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Old August 15th, 2012, 05:47 PM   #41
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It's kind of like the old meme when cell phones first became popular...."crazy, or on the phone?" In this case, "marble, or just dirty?"

Traditional department stores and stacked supermarkets aren't considered big boxes. And cities have always had them. The newer trend is companies that were exclusively big boxes with suburban form, maybe with a few exceptions, entering urban markets/forms in a much bigger way.

To use the Target example, the first stacked example in my city was in 2000. But the City Target concept is new in 2012.
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Old August 15th, 2012, 10:17 PM   #42
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Albuquerque, NM: Uptown Target Store

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A two-story Sam’s Club/Walmart is also expected to open in the fall, according to Trammell Crow, and will comprise 320,000 square feet of the total 485,000 square foot retail center.

http://lakehighlands.advocatemag.com...-sams-walmart/


While none of these stores are considered to be "pedestrian friendly" I included them here since they employ a unique design which allows them to take up less space compared with your typical "strip mall" setup.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #43
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Some of these aren't very urban.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 05:29 AM   #44
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Some of these aren't very urban.
The two examples I posted above might not be as accesible to pedestrians as the others, but I included them here since they demonstrate how to fit certain sized retail into a smaller area, which is a characteristic, commonly found in urban areas where land availability is low.

Typically your basic Wal-Mart and or Sam's Club are situated in giant one story buildings surrounded by parking lots creating a huge waste of space. In the examples above while pedestrian access is lacking at both stores, the architects and engineers involved in designing the stores seemed to have solved the spacial dilema, by creating multilevel parking and in the later case stacking one store (Sam's Club) on top of the other (Wal-Mart) therefore creating a much more efficient use of the space.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 07:21 AM   #45
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It's good that they're more efficient. Just not "urban" by any stretch.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 07:34 AM   #46
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The two examples I posted above might not be as accesible to pedestrians as the others, but I included them here since they demonstrate how to fit certain sized retail into a smaller area, which is a characteristic, commonly found in urban areas where land availability is low.

Typically your basic Wal-Mart and or Sam's Club are situated in giant one story buildings surrounded by parking lots creating a huge waste of space. In the examples above while pedestrian access is lacking at both stores, the architects and engineers involved in designing the stores seemed to have solved the spacial dilema, by creating multilevel parking and in the later case stacking one store (Sam's Club) on top of the other (Wal-Mart) therefore creating a much more efficient use of the space.
The Uptown Albuquerque Target is very accessible to pedestrians. The main entrance shown above is built to the curb at a very busy intersection across from a lifestyle center that attracts many pedestrians in an area with hotels, offices, apartments and other retail developments. The store is built atop a parking garage with vehicular access at the rear. And transit is available along 3 surrounding streets and boulevards. The original site plan for that lot was retail surmounted by 4-6 floors of condos. The struggling housing market resulted in the housing component being dropped.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 09:13 AM   #47
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Typically your basic Wal-Mart and or Sam's Club are situated in giant one story buildings surrounded by parking lots creating a huge waste of space. In the examples above while pedestrian access is lacking at both stores, the architects and engineers involved in designing the stores seemed to have solved the spacial dilema, by creating multilevel parking and in the later case stacking one store (Sam's Club) on top of the other (Wal-Mart) therefore creating a much more efficient use of the space.
In the SF CostCo I posted, the parking is underground below the store and on the roof above it. But the interesting thing is that the huge lots are kept open when the store is closed as parking for the very popular nightlife district surrounding the store. I suspect that's the main reason the city let them build it--that and CostCo's reputation as a very employee friendly employer.
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Old September 21st, 2012, 04:41 AM   #48
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Walmart just submitted a permit to build a new urban format store in the Midtown neighborhood of Miami, with parking located above the store.


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The design is a world away from Walmart’s old trademark battleship grey box. The beige and brown facade would have a plethora of windows with awnings and varied elevations. The store would sit on the ground floor with a two-level parking garage above including about 550 spaces. The street front would include 10,500 square feet of small retailers. Customers would enter Walmart at the corner of Midtown Boulevard and Northeast 31st Street.

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Target store in the Salt Lake neighborhood of Honolulu with streetside pedestrian access and multi-level parking. What is also notable about this site is that it used to be a Costco.

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Old September 23rd, 2012, 08:27 AM   #50
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wow... urban or not i wish toledo would get a target like that! those look cool!
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Old November 6th, 2012, 09:42 AM   #51
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Arlington, VA: Pentagon Centre (Anchors: Costco, Nordstrom Rack, Best Buy, Marshalls, Sleepy's)
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Arlington, VA: Pentagon Rowe (Anchors: Harris Teeter, Cost Plus World Market, Bed Bath & Beyond, DSW, Mattress Discounters)
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Old November 18th, 2012, 08:58 AM   #52
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Charlotte: Lowe's Home Improvement



This store is located in Charlotte's South End neighborhood, adjacent to the Lynx light rail line and has rooftop parking.
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Old November 20th, 2012, 05:54 AM   #53
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 08:40 PM   #54
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Some of these aren't very urban.
My thought exactly...
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Tyson's Corner, Virginia: Tyson's West (Anchors: Wal-Mart, 24 Hour Fitness)







http://www.tysonswest.com/

This development features an urban formatted Walmart which is under construction in addition to apartments, offices, other retail, and a Sheraton Hotel, and it will be accessible thru the Spring Hill station of the under construction Silver Line of the DC Metro system.
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Target in Homewood, Alabama....high density suburb south of Birmingham.



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