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Old December 5th, 2012, 02:48 PM   #1241
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And what are other definitions (i'm not talking US)? What is Chinese definition? Japanese? Korean?
I don't know thats why I said 200km/h isn't generally seen as high speed. Then you claimed an official definition to which I pointed out that that is only official in the EU. Keep up.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 04:46 PM   #1242
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There are 160km/h D trains running on upgraded conventional lines. C letters are no long in use since most have been converted to G trains (i.e. Beijing-Tianjin, Shanghai-Nanjing). Right now G means >300km/h, everything else is D.
I saw some videos on Youtube with CRH trains running on the conventional Shanghai-Nanjing railway in 2010 and it didn't seem to hit 200km/h that much. I'm not really sure but this is what I felt seeing the video. Kinda disappointing though since I thought D meant a guaranteed 200km/h speed at some portion of the trip. I guess that means a non-CRH train could get a D classification?

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Old December 5th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #1243
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I saw some videos on Youtube with CRH trains running on the conventional Shanghai-Nanjing railway in 2010 and it didn't seem to hit 200km/h that much. I'm not really sure but this is what I felt seeing the video. Kinda disappointing though since I thought D meant a guaranteed 200km/h speed at some portion of the trip. I guess that means a non-CRH train could get a D classification?
I'm actually confused by your question. The upgraded Shanghai-Nanjing conventional line does allow 200km/h travel, even up to 250km/h near Anting, and that's back in 2007 when the service first started. A none CRH train will not get a D designation because D and G are reserved for CRH trains. CRH and National Rail (China Rail, 国铁) are kind of two different branches of MOR, no matter how fast the conventional passengers train goes it will still only get a Z, K, or T designation.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 09:06 PM   #1244
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I'm actually confused by your question. The upgraded Shanghai-Nanjing conventional line does allow 200km/h travel, even up to 250km/h near Anting, and that's back in 2007 when the service first started. A none CRH train will not get a D designation because D and G are reserved for CRH trains. CRH and National Rail (China Rail, 国铁) are kind of two different branches of MOR, no matter how fast the conventional passengers train goes it will still only get a Z, K, or T designation.
You mentioned that D trains could have a maximum speed of 160km/h when I thought D trains always run at least 200km/h. That's where I got confused about the D classification since high speed by international standards is 200km/h.

There is a picture of the new 25T cars that show a speed of 160km/h you posted in the other thread so I thought those would get the D classification for running 160km/h.

Anyway, I just got confused about what D is supposed to represent. Didn't know that D could represent slower than "high speed" trips.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 01:44 AM   #1245
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You mentioned that D trains could have a maximum speed of 160km/h when I thought D trains always run at least 200km/h. That's where I got confused about the D classification since high speed by international standards is 200km/h.

There is a picture of the new 25T cars that show a speed of 160km/h you posted in the other thread so I thought those would get the D classification for running 160km/h.

Anyway, I just got confused about what D is supposed to represent. Didn't know that D could represent slower than "high speed" trips.
Yeah speed is not strictly related to the CRH brand, it's nothing but a brand, D means EMU, not necessarily high speed. Even if the 25T runs 250km/h pulled by a crazily tuned HXD1 as long as it's under China Rail it's still not a CRH service and will not get a D or G designation.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 01:56 AM   #1246
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Yeah speed is not strictly related to the CRH brand, it's nothing but a brand, D means EMU, not necessarily high speed. Even if the 25T runs 250km/h pulled by a crazily tuned HXD1 as long as it's under China Rail it's still not a CRH service and will not get a D or G designation.
Wow, thanks for clearing this up for me. They could slap a CRH sticker on the train but I doubt they would do that...haha.
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Hong Kong Version of CRH380A
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Old December 13th, 2012, 04:38 AM   #1248
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Old December 13th, 2012, 05:29 AM   #1250
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Livery goes a long way to make a train look better, very nice!
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Oh dear... this is too much! TOO MUCH!!!
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Livery goes a long way to make a train look better, very nice!
Hmm, is it just a new livery? Looks like there's some other difference to me.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 09:51 PM   #1253
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Hmm, is it just a new livery? Looks like there's some other difference to me.
Nope, just the livery.
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CRH6 driving through Sifang.

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CSR has signed a RMB 2.84 billion contract to supply CRH6 transets to Pearl River Delta Intercity Rail Transit Co. Ltd.

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CRH380D-6601 testing
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Nice... let's wait to see "crh500" running
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据悉，按初步计划，2013年铁路新增时速300公里的动车或达到240列，新增时速250公里的动车或达到260列。

The Chinese MOR is planning to lauch new EMU oeders, looks like about 500 trainsets will be ordered
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That is a colossal order. It is like more than rest of the world inventory put together
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Nice... let's wait to see "crh500" running
With trunk lines opening one by one they are running out of lines that can facilitate its record breaking run.

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Not really, it's just China's HSR lines are still way, way under used. Most of the lines are not running at nearly the frequency of the Japanese.
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