Kennedy Boulevard News and Discussion - Page 3

USF802 · September 14th, 2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by koopalicious

But it's site controlled. You can't even construct a temporary lot in that case.

hmm I did not know that interesting.

I just found this article http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgo...levard/1138559

I read it and unless I am reading to much into it and trying to make something out of it that's not, I would say this is what's happing. A quick measurement in Google Earth of this site plus the existing site that Corporate Center is now on, is ballpark 490 feet.

Basically the article insinuates that the site we are discussing, has been planned to be a 457 space parking lot surrounded with a 6 foot tall fence similar to UT's.

Jasonhouse · September 14th, 2012, 01:11 AM

^That is the old plan. The one they went back to the city for since then, that Koopalicious posted about, is the amended plan.

TampaMike · September 14th, 2012, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by USF802

I have no idea. It's tough driving by to get an accurate perception of the layout of the lights and as someone mentioned earlier they could be the lights for the driveways, but it doesn't explain why they go all the way back to the back right corner.

Perhaps, they are building this surface lot and plan to move the parking from the site near the Neighborhood Walmart to this site and then begin construction over there for their other proposed project.

It was more wishful thinking that they were for the entrance way for the whole project. Guess another wish for Tampa got ruined.

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Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

I was going to drive by today, but my agenda took me up into Carrollwood instead. By the time I got back down south, it was too close to rush hour for a joy ride. (I live up near the stadium). I'll be down that way by Saturday. I would really like to know what's up!

I was going to drive down there too today and see what was up. But after 2 calls for different shifts to come in to work today while still in class, I knew I would get another call later in the day. Which happened.

If all is a surface parking, what the heck happened to the plan? It seems like right after they completed the renovation of the existing building, they threw out this plan for office and residential units only months after. I was almost certain that with the work being done, and how long it was taking, that they were going through with the whole development.

smiley · September 14th, 2012, 07:40 PM

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Again, Fernandez said, the appearance shouldn't be a problem. Between Kennedy and the parking lot will be a sidewalk with concrete panels and brick trim, 24 feet of landscaped setback and the UT-style fence.

I would not expect anything else unless you see a report on it. Maybe one day they will build the "amended" project, but who knows. This is a govt hospital and a city govt. Do you expect something good?

USF802 · September 18th, 2012, 06:59 AM

Here is a brief article related to TGH confirming what we have already discussed regarding the surface lot http://83degreesmedia.com/devnews/tgh091812.aspx

Also Oxford Exchange across from UT, should be opening Monday good news on that front.

Jasonhouse · September 18th, 2012, 07:09 AM

Glad I didn't waste my time Saturday going down there.

Del Mayberry · September 18th, 2012, 09:28 AM

here's a nice update on Oxford. It really looks nice and classy in the pictures.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/business/20...uch-ar-504094/

tampaizzy · September 18th, 2012, 07:58 PM

Those pictures look really nice, I can't wait to check it out in person.

TampaMike · September 18th, 2012, 08:34 PM

So what will they do for parking once they decide to go ahead with the parking garage and mixed-use building? Of course, they'll do the garage first. But still, the garage will use up a good chunk of the lot.

And why did they make an amended version when they weren't going ahead with it baffles me.

jonknee · February 4th, 2013, 06:02 PM

I haven't seen anyone mention the new Primrose school going in on Kennedy, pretty close to the UT lacrosse field. It's another depressing project--full block but mostly just one floor. Here's the rendering:

HARTride 2012 · February 4th, 2013, 06:11 PM

As depressing as it is of a development, it is far better than nothing.

Jasonhouse · February 4th, 2013, 06:16 PM

Lol... What a joke.

koopalicious · February 4th, 2013, 06:42 PM

I don't understand the point of having a school on Kennedy. Couldn't they have found a cheaper property elsewhere and used the extra money to - oh, I don't know - improve the school/learning experience itself?

tampaizzy · February 4th, 2013, 06:49 PM

It also seems like a horrible idea to put a school for small children fronting a major road

jonknee · February 4th, 2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HARTride 2012

As depressing as it is of a development, it is far better than nothing.

I think this is far worse than nothing. It locks up a nice piece of land for a poor use.

Casey · February 4th, 2013, 08:30 PM

I'm sure they have their reasons for building in that location, but this facility seems far better suited to a suburban location, if you ask me. But they didn't. :-)

jonknee · February 4th, 2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey

I'm sure they have their reasons for building in that location, but this facility seems far better suited to a suburban location, if you ask me. But they didn't. :-)

Yes, their reason is they have the land and a franchise license. That does not mean it's the best use for a city block on the "Gateway to Tampa". The same goes for UT's ridiculous decision to build a lacrosse field fronting Kennedy (across the street from this day care).

Let's pray they won't get a School Zone that will slow Kennedy down to more of a crawl.

Del Mayberry · February 4th, 2013, 10:06 PM

There is all this talk of developing the western side of the river. This school doesn't help. It should have went somewhere else.

jonknee · February 4th, 2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Del Mayberry

There is all this talk of developing the western side of the river. This school doesn't help. It should have went somewhere else.

It's not on the river or really all that close (~15 blocks or so).

USF802 · February 4th, 2013, 11:12 PM

I think the whole Kennedy "Gateway" idea is kaput now. This school combined with everything UT has done and the Tampa general parking lot pretty much killed the Gateway notion.

As for why this they decided to build a elementary school fronting one of the busiest roads in Tampa is beyond me, something like this belongs in a neighborhood setting.

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September 14th, 2012, 01:11 AM	#42
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,270 Likes (Received): 7	^That is the old plan. The one they went back to the city for since then, that Koopalicious posted about, is the amended plan.

September 18th, 2012, 06:59 AM	#45
USF802 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 172 Likes (Received): 2	Here is a brief article related to TGH confirming what we have already discussed regarding the surface lot http://83degreesmedia.com/devnews/tgh091812.aspx Also Oxford Exchange across from UT, should be opening Monday good news on that front.

September 18th, 2012, 09:28 AM	#47
Del Mayberry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 495 Likes (Received): 0	here's a nice update on Oxford. It really looks nice and classy in the pictures. http://www2.tbo.com/news/business/20...uch-ar-504094/

September 18th, 2012, 07:58 PM	#48
tampaizzy Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 63 Likes (Received): 2	Those pictures look really nice, I can't wait to check it out in person.

February 4th, 2013, 06:16 PM	#52
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,270 Likes (Received): 7	Lol... What a joke.

February 4th, 2013, 06:42 PM	#53
koopalicious Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 409 Likes (Received): 4	I don't understand the point of having a school on Kennedy. Couldn't they have found a cheaper property elsewhere and used the extra money to - oh, I don't know - improve the school/learning experience itself?

February 4th, 2013, 06:49 PM	#54
tampaizzy Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 63 Likes (Received): 2	It also seems like a horrible idea to put a school for small children fronting a major road

February 4th, 2013, 08:30 PM	#56
Casey Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tampa Posts: 306 Likes (Received): 0	I'm sure they have their reasons for building in that location, but this facility seems far better suited to a suburban location, if you ask me. But they didn't. :-)

February 4th, 2013, 10:06 PM	#58
Del Mayberry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 495 Likes (Received): 0	There is all this talk of developing the western side of the river. This school doesn't help. It should have went somewhere else.

February 4th, 2013, 11:12 PM	#60
USF802 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 172 Likes (Received): 2	I think the whole Kennedy "Gateway" idea is kaput now. This school combined with everything UT has done and the Tampa general parking lot pretty much killed the Gateway notion. As for why this they decided to build a elementary school fronting one of the busiest roads in Tampa is beyond me, something like this belongs in a neighborhood setting.