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View Poll Results: Do you think putting a spire on top of a skyscraper is not needed?
Yes 4 26.67%
No 5 33.33%
Don't care 6 40.00%
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Old November 30th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #1
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Do you think putting a spire on top of a skyscraper is not needed?

Personally I like having them.

EDIT: There has been a lot of confusion over than question, I apologize. The question is Are Spires not needed? A no vote means yes spires are needed (because it is disagreeing with the statement). And Yes means spires are not needed. If there is anymore confusion PM me. Many thanks.

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Old November 30th, 2012, 12:40 PM   #2
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Do you think putting a spire on top of a skyscraper is not needed?

You might want to re word the question.
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Old November 30th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #3
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Do you think putting a spire on top of a skyscraper is not needed?

You might want to re word the question.
What I mean is that is that is a spire not needed on a Skyscraper?
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Old November 30th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #4
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FFS.
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Old November 30th, 2012, 06:52 PM   #5
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Do skyscrapers need spires?
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Old November 30th, 2012, 06:56 PM   #6
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Depends. I got used to Pan Peninusula without one which with hindsight might have looked odd. Heron's is too small to make any impact from the east and the Shard never got its one.
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Old November 30th, 2012, 07:16 PM   #7
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It does depend. They really look great on the Chrysler Building or the Empire State.



However it looks rubbish on the New York Times Building.

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Old November 30th, 2012, 07:44 PM   #8
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For a spire to work means two things (for me, anyway).

1 - The spire is on top of some tiered or tapered roof rather than opting for a stick on a flat roof.
2 - A good lighting scheme to showcase the spire, little point having a feature if you don't make it so (at night anyway).

Although there are always exceptions, one being Aurora Place in Sydney..



The spire isn't even on the highest part of the building but it works (although the presence of the fins would suggest it isn't necessarily needed (aesthetically)).
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Old December 1st, 2012, 12:10 PM   #9
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It does depend. They really look great on the Chrysler Building or the Empire State.
Agreed

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However it looks rubbish on the New York Times Building.

Looking east along 42nd street, the spires on a number of buildings (the chrysler being the furthest) really add drama from street level - especially on the approach to Times Square. The NYT building adds (a little) to that, though I thought this building really rather horrible. Quite mean of the architects to spoil the view from almost every window with that shitty mesh.

Take a look at this shot (taken from afar but you get the point (geddit?)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rabbit75/6177678061/
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Old December 1st, 2012, 12:15 PM   #10
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Actually, this is a better shot showing the spire on the NYT building:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rabbit7...in/photostream

It's not a patch on the Chrysler, but without it, the building wouldn't be adding much to the skyline from that angle.

Spires are a great chance for an architect to let go with some design flourishes. Many of the greatest buildings in Europe over a thousand years or more have made a great play of the treatment of the tops of the buildings that can be seen from afar.

Flat roofs are cheaper of course. The Shard could have just ended in a flattish stump. The gherkin could have ended in a round flat roof. Most of the tall buildings in CW do just end in a flat roof, and the cluster suffers as a result.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 12:27 PM   #11
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Now this is a spire!

Sorry for the machine-gun posting, but during our last trip to NYC we discovered that the Empire State Building's original spire was an airship mooring post!



http://tranquilitybaseblog.blogspot....o-heavens.html

It was a bit of a gimmick but can you imagine arriving in New York like that rather than having to endure the journey from JFK by crazy taxi?
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Old December 1st, 2012, 04:47 PM   #12
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Yeah, its a shame they were already pretty much dead by the time the Empire State was finished. Propeller Aircraft had made their mark by the mid 30's.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 05:41 PM   #13
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Do skyscrapers need spires?
Sorry to confuse everyone! What I mean is that are Spires not needed? Next time I need to not rush making a thread.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 05:46 PM   #14
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From a functional point of view, Spires are usually not needed. Unless they contain communications equipment and the like (I believe the Spinnaker Tower's spire does, not sure about other buildings across the UK). From an aesthetic point of view, unless the skyscraper is something that bases its style around the box format (8 Canada Square, 1 Undershaft) then a spire may actually be detrimental.
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Some more examples:



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Old December 1st, 2012, 06:33 PM   #16
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Sorry to confuse everyone! What I mean is that are Spires not needed?
It's the same question, you're just expressing it in an awkward way.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 07:33 PM   #17
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Exactly, how do you answer it? if you answer no to 'are spires not needed' that can be seen to be agreeing ('no, spires are not needed') or to disagree with the statement (spires not needed? - No, they are needed).
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