can see how much this generation crave to see their country developed...How much time our forum members spend in taking photos collecting & sharing information..It shows they all really longing to see an improvement everywhere around them...Kudos to all the members.

How to bell the cat. Our Soceity not only needs a clean political organisation but also lack the well matured society with civic sense. Cleaning the politics will happen once the society gets more civic sense. Once we start following the rules and regulations, the nature of society will change and politicians will be forced to follow the trend..
There is lot of change than before,but the pace at which it happens need to be increased to see the India what we dreamt during our life time itself... We need more active groups doing things to create a civic sense..
For example,every area should create or form a group to monitor the activities around them. I mean how the traffic is happening,garbage is handled,roads are maintained and so on.. It is not fighting/Confront with the officials. i mean creating an awareness.. All we need to do is make plans and spend timing...
For instance, with respect to traffic assistance the group shall identify crucial areas in their area and with the assistance of officials shall create an awareness whoever misuse or break the rules..At least it will keep changing the minds of few among the group and result will be exponential.
I wish the same the shall be implemented in all other actions.

While doing this, keep on spreading an awareness to VOTE when elections are held.. Once the public start voting for their right representative,politics will clean by itself..

We need charismatic persons like Mr.Kannan to initiate and form such groups..and pass on the trend to others. Dependency on official to give whatever we want will never help our sort of society and we need to depend on our society for that..Persons like Mr.Kannan can bring enough media attention also to such groups to promote such activities with honors.

Such groups will have never ending list of activities since we have a long way to travel for a society with International standards..

If there are any suggestions or disagreement with my post, please let me know..What i wish is to get more groups to make dream come true..

---Mr.Kannan, please bear with me in mentioning your name at many places, Since i need to mention/point out at someone and your name came to mind i quoted it..----

[ThoughtomatioN]

Originally Posted by kannan infratech

I met a Dalit Leader of some repute yesterday. His concept & ideas were scary.

In TN, reserved seats are there in every district where only Dalits can contest. So they have approx 40+ MLAs for sure at any election.

The 2G King has become their leader and he will spend money for them irrespective of the party. But they have to be loyal only to him and Dalitism and not to their party.

Similarly they will have 8+ MPs. Same formula there also.

They will demand 15% of any Govt projects to be given to them or to companies referred by them from which ever party rules. Any party will need their support in elections.

Even the Siruthai & Dr have accepted this formula and 2G King as Leader.

In next 10 years, they will become the important group in TN Politics.

They feel that they can sustain for next 50 years comfortably with 2G King at the helm.

All the locked & frozen accounts have been allowed to operate by the Kadhar Veshti CG Minister. (aka Quotrochchi).

Dalit Leader's punch Line : Inime Yaarum Engalai Asachukka Mudiyadhu, Asachukka Mudiyadhu.

Selva Perunthagai ?. (VCK --> BSP --> INC --> ???)
He lost the Chengam (SC) MLA seat election to a DMDK candidate in 2011 Assembly elections.

[krishnaswamy]

Originally Posted by kannan infratech

I met a Dalit Leader of some repute yesterday. His concept & ideas were scary.

In TN, reserved seats are there in every district where only Dalits can contest. So they have approx 40+ MLAs for sure at any election.

The 2G King has become their leader and he will spend money for them irrespective of the party. But they have to be loyal only to him and Dalitism and not to their party.

Similarly they will have 8+ MPs. Same formula there also.

They will demand 15% of any Govt projects to be given to them or to companies referred by them from which ever party rules. Any party will need their support in elections.

Even the Siruthai & Dr have accepted this formula and 2G King as Leader.

In next 10 years, they will become the important group in TN Politics.

They feel that they can sustain for next 50 years comfortably with 2G King at the helm.

All the locked & frozen accounts have been allowed to operate by the Kadhar Veshti CG Minister. (aka Quotrochchi).

Dalit Leader's punch Line : Inime Yaarum Engalai Asachukka Mudiyadhu, Asachukka Mudiyadhu.

hm..Reservation impact. we can not escape. whole purpose is those Dalit leaders has to speak for their community and do the development.
But look at the present scenario...?

read Siruthai thalaivar Q&A in AV.. laughable stock. but he can not be ignored. He will support LTTE, fight with congress, but he also needs MP seat which he got through Cong

Still these siruthais, PMK needs to be taught their place.

[ranga]

Originally Posted by chennaidesi

All these parties will make sure people will never develop.

Dalits were and are still discriminated insulted for centuries by other castes.Most of them are very poor.Its coming of the revenge.A.Raja is like the phoniex.

[vinodgopal]

ranga ji, why dont you become our leader? That way i am sure we will get our value for the tax we pay. It is time such eminent people come into politcs

[phoenoix]

Originally Posted by ranga

Dalits were and are still discriminated insulted for centuries by other castes.Most of them are very poor.Its coming of the revenge.A.Raja is like the phoniex.

God saved me as my id was little different else people might mistake me with Raja and voted for me