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Old September 21st, 2012, 12:30 PM   #1361
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But It's a 350km/h trainset! Why wouldn't they use at least CRH1 or something similar?
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Old September 21st, 2012, 01:36 PM   #1362
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Huh? 3250KPH? Is policy chasing urban sprawl there or is 22 to be a crosstown shuttle?

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Old September 21st, 2012, 02:11 PM   #1363
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But It's a 350km/h trainset! Why wouldn't they use at least CRH1 or something similar?
Maximum speed CRH2A/B/E: 250 km/h

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Railways_CRH2
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Old September 21st, 2012, 08:15 PM   #1364
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Chengdu-Dujiangyan is 57 km like Line 22 - 65 km to Qingchengshan. And it is suited to 220 km/h.
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Old September 21st, 2012, 08:34 PM   #1365
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Metro station's new name annoys some
I got annoyed by the "Aerospace Museum Station"-name. I went all out there to look at some airplanes..

The museum isn't even build yet.
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Old September 21st, 2012, 08:44 PM   #1366
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Shanghai's 1st commuter rail, line 22 will start trian run on 9/28

The new line will cover 56km, 9 stations with ma speed of 160km/h.
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This is nice. I'm all for increased mobility in the city. Interesting that they will use the CRH2, will this eventually be changed over to the CRH6? Like Pansori posted, why not use the CRH1 if 160km/h is the top speed for the line?

I'd like to see a map for this new line.
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Old September 21st, 2012, 09:24 PM   #1367
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I'm glad they're serving drinks on Line 22. It's a 20-minute ride end-to-end; way too long to wait without having some orange juice. They need to introduce this on some of the other lines as well, such as the one that connects SHA to PVG.

As a matter of fact, the opening of Line 22 will make Shanghai South just the third station in China to be served by more than 2 subway lines (the others are Beijing North and Shanghai stations). And Tianjin station will also join this club in October when Lines 3 and 9 are connected to Line 2.

Other famous stations to be served by more than 2 subway lines include:
1. Stockholm Central (red, green and blue)
2. Los Angeles Union (red, purple and gold)
3. New York Grand Central (4, 5, 6, 7, S)
4. New York Penn (1, 2, 3, A, C, E)
5. New York Atlantic Terminal (2, 3, 4, 5, B, D, N, Q, R)
6. Moscow Kievskiy (3, 4, 5)
7. London King's Cross (Circle, Hammersmith & City, Metropolitan, Northern, Piccadilly, Victoria)
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Old September 21st, 2012, 09:25 PM   #1368
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Line 22 map is available here:

http://urbanrail.net/as/cn/shan/shanghai-future.htm
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 01:47 AM   #1369
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Other famous stations to be served by more than 2 subway lines include:
1. Stockholm Central (red, green and blue)
2. Los Angeles Union (red, purple and gold)
3. New York Grand Central (4, 5, 6, 7, S)
4. New York Penn (1, 2, 3, A, C, E)
5. New York Atlantic Terminal (2, 3, 4, 5, B, D, N, Q, R)
6. Moscow Kievskiy (3, 4, 5)
7. London King's Cross (Circle, Hammersmith & City, Metropolitan, Northern, Piccadilly, Victoria)
8. Amsterdam Central Station (Line 51, 53, 54, and soon 52 (North-South Line).
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 02:42 AM   #1370
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9. Shanghai Hongqiao (line 2 and line 10)
10. Kuala Lumpur Sentral (ERL, KTM Komuter, LRT, KL Monorail)
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 02:43 AM   #1371
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 04:57 AM   #1372
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This is really cool. No matter how fast it is, being able to take a CRH inside your city is just damn cool. Very interesting they're using a CRH2 on this....I love the idea, still scratching my head why they chose this train.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 05:15 AM   #1373
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Do passengers need to buy separate CRH tickets or use their metro smart card on this line?
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 06:30 AM   #1374
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Both are accepted. The train is CRH but the operation model follows Shanghai metro way.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 08:32 AM   #1375
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This is really cool. No matter how fast it is, being able to take a CRH inside your city is just damn cool.
It has long been possible to take CRH inside Shanghai. The stations of Shanghai West, Nanxiang North and Anting North are inside Shanghai.

While Jinshan is 56 km from Shanghai South, Kunshan South is 50 km from Shanghai.

Kunshan is in Suzhou, not Shanghai. Yet Kunshan is the richest city in China - far richer than Shanghai.

What should be done to improve rail services between Shanghai, Kunshan and suburbs of both in between such as Anting or Huaqiao?
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 06:11 PM   #1376
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It has long been possible to take CRH inside Shanghai. The stations of Shanghai West, Nanxiang North and Anting North are inside Shanghai.

While Jinshan is 56 km from Shanghai South, Kunshan South is 50 km from Shanghai.

Kunshan is in Suzhou, not Shanghai. Yet Kunshan is the richest city in China - far richer than Shanghai.

What should be done to improve rail services between Shanghai, Kunshan and suburbs of both in between such as Anting or Huaqiao?
Weren't there rumors of either extending line 11 into Suzhou or a commuter line from Shanghai West?
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 07:00 PM   #1377
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Weren't there rumors of either extending line 11 into Suzhou or a commuter line from Shanghai West?
Line 11 extension Anting-Huaqiao is under construction. When is it due to open?
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Old September 23rd, 2012, 02:09 PM   #1378
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Other famous stations to be served by more than 2 subway lines include:
1. Stockholm Central (red, green and blue)
2. Los Angeles Union (red, purple and gold)
3. New York Grand Central (4, 5, 6, 7, S)
4. New York Penn (1, 2, 3, A, C, E)
5. New York Atlantic Terminal (2, 3, 4, 5, B, D, N, Q, R)
6. Moscow Kievskiy (3, 4, 5)
7. London King's Cross (Circle, Hammersmith & City, Metropolitan, Northern, Piccadilly, Victoria)
Paris - Gare Montparnasse, lots of lines.
Paris - Gare de Lyon (1, 14 and?)
Moscow Yaroslavsky, Leningradsky and Kazansky (1, 5)
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Old September 23rd, 2012, 02:11 PM   #1379
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What are the headways in rush hour on line 22 and are there any parts underground?
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Old September 23rd, 2012, 05:46 PM   #1380
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What are the headways in rush hour on line 22 and are there any parts underground?
the entire line is above ground idk about headways though.
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