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Old December 6th, 2012, 12:22 AM   #1301
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Sorry to be negative occasionally, but that thing even looks worse in the newspaper, almost like 5-6 trainees each were assigned a portion to build, then they glued it together.

When you look at all the arenas around the world, what would you like it to look like?

If you like the Staples Center why would you need the solar panels when it doesnt have a lot of sun up there during the season?
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Old December 6th, 2012, 12:51 AM   #1302
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One of the problems with our high water table is the inability to significantly depress the seating bowls of our stadiums/arena in the Sodo district. Hence, they all rather loom larger on the skyline than what I'd prefer.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 09:39 AM   #1303
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m - Your question got me thinking. I'm torn between something far out like the Library or more staid and classy like Benaroya Hall, leaning toward the latter. Ooo oo how about this .. since the other two structures soar, how about a fantastic (Sydney Opera House??) soaring structure for this site also, so the impact of all three is migrating birds taking off from the mud flats. Just a thought.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #1304
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m - Your question got me thinking. I'm torn between something far out like the Library or more staid and classy like Benaroya Hall, leaning toward the latter. Ooo oo how about this .. since the other two structures soar, how about a fantastic (Sydney Opera House??) soaring structure for this site also, so the impact of all three is migrating birds taking off from the mud flats. Just a thought.
We can make any structure fantastic, given enough money. The new Barclays Center in Brooklyn cost $1 Billion, we'll be having an arena for $450 million. Is it fair to kvetch when our arena doesn't have the same 'wow' factor? I'm not saying that Barclays is the pinnacle of arena design, just that the designers of our new arena will not be given the full 64 color box of crayolas to play with.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #1305
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We can make any structure fantastic, given enough money. The new Barclays Center in Brooklyn cost $1 Billion, we'll be having an arena for $450 million. Is it fair to kvetch when our arena doesn't have the same 'wow' factor? I'm not saying that Barclays is the pinnacle of arena design, just that the designers of our new arena will not be given the full 64 color box of crayolas to play with.
I think part of that $1Billion price tag is location. What does that arena cost in Seattle? $600 Million?
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Old December 6th, 2012, 08:34 PM   #1306
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And maybe I don't know what I'm talking about- I'm assuming the cost of land acquisition and construction in NYC is quite a bit more than Seattle.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 08:45 PM   #1307
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And maybe I don't know what I'm talking about- I'm assuming the cost of land acquisition and construction in NYC is quite a bit more than Seattle.
The developer paid MTA (Metropolitan Transit Authority) $100 million for the whole Atlantic Yards development{link below}, which includes the Barclays Arena, but is supposed to also have 20 other residential towers. My understanding is that Seattle's Arena will pay $20 Million to Hansen for the property he has already amassed, so most likely, the actual land prices are comparable.

So Brooklyn gets $1 Billion arena, minus land cost, Seattle gets $450 million arena, minus land cost ($430 million) we shouldn't be stunned we aren't getting a Taj Mahal of sports arenas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/ny...pagewanted=all
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Old December 12th, 2012, 06:11 PM   #1308
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Old December 12th, 2012, 07:01 PM   #1309
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I'm a huge Mariner Fan- but they are seriously clueless right now; let AMTRAK fight these fights. The M's cannot afford any bad press or further alienation of their fan base.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 07:55 PM   #1310
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Mariners should put some energy into fielding a half decent team.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 08:35 PM   #1311
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They're going to have a hell of a video wall, though!

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...s-video-board/

Maybe when the M's are playing poorly, they can put on an interesting game on it to keep the fans interested.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 02:49 AM   #1312
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http://nba.si.com/2012/12/12/seattle-arena-design/

Still far from complete, but an updated design of the Preferred Option 3.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 02:53 AM   #1313
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Orange.

Like everything else in the Emerald City. LOL
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:01 AM   #1314
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This interior shot looks pretty sweet to me.


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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:30 AM   #1315
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Will they start building the new arena if they don't have an NBA basketball or NHL hockey team? or are they waiting until they have one or the other before starting to build?
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:37 AM   #1316
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Not starting without an NBA team. Chris has been very clear and firm on this.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:39 AM   #1317
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Why is it so ugly?
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:50 AM   #1318
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"The design team will take input they received from the meeting, update their design and make another presentation in January. They also note that the colors and finishes on the arena are far from set, so people shouldn’t get too hung up on the orange."


Do hope that in the end its a brilliant, deep EMERALD GREEN.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 04:55 AM   #1319
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Why is it so ugly?
This

I dont mind stretching architectural boundaries, but i'd still like some half decent normalcy too.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 11:20 AM   #1320
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These make me like the arena designs a whole lot more. I like the idea of a very transparent facade with an inner part that actually constitutes the arena itself.
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