Somali Politics | Siyaasada Soomaalida

[talya]

Originally Posted by Deputato

It is good that he is visiting the homeland regions in an act of warmth towards his people, but how exactly will he gain ideas from the public community about a PM? Does he expect the local population to just shout out names of politicians they would want as a PM? I think he is better off making use of his close associates (given that they're honest advisors) to make a decision about it.

In aan idin laa tashado aa rabaa micnaheeda waa aqoon yahanada reer Baay and Baydhabo fikradooda ayuu rabaa in oo maqlo oo keliya.

[Deputato]

Originally Posted by talya

In aan idin laa tashado aa rabaa micnaheeda waa aqoon yahanada reer Baay and Baydhabo fikradooda ayuu rabaa in oo maqlo oo keliya.

Kolayba, Soomaali Maxamad maslaxadeeda haduu ka shaqeeyo, waa fikir aan soo dhoweynaya.

[talya]

Originally Posted by Deputato

Kolayba, Soomaali Maxamad maslaxadeeda haduu ka shaqeeyo, waa fikir aan soo dhoweynaya.

Insha Allah 21 sano laasoo dhaafey sidda aan Madaxweyne Hassan Sheikh aan kalsooni ugu qabo qof aan uu qabey maa jiro.laakin shacabka waa in ee laa shaqeyaan asiga keliya waxba maa bedeli karro.21 sanno ee laasoo dhaafey Madaxweyne Hassan Sheikh gobolada Somalia badan kooda oo dhan ayuu shaqooyin lagu hormorinaayo nolosha iyo waxbarashada umadda Soomaliyeed kaa soo qabtey, siddaas darteed Kalsooni iyo dulqaad ayuu naga mudanyahay.

[k6734]

Wafdi heer wasiiro ah oo ka socda Dowladda Britain ayaa maanta Muqdisho kula kulmay Madaxweynaha Jamhuuriyadda Soomaaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud, waxayna labada dhinac ka wada hadleen sidii loo caawin lahaa Dowladda cusub ee Soomaaliya u dhalatay.
Madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud oo kulankaasi kadib Saxaafadda la hadlay ayaa sheegay in wafdiga heerka Wasiir ee soo booqday Muqdisho ay ka wada hadleen xiriirka labada dhinac iyo sidii loo hormarin lahaa.
“Waxaan ka wada hadlay cilaaqaadka ku saabsan Dowladda Soomaaliya iyo Ingiriiska, waxaa kaloo ka wada hadalnay in Dowladda cusub ee aan KMG aheyn iney toos ula macaamili doonto, ayna ka saacidi doonto baahida Dowladda Soomaaliya soo gudbiso, waxaana ka filayaa in dhawaan ay ka jawaabto qorshaha aan soo gudbino.
Wasiirada horumarinta caalamiga ah ee Britain Justine Green oo iyadana la hadashay ayaa sheegtay in Dowladeeda ay diyaar u tahay taageerada Dowladda cusub ee Soomaaliya, iyadoo ku dhawaaqday in Britain ay ku taageereyso Dowladda cusub £48 Malyan oo lacagta Britain.

Britain is strengthening its relations with Somalia by offering a security package to the federal government

[juzme123]

I can see that this thread hasnt been updated recently. A new PM has been named - he is an economist and businessman.

New Prime Minister Named.

Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, Somalia's new president, has named Abdi Farah Shirdon Saaid as the country's new prime minister, diplomats and a government source said.

Friday's appointment is the first major decision by an administration installed after over 20 years of conflict.

Saaid, a political newcomer, has been a prominent businessman in neighbouring Kenya and is married to Asha Haji Elmi, an influential Somali peace activist.

A Western diplomat said Saaid had a reputation for being above Somalia's notoriously volatile clan politics, similar to the new president, and the news of his appointment would be welcomed by foreign governments.

"Like all the decisions the new president has made so far, this is a good one, and Somalia is on a bit of a roll with the election of (Mohamed Osman) Jawaari as parliament speaker and Mohamud as president," the diplomatic source told the Reuters news agency.

Mohamud, a former academic and a political newcomer himself, was elected president in a secret ballot on September 10, a result hailed by his supporters as a vote for change in the Horn of Africa state ravaged by war and anarchy since 1991.

Saaid's appointment as the prime minister will have to be approved by Somali legislators, diplomatic sources said.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa...336746746.html

The new parliament has swiftly approved the president's appointed PM.

Somalia MPs approve Shirdon as the new prime minister

Members of Somalia's parliament have approved the appointment of Abdi Farah Shirdon as the new prime minister. The MPs unanimously backed the ex-businessman, nominated by newly elected President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud. Before the vote Mr Shirdon said he would form "an effective government to deal with current situation".

Addressing MPs, President Mohamud said he was confident the new prime minister would do something about the "country's difficult situation". The biggest challenge facing Somalia's new UN-backed leaders is the al-Qaeda-aligned Islamist group, al-Shabab.

Mr Shirdon took the oath of office shortly after the vote and his next task is to form a cabinet. An economics graduate, Mr Shirdon has been based in Kenya's capital, Nairobi, since the civil war in Somalia began in 1991. In April, he co-founded the Rajo Council, or Hope Council, in Nairobi, which he said aimed to bring Somalis together to reclaim the country. He is married to Aisha Hagi Elmi, a prominent Somali MP and outspoken voice on women's issues.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19979371

[juzme123]

A small cabinet of 10 ministers has been named. This is significant news considering that previous cabinets have been 18 and 26 ministers respectively. Two of the ten new ministers are women and they hold very important porfolios.

New Somali Prime Minister Appoints Leaner Cabinet

Somalia's new prime minister has named a leaner cabinet as the country attempts to establish its first fully functioning government after decades of anarchy.

Abdi Farah Shirdon on Sunday announced the appointments of 10 cabinet ministers, downsizing the executive from the previous 18 in the transitional government whose mandate ended in August. He said his government would restore security and rebuild Somalia's economy.

Shirdon appointed two female ministers, including the first female Foreign Minister Fowziya Yusuf Aden as well as Maryan Qasim who was appointed Public Services Development minister.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...3#.UKPBiqMa_Ck

[juzme123]

Somali parliament endorses downsized Cabinet in victory for new prime minister

MOGADISHU, Somalia — In a sign Somalia’s government may be willing to move away from its corrupt past, the parliament on Tuesday approved a smaller, 10-member Cabinet in a vote that serves as an important victory for the country’s new prime minister.

Parliamentary speaker Mohmed Sheik Osman Jawari said 219 parliamentarians endorsed the Cabinet in a vote Tuesday. Three voted against and three abstained. The Cabinet, formed by Somali Prime Minister Abdi Farah Shirdon, is expected to be sworn in next week.

The naming of the smaller Cabinet is the latest change undergone by the government this year. A new interim constitution has been passed, a new parliament was seated and a new president was voted in. The U.N. representative for Somalia, Augustine Mahiga, hailed the naming of two women ministers: the minister of foreign affairs, who also serves as deputy prime minister, and the minister of development and social services.

“This is another important milestone in the history of Somalia,” Mahiga said. “The appointment of clean slate of just 10 ministers conclusively demonstrates the will of the Somali leadership to move away from the mindset of the past and bring about positive change.”

Mahiga added: “The new council of ministers represents a broad spectrum of political shades and membership while taking equality and representation into account. It also reflects the cultural and social realities of today’s Somalia.”

European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the limited size of the Cabinet will help the government implement key priorities. Past Somali governments have been bloated with huge numbers of ministries designed to appease certain clans.

The new Cabinet must continue the rebuilding of the country after years of warfare with al-Shabab militants, who continue to unleash suicide attacks in Mogadishu.

“What we want is security for ourselves and property from al-Shabab and the unruly soldiers. Then we can talk about developments,” Ali Abdullahi, a Mogadishu resident said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...3ac_story.html

[juzme123]

So far, everything seems to be going smoothly for the new government. The next big hurdle they will have to tackle is the reconstitution of the security sector and strenghtening of local governance across all the regions. It is interesting to note that the new president, parliament (MP's), speaker and PM all seem to be working well together and are, albeit gradually, getting things done. On another note, the international community also seems intent on supporting the new government and countries and multinational organisation varying from Turkey, China, Egypt, U.S, U.K and the E.U are increasing their support for the new Somali government and are - most importantly - starting to deal directly with the new SOmali government.

I think much credit goes to the new parliament as most of the new MP's are "daacad" and 'clean'. If one looks through the list of the names of the new MP's, you will see that there are some great people in there; there are many prominent activists who have all in their own way worked tirelessly over the past 20 years to help the Somali people; people with a track record of being "wadani", efficient and uncorrupt who will most certainly keep everyone else on their tip-toes. Lastly, apparently >60% of the new MP's have a university degree.

Interesting times.

[juzme123]

A topic that has seen major developments in recent months has been the rebuilding of a Somali Military. The U.S, Turkey and Egypt have all stated that in their different capacities, they will train, arm and fund a "new" Somali Military. Turkey and Egypt's offers have as of yet only been pledges rather than concrete planned action. The U.S on the other hand has indicated that it has a thorough and comprehensive plan to rebuild the Somali military and to [eventually] do away with AMISOM.

THE U.S.A Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Johnnie Carson said the following:

The second major issues under focus was Somalia. Secretary Clinton also participated in this meeting. Somalia is a good news story for the region, for the international community, but most especially for the people of Somalia itself. Over the past 12 months we have seen the completion of the transitional roadmap ending the TFG and creating a new Somali Government. For the first time in nearly two decades, Somalia has a new provisional constitution. It has a newly selected parliament which is half the size of the former parliament and comprises some 18 percent women and whose membership is comprised of some 60 percent university graduates. There's been a new speaker selected and a new president elected. Great progress has been achieved in Somalia, and this is in large measure because of the combined efforts of IGAD, the African Union, the UN and the international community, and especially the United States.

At this meeting, we heard from Somalia's new president, Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, and it was broadly agreed that the international community would support the new emphasis in priorities of the government.

For our part in Washington, we are determined to do three things. One is to help the new government put in place the infrastructure so that it can run effectively. This means helping to create effective government ministries, have those ministries staffed with effective civil servants and advisors so that they can carry out their government functions.

The second is to help to create a new Somali national army, an army that is subservient to civilian and constitutional control, an army that is able to work alongside of AMISOM and take on increasingly new responsibilities that are much broader than anything AMISOM has been equipped and manned to do. But creating a new strong Somali army, to eventually replace AMISOM is a second priority. And third priority is to provide assistance to the government so that it can deliver services to the people so that it can rebuild and refurbish and re-staff schools, hospitals, and medical clinics, provide assistance so that it can begin to deal with some of its smaller infrastructure issues, providing clean water to populations, helping to restore electrical power and also opening up markets. We also want to help in developing small enterprise and microcredit operations to help the government as well.

So we will be working there. As I said, Secretary Clinton was there. We think Somalia has made enormous progress. We also believe there has been significant military progress against al-Shabaab. AMISOM deserves an enormous amount of credit in driving al-Shabab out of Mogadishu and its environs and also moving against the city of Kismayo. Much credit for the operations in Kismayo go to the Kenyan forces who were a part of AMISOM, but we must praise the leadership of the Ugandan commanders who have led the AMISOM mission over the last four years. But Uganda, Burundi, Djibouti, Kenya all deserve credit, and they will soon be joined by forces arriving literally today and tomorrow from Sierra Leone to help strengthen AMISOM. But the international community has been in unison with IGAD and the AU, and the U.S. has been a significant and major contributor to this effort.

I stress that in the case of Somalia, where we have seen enormous progress over the last 12 months, and in fact, continuously over the last three, three and a half years, there has been a clear commitment by all who were engaged there to follow a common strategy and adopt a set of common views. EGAD and the East African community, who are the most important players around Somalia, the AU, the U.S., the UN and others have all had a common position. And I think that's why Somalia has achieved so much success over the last 12 months in terms of moving to a more permanent government and making the strides in success against al-Shabaab. We look to try to have the same kind of both regional and international cooperation on Mali.

we applaud the work of AMISOM and what they have done in helping to degrade and defeat and push al-Shabaab out of Somalia's main cities and towns. We believe that this will help to bring about a return to stability in Somalia and will reduce, over time, the terrorist threat to Somalis and to neighboring states. We believe that the Kenyan role in liberating the south as a part of AMISOM is important and deserves the support of both IGAD, the African Union, and the international community.

On this - on the first question that you asked, we have in Washington been strong supporters of AMISOM, major contributors to the AMISOM effort, largely by training and equipping AMISOM battalions that have gone into Somalia to help fight the al-Shabaab. Going forward, we would anticipate that most of our new and additional resources, as they come to us, will be directed at helping to train and provision a new Somali military, not to continue to expand AMISOM. The focus should be on creating a national Somali army that will take over from AMISOM and will assume the responsibilities of providing national security and defense for the nation.

I do not at this time have any dollar figures that I can share with you on what we would be providing to the Somali Government to train Somali military forces. We have done some of this in the past. We have trained small units of Somali TFG troops in Bihanga, Uganda at a military camp. We would expect that we will, over time, continue to do this and expand it and to make more of the training local in Somalia for both cost effectiveness and for political reasons. But we look at the focus going forward being directed at strengthening the Somali national military and not expanding the AMISOM effort, which has been extraordinarily valuable and important.

SOURCE

[juzme123]

Three seperate delegations, from Turkey, China and Iran, have reached Mogadishu today and have held talks with the newly formed government. Iran will open an embassy in Mogadishu. Turkey and China announced more details on their plans to assist in reconstruction efforts.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...e-in-mogadishu

[juzme123]

Turkish foreign minister addresses the new Somali Parliament.

Dowladda Turkiga Oo Dib U Dhis Ku Sameyneysa Xarunta Golaha Shacabka Ee Magaalada Muqdisho

Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibadda dalka aynu walaalaha nahay ee Turkiga oo maanta khudbad ka hor jeediyey xarunta golaha Shacabka ee magaalada Muqdisho xili ay ku kulansanaayeen Mudanayaasha Baarlamaanka ayaa sheegay in Dolwadda Turkigu ay dib u dhis xoogan ku sameyneyso dhismaha golaha Shacabka.

Ahmet Davutoglu Wasiirka Wasaaradda Arrimaha Dibadda ee dalka aynu walaalaha nahay ee Turkiga oo maanta booqasho ku yimid magaalada Muqdisho ayaa khudbadda uu ka jeediyey xarunta golaha shacabka wuxuu uga hadlay doorka dib u dhiska dalkeenna ay walaalaha Turkigu ku leeyihiin waxaana uu u tilmaamay in mashaariicda dib u dhis ee ay Walaalaha Turkigu ka sameynayaan Muqdisho ay ugu horeyso xarunta golaha shacabka.

“waxaan Muqdisho usoo dirnay Injineeradeenna si ay usoo qiimeeyaan waxa aynu ka qaban karno xarunta golaha shacabka inagoo ka jawaabeynay codsiga gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka waxeyna noo sheegeen in xaruntan aysan ku filneyn dayactir oo ay dhulka dhigayaan kadibna ay ka hirgelinayaan dhisme casri ah,waxaanna rajeynaynaa inaan ku guuleysano”ayuu ku yiri Ahmet Davutoglu Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibadda Turkiga khudbaddii uu ka hor jeediyey Xildhibaannada Baarlamaanka.

Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibadda Turkiga Ahmet Davutoglu ayaa dhanka kale tilmaamay in Dowladda Turkigu aysan ka daaleyn taageerada shacabka iyo Dowladda walaalahooda ah ee Soomaaliya ilaa inta ay Dowladda Soomaaliyeed cagaheeda isugu taageyso waxaana uu u soo gudbiyey xildhibaannada Baarlamaanka,madaxda sare ee dalka iyo shacbiga Soomaaliyeed salaan uu ka siday madaxda sare ee dalka Turkiga sida Madaxweyne Cabdala Guul iyo Ra’isulwasaare Recep Tayib Erdogan.

Dalka Turkiga ayaa kaalinta hore uga jira dowladaha Caalamka ee taageerrada ballaaran siiya Dowladda iyo Dadka Soomaaliyeed ayadoo walaalaha Turkigana lagu xasuusto gudmadkii ay Soomaaliya u sameeyeen xiligii Abaaraha,deeqaha waxbarasho ee ay siiyeen Ubadkeenna, marti gelinta shirar aayaha Soomaaliya quseeyey iyo dad badan ay Argigixisadu si xun ugu dhaawaceen gudaha dalka oo dalkooda ay deeq caafimaad u geeyeen.

http://radiomuqdisho.net/dowladda-tu...lada-muqdisho/

[Janub]

Originally Posted by juzme123

I can see that this thread hasnt been updated recently. A new PM has been named - he is an economist and businessman.

lol @ Economist and businessman. Man, you're innocent.

The PM, and maybe even the president too, are lifetime NGO thugs who enriched themselves through foreign aid contracts. At first it's easy to respect what they did (like the school projects), until you realize that it was nothing more than a business to them.

While the president is a typical NGO usurper, the PM is nothing short of a war criminal, and history easily proves that.

You see, Somali agriculture was in a stable state until the early 1980s. Until that period, food shortages via production was almost unknown, and Somalia was actually in a grain surplus during most of the 70s. Siad Barre brought the IMF and World Bank to Somalia in 1983, and they devalued the currency so Somalia could produce high-value fruits and cash crops for foreign markets. Much of the best land was given to Siad's clique as well. When Siad devalued the currency (on IMF/WB requests), traditional nomads and small farmers who drove the economy then became unable to purchase land or raw products. The donors additionally requested that Siad should only produce for the foreign market. Before this period, Somalia's agricultural industry produced primarily for the local market, which made food very cheap as well as abundant. Naturally, pastoral nomads earned food by bartering their herds to local grain producers, and it made Somalia very economically independent. The IMF's primary goal was to eliminate pastoral nomads through starvation, hence the currency devaluation, and the elimination of the nomads (who were middle men) would allow the IMF to intervene in the economy and take their place. To later offset the rapid decline in grain production, Siad began to import IMF/WB wheat for the domestic market, selling most of it directly so he could recoup some costs for his budget.

What does the current PM have to do with any of this? Sacid Farax Shirdon was put in charge of distributing wheat to Hargeisa and surrounding areas, which used to be one of the largest wheat production zones before the IMF/WB intervention. Sacid Farax Shirdon worked directly under the IMF/WB during this period, and he implemented their agenda. In the end, these policies disrupted the independent and stable partnership between the pastoral nomads and their farmer counterparts, and it has led to a vicious cycle that has taken far more Somali lives than any other phenomenon in our history. This man conspired with international criminals to ruin Somalia. All of the warlords you ever heard of, look like pussycats compared to this man.

I don't know about you, but a firing squad should be Shirdon's reward, not an appointment as PM.

[talya]

Originally Posted by Janub

lol @ Economist and businessman. Man, you're innocent.

The PM, and maybe even the president too, are lifetime NGO thugs who enriched themselves through foreign aid contracts. At first it's easy to respect what they did (like the school projects), until you realize that it was nothing more than a business to them.

While the president is a typical NGO usurper, the PM is nothing short of a war criminal, and history easily proves that.

You see, Somali agriculture was in a stable state until the early 1980s. Until that period, food shortages via production was almost unknown, and Somalia was actually in a grain surplus during most of the 70s. Siad Barre brought the IMF and World Bank to Somalia in 1983, and they devalued the currency so Somalia could produce high-value fruits and cash crops for foreign markets. Much of the best land was given to Siad's clique as well. When Siad devalued the currency (on IMF/WB requests), traditional nomads and small farmers who drove the economy then became unable to purchase land or raw products. The donors additionally requested that Siad should only produce for the foreign market. Before this period, Somalia's agricultural industry produced primarily for the local market, which made food very cheap as well as abundant. Naturally, pastoral nomads earned food by bartering their herds to local grain producers, and it made Somalia very economically independent. The IMF's primary goal was to eliminate pastoral nomads through starvation, hence the currency devaluation, and the elimination of the nomads (who were middle men) would allow the IMF to intervene in the economy and take their place. To later offset the rapid decline in grain production, Siad began to import IMF/WB wheat for the domestic market, selling most of it directly so he could recoup some costs for his budget.

What does the current PM have to do with any of this? Sacid Farax Shirdon was put in charge of distributing wheat to Hargeisa and surrounding areas, which used to be one of the largest wheat production zones before the IMF/WB intervention. Sacid Farax Shirdon worked directly under the IMF/WB during this period, and he implemented their agenda. In the end, these policies disrupted the independent and stable partnership between the pastoral nomads and their farmer counterparts, and it has led to a vicious cycle that has taken far more Somali lives than any other phenomenon in our history. This man conspired with international criminals to ruin Somalia. All of the warlords you ever heard of, look like pussycats compared to this man.

I don't know about you, but a firing squad should be Shirdon's reward, not an appointment as PM.

Well you are doing an honor to your nickname
shame on you Troll

[Janub]

Believe what you want. Every man with a degree is not your savior. Shirdon himself does not even deny his position at the IMF, so why are you defending a man who doesn't take shame in his crime?

[Arrow87]

Let's just give them all a chance before we accuse them of anything. Frankly I don't think it can't be any worse than 22 years of hell.

Somalis are paranoide creatures wallahi.

[Waaberi]

I found this Hilarious, but jokes i aside it show how little power the new government has that it can't establish itself in Kismayo. the countries 3rd city and the port city for all of southern Somalia.

[Xusein]

Soomaalida toosee!

[juzme123]

CNN interview with Professor Ahmed Ismail Samatar.

http://cnn.com/video/#/video/interna...-samatar-a.cnn

[Sideway]

Originally Posted by juzme123

CNN interview with Professor Ahmed Ismail Samatar.

http://cnn.com/video/#/video/interna...-samatar-a.cnn

I saw his other speech a while ago. The guy was damn disappointed and with a good reason too. But he shouldn't give him. Hiil-Qaran is the only party I'd vote for.

[ja'far]

Originally Posted by Sideway

I saw his other speech a while ago. The guy was damn disappointed and with a good reason too. But he shouldn't give him. Hiil-Qaran is the only party I'd vote for.

+1

He's the best educated Somali I have seen. In addition, Mr. Samatar has a bright future as a leader, therefore, he should give it a go next election (god welling), because the country needs visionary leader like him.