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Old November 25th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #161
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and another one here... a 23 floor residential tower by allies and morrison. embassy gardens by ballymore is in the background.

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Old November 26th, 2012, 12:12 AM   #162
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I'm impressed by a lot of what I'm seeing. This is very NYC, but more spacious and green. I love the brick:glass ratio. The floating streetlights are a congenial touch.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 10:45 AM   #163
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I love the brick:glass ratio.
Agreed, I always worry these redevelopments will becomes walls of glass.

This all looks quite fantastic.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 10:47 AM   #164
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No sorry Bricksy its just you being your ignorant self as per usual. Yes there is over development of the sight and you pulling out your ignorant wish list how you would likes things to look like from google earth assa nothing.

So just to get you up to speed.

This site has been crumbling for the best part of 25 yrs, various schemes have come and gone, the previous Irish owners ( like most Irish developers) were practically having money thrown at them so they paid over the odds for this site. To make there money back they planned to overdevelop the site with around 3,000 units. Now due to hysterics from the usual mob up the river they were allowed to build towers anywhere on the site so instead of having a large tower in the station or smaller ones at the back of the site that would have allowed more room at ground level but they had to cut the height and we all know when developers are forced to cut height because of heritage hysterics they are going to bulk up the shorter plans.

Now you should know the GLA & local planning authorities being pragmatic realised to get the whole Nine Elms and Vauxhall area off the ground and restore the Power station , slight overdevelop here was the best option. The site is now owned by various Malaysian funds. As has been mentioned this Heygate MKII (yes I suppose from someone who has never seen BPS or the Heygate in real life the Heygate is rather blocky and rectangular and the Simpson plans are also blocky and rectangular therefore they must be the same) that is the first phase will partly fund the rather large park and riverwalk and restoration to the actual power station, with the other equally as dense parts partly funding the much needed Northern Line extension that is vital to the whole regeneration of this mile stretch land between BPS and Vauxahll.

As much as we would love to sit in splendid ignorance and say nah this is rubbish what they should do is plant lots of pretty trees. Yes in things like Sim City you can do this but in the real world things cost money. I'm sure you could write and suggest it to the Malaysian pension fund partly funding this that they should loss money for their pensioners because it would look much better from google earth with a bit more space around it.

Until people like yourself realise there is a real world out there and there are constraints on this real world that effect things like this your comments will just continue to look ignorant and childish. Yes we would all like an ideal world but sadly this doesn't really tally in the REAL world.
I hope you realize what you just did here?
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Old December 19th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #165
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Planners have given the go-ahead for a £500m mixed-use development in Vauxhall that will include two 50-storey towers.

According to the approved detailed planning application which was submitted by developer CLS Holdings a year ago, the pair of towers, which will form part of a 143,000sqm mixed-use scheme at Vauxhall Square on the south bank of the Thames, will consist of 520 new homes.

Aside from the construction of new homes, including a portion of affordable homes, the scheme will also include 22,732sqm of offices, 3,119sqm of retail space, a 278-bedroom hotel and a 123-suite hotel, a 50-bedroom hostel for the homeless and 359 student rooms, a 3,777sqm multi-screen cinema and associated community facilities, as well as a new public square and public realm improvements.
Building work on the development is scheduled to start in early 2015.

Richard Tice, chief executive at CLS, told the press: "We are delighted to have secured this major planning approval in the main central London regeneration area, which is undergoing rapid transformation and attracting the attention of investors worldwide. The project is expected to create over 5,000 construction jobs, 2,000 permanent jobs, and deliver more than £500m of inward investment into the Vauxhall area."

CLS' new scheme is located at the centre of Vauxhall Nine Elms, between the Vauxhall transport interchange and the new US Embassy in south London, which is set to undergo huge transformation over the next few years, thanks in part to the planned extension of the Northern tube line to the area.


http://www.whathouse.co.uk/news/Plan...n-Vauxhall-802

i think this refers to one nine elms but not sure
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Old December 19th, 2012, 12:29 PM   #166
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Yes it does refer to 1 Nine Elms
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Old December 19th, 2012, 02:44 PM   #167
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I don't think that is referring to One Nine Elms, different developer and different floor heights.

edit: This is the scheme that has been approved - http://www.vauxhallsquare.co.uk/ it's by Allies and Morrison and is IMO the most boring part of all the schemes in the area, but as this has been granted planning permission I think it likely One Nine Elms will be too.

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Old December 19th, 2012, 04:58 PM   #168
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One Nine Elms already has detailed planning permission. Read the first post of the thread.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 06:31 PM   #169
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This is gonna get confusing. Can we get some decent nicknames please to differentiate?

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The upside down back to front thing that looks remarkably like something else

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Old December 19th, 2012, 07:24 PM   #170
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This area all they way down to Clapham Junction needs renovation, it is good to see a good chunk of that section being revitalised.

Not sure on the mis-match and random plonking of buildings, I prefer a bit more fluidity and symmetry, it's just one random building after another random building. I guess they are just trying to echo London's mix of architecture.

There is a terrible looking housing estate somewhere along there, before Vauxhall I think. Is that going to be bulldozed?
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Old December 19th, 2012, 09:39 PM   #171
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i think this refers to one nine elms but not sure
This is Vauxhall Square. Construction isn't planned to start on this until 2015 with all phases eventually complete by 2020.

One Nine Elms was approved back in June and should start construction next year.


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Old January 2nd, 2013, 04:36 PM   #172
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One finger up at UNESCO and English Heritage.
Since a heck of a lot of EH members are anti-building and anti-development, it is probably in the interest of EH leadership to be seen to be opposing these things. But I would rather EH concentrate on providing suggestions to project developers, as to how to integrate their buildings etc, rather than simply saying NO.

Simon Thurleigh is pretty good for EH in my opinion. He is aware that you cannot keep the country in aspic in a modern globalised economy, and does try to encourage responsible development...He's just been a bit undermined in his efforts by recession induced ****-ups like Apethorphe.

UNESCO can butt out though! People will continue to visit London, it already has a high profile, even if UNESCO publicly tore the epaulets off of London's shoulders. London is a capital city, a world city, and a centre of global trade...It will always need to grow and evolve. To turn it into some sort of Lubeck like fantasy city would kill it stone dead.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #173
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http://www.propertyweek.com/ballymor...048199.article

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Ballymore is in negotiations with the Netherlands and another, as yet unnamed, country for two new UK embassies in the Nine Elms regeneration area in Wandsworth.

With the new US embassy already under construction at the site, this would create a total of three new embassies at Ballymore’s Embassy Gardens scheme.

The Dutch embassy will be developed next to the £500m US embassy.

The Netherlands is understood to be close to finalising the agreement with Ballymore and an announcement is expected later this month.Ballymore is in negotiations with the Netherlands and another, as yet unnamed, country for two new UK embassies in the Nine Elms regeneration area in Wandsworth.

With the new US embassy already under construction at the site, this would create a total of three new embassies at Ballymore’s Embassy Gardens scheme.

The Dutch embassy will be developed next to the £500m US embassy.

The Netherlands is understood to be close to finalising the agreement with Ballymore and an announcement is expected later this month.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #174
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Hopefully, the Dutch embassy will be architecturally ambitious.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 11:55 PM   #175
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Well, if it would be on par with our embassy in Berlin it would.
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Exactly what I was thinking when I said that! I've been in the Berlin embassy. It's very interesting.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 03:32 PM   #177
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Well, if it would be on par with our embassy in Berlin it would.


Oh dear! It's been hit with the ugly stick.

Also, though they wouldn't have known when originally built, it now unfortunately bears a resemblance to some nutter's remodelling of an old favourite from a few years back:



(I would link to that website, but it's a conspiracy site, so not worth doing!)
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Old January 5th, 2013, 08:50 PM   #178
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:51 PM   #179
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They look nothing like each other. The only building to resemble the WTC is MVRDV's 'The Cloud' twin tower scheme, which received so much internet viral hatred it forced a redesign: http://static.dezeen.com/uploads/201...by-MVRDV_1.jpg
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Old January 5th, 2013, 11:17 PM   #180
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I think OMA is so experimental that the buildings only work for me about 50% of the time. That's not a bad success ratio considering how much creative 'risk' they inject into their projects. But I can easily understand why they don't float your boat.
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