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Old November 28th, 2012, 11:43 PM   #161
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I just want them to get rid of all the skanky shops in the base of this building. Thankfully that weird leather shop has gone. Next that cafe and the cheap tanning shop, they need replacing with something nice.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:08 AM   #162
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Least the units are being used. Last time I walked up there it wasn't bad at all. We can't have it all full of
nice shops as so to speak but every day type shops. Like the fact that the railway book and model shop is still trading there. And if more upmarket cafe experience is required there is the chains inside the station itself.
Think in all there is a good mix of businesses trading in the retail units.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:58 AM   #163
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I'd love it if the panels on the building had interchangeable coloured lights (close encounters stlyle) - would make a very dramatic entrance to the city in the dark!
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Old November 29th, 2012, 06:33 PM   #164
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I'd love it if the panels on the building had interchangeable coloured lights (close encounters stlyle) - would make a very dramatic entrance to the city in the dark!
I would hope a lighting scheme is incorporated on the building facade. It has a beautiful shape and is passed by millions of people each year.

The New 42 Studio in New York is clad in dichroic glass and changes colour depending on the angle of light. Gateway House would look spectacular from Piccadilly if something could be done.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 07:04 PM   #165
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I'd love it if the panels on the building had interchangeable coloured lights (close encounters stlyle) - would make a very dramatic entrance to the city in the dark!
According to the article on The Business Desk and Architects Journal it will have some form of artisctic presence.

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"The desire is for the façade to capture the dynamism of Station Approach, whereby over 20 million people pass every year. The proposal is to utilise LED lights that will create the largest piece of public artwork in the city."
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1018561&page=6

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Old November 30th, 2012, 02:38 AM   #166
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With regards to the lighting scheme, they've somewhat rewritten the D+A statement for the new prop. In the previous app,
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The façade will be activated further by its lighting strategy. The desire is for the façade to capture the dynamism of Station Approach whereby over 20 million people pass every year.

Refer to separate lighting report.
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Within the colonnade, strips of LED lights are proposed for the shops’ signage to further animate the development in a similar manner to the facade above.

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.g...2-dsx-0001.pdf (p.14)
Can't actually find the 'lighting report' attached to the app to see what was proposed.

Anyway, that becomes in the new design statement,
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Within the colonnade, strips of LED lights are proposed for the shops’ signage to animate the development at ground level.

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.g...1-dsx-0001.pdf (p.14)
Don't think there's any further details on possible illumination, might have missed it. Do hope something is planned.

Comparing the facade treatment,

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A very minor change with the new scheme, leaving a gap by the station, previously to be filled with additional retail. This is after comments from Ballymore.
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One change from the previous scheme however has been to remove the extended retail unit at the southern end of Gateway House that closed the gap between Gateway House and Piccadilly Station. This is in response to comments from Ballymore, a neighbouring property owner, during the public consultation associated with the previous application.

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.g...1-dsx-0001.pdf (p.7)


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Old November 30th, 2012, 11:44 AM   #167
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Ballymore own the Piccadilly tower site...
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Old November 30th, 2012, 04:05 PM   #168
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Ballymore own the Piccadilly tower site...
Interesting. I still believe the Piccadilly Tower proposal is not dead. Ballymore have just been developing in London during the crisis as the margins are higher and there is less risk.

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Old January 9th, 2013, 03:24 PM   #169
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Off to committee as well, recommended approve.

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/egov_do...eway_House.pdf

In the summary of an objection seemingly from Ballymore (p.2/3),
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They also contend that to approve this application in isolation would potentially result in a lost strategic opportunity which would create the opportunity to plan Grade A office accommodation from which many jobs would flow and create the opportunity for a first class business destination in this location.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 08:41 PM   #170
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Looks like work is finally underway to redevelop Gateway House on Station Approach, can see plenty of workmen on site #manchester #buildings

https://twitter.com/m_trav/status/369405689178775552

Someone says on Twitter. Anyone seen any activity as well while walking past Piccadilly last few days? I've heard no announcement work will start so I'm not assuming anything for the time being.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 08:46 PM   #171
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That would be typical on the same day that both you and I are at it slagging Realty off because they don't actually do anything with their properties.

Hoping we're both wrong about Realty though this is a great development
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Old August 21st, 2013, 09:12 PM   #172
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There have been a few work vans parked up behind the building on the corner entrance next to the old Avis building, the vans were builders vans, with the company being something along the lines of BT Building Skip etc. There has also been a lot of building equipment in that entrance whenever I walked past on my walk to and from work a few weeks back.

Possibly the Coop Food closing was the first sign of things afoot?
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Old August 21st, 2013, 09:35 PM   #173
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Possibly the Coop Food closing was the first sign of things afoot?
Possibly - because didn't you say that it was odd that this one was closing due to it being so busy?
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Old August 21st, 2013, 09:37 PM   #174
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Well it never looked that busy, but you would think it would be, with the amount of footfall that goes pas the store. Also the lease for Coop Food has been on market for a bit too, but they could have seen work fully starting as a good reason to exit the location maybe?
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Old August 21st, 2013, 11:03 PM   #175
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I agree, I think the high footfall is misleading - too many people rushing past - and strong competition in the shape of Sainsbury's or M&S in the station, where passengers will see them first or will be lingering outside them more.
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Old August 22nd, 2013, 02:33 PM   #176
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I rang Realty estates who said this is due to start refurbishment in February
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February 2013? 2014? 2015...16..17...????
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I rang Realty estates who said this is due to start refurbishment in February
February my ****........

All talk no do.
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Old August 22nd, 2013, 06:06 PM   #179
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I rang Realty estates who said this is due to start refurbishment in February
Bet they laughed down the phone wondering who this little boy was asking questions.
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February 2013? 2014? 2015...16..17...????
No no, 2014

I realise that this is totally unrealistic though, considering, erm, Realty.
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