Prince George's County Development News

[murfneil]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

how did Anne Arundel and Baltimore get these "horrible" establishments and yet when it comes to PG, all of a sudden it's a bad idea

Its too late to undo the passage of the original five but the fact that they passed at all was only after a lot of promises that it was a LIMITED endeavor--not a blank check to pepper the state with more of the same. But the last ballot was barely finished being counted before talk started of another casino (and table games)--such blatant hypocrisy. To O'Malley's credit he perceived this and championed taking this straight to the voters so that they could hold the industry and the politicians to the original deal.

[rockin'.baltimorean]

thank you. Well-said....

[rockin'.baltimorean]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

Your post sounds as if PG county did something horrible to the state and that they don't deserve a shot at some nice economic development.

1)you're saying that this is not about competition to PG County??
2)"Crabs-in-a-basket" mentality??

Huh?? Really? Are you serious??

PG County wants to not only build a casino, but build the biggest casino/resort in the state. If it wasn't so much about competition, why not just settle for an "average-sized" casino @ Rosecroft? Also, they'd build it about 10-15 miles from Maryland Live, so now, you'd have 2 giant casinos in close proximity, which would truly be ass-backwards. Like murfniel said, PG had the chance to chime in on the original 5 casino sites, but for some reason, elected not to.......originally.

now, a little bit more than a year later, PG wants to create this miraculous bill because now, all of a sudden, officials in y'all's county finally woke up and realized the benefits a casino would have on the county's economy. At the same time, the rest of the state of Maryland is supposed to modify their casino plans to accommodate PG? No, I don't think so. Try again in 2016 when Peter Franchot is in office.......lol.

i'm ashamed to say this, but I know personally know tons of people in both Baltimore & PG areas that have the "it's us against them" mentality (when referring to each other's area), but I'm not one of those people. I'm just merely stating the facts, and the fact of this matter is that morally, it would be wrong for this casino to be built.

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by rockin'.baltimorean

1)you're saying that this is not about competition to PG County??
2)"Crabs-in-a-basket" mentality??

Huh?? Really? Are you serious??

Huh?? Really? Yes. I'm serious.

PG County wants to not only build a casino, but build the biggest casino/resort in the state. If it wasn't so much about competition, why not just settle for an "average-sized" casino @ Rosecroft?

PG county (Baker) never asked to build the "biggest". All Baker wanted was a high quality upscale establishment worthy of the quality of National Harbor. MGM offered the $800 million price tag. Now whether that translates in to something big or just high quality, we'll have to wait for the DSP. All Baker said was he didn't want some slots parlor like Hollywood. You can build classy without building big.

Who in their right mind would turn down the opportunity to massively improve an area deemed a destination with an $800 million brand name casino/resort? Especially coming from a company, MGM, that has the means to follow through? In this economy? Stop kidding yourself. Baltimore or any other county would've said yes in a heart beat. So stop hatin.

Also, they'd build it about 10-15 miles from Maryland Live, so now, you'd have 2 giant casinos in close proximity, which would truly be ass-backwards.

Ummm, that's 32.8 miles according to Google Maps from door-to-door on the fastest route. Not quite 10-15. Good try though. But look at this huge fail. According to Google Maps, the distance between Maryland Live! and the proposed site of the Baltimore casino is a whopping 12.4 miles! And they built Maryland Live! next to an outlet mall detached from any hotel in the middle of nowhere. Who voted for that? What's more ass backwards? At least the casino in PG will be on a hill within an entertainment destination overlooking the Potomac and DC and have an upscale hotel/spa with access to Old Town Alexandria and DC. Oh. And by the way, Maryland Live! is not a "giant" casino. It doesn't even have a hotel attached to it. I've seen bigger department stores.

Like murfniel said, PG had the chance to chime in on the original 5 casino sites, but for some reason, elected not to.......originally.

So who controlled the destiny of the other 5 sites then?

now, a little bit more than a year later, PG wants to create this miraculous bill because now, all of a sudden, officials in y'all's county finally woke up and realized the benefits a casino would have on the county's economy. At the same time, the rest of the state of Maryland is supposed to modify their casino plans to accommodate PG? No, I don't think so. Try again in 2016 when Peter Franchot is in office.......lol.

Correction: ..the benefits a casino would have on the county AND state's economy. All the money is not going to PG. ANd if you think about what you said, we had nothing to do with the 5 casinos being built. Yet, when we say hey, we have a great location for one that might benefit the county and the state as well, and bring in a major casino operator, somehow, that's unfair? You would rather PG AND Maryland to be without an awesome destination out of spite? lol Look here. If the tables were flipped and PG had a casino and Baltimore had a chance to lure MGM, I'd vote for it hands down. Because not only does it improve Baltimore as a destination, it improves the overall state. I could give a rat's ass who voted for what when. We have a multi-billion company ready to invest millions in the state and people want to play backwater politics......because...? What? And we wonder why Maryland is ranked near last in business climate. We always mess things up over stupid ish. "Oh PG wasn't concerned about casinos now they are. Oh they can get MGM to build a giant destination casino resort with jobs and revenue for the county and state. Well, I'm going to vote no because I have no real reason to."

i'm ashamed to say this, but I know personally know tons of people in both Baltimore & PG areas that have the "it's us against them" mentality (when referring to each other's area), but I'm not one of those people. I'm just merely stating the facts, and the fact of this matter is that morally, it would be wrong for this casino to be built.

Morally wrong? Hmmmmm. Let me understand this. It's morally wrong for a business to want to locate in an area where there is other competition. What you're saying applies to the very core of free enterprise. For example, if I wanted to open up a shoe store, it's morally wrong for me to do so because there may be other shoe stores in the area that may lose business from more competition? I though competition was good for business? Never knew it was morally wrong. I guess we should just have a country full of monopolies. That would certainly be more moral.

[adelphi_sky]

3350 at Alterra


Already broken ground.



Though I have to disagree with the following statement in that this is no where near the Arts District. It is completely on the opposite end of Hyattsville. Also, it's not quite steps from the metro. Mosaic and Post Park are actually closer.

The Hyattsville Arts District is quickly becoming one of the DC area’s most lively neighborhoods. Now, with the introduction of 3350 at Alterra, there is a new apartment community perfectly designed for the vibrant spirit of this unique location. Situated just steps from the Prince George’s Plaza Metro, 3350 at Alterra will offer top of the line apartment homes, amenities and services including:

[Coldspring]

I know this is all water under the bridge now that Question 7 has passed.. but it just seems as others have said this could have been done better.. Table Games and Slots at four(4) sites (Mountains, Beach, Baltimore, and National Harbor) period.. end of story.. Work out a revenue sharing arrangement where some of the surrounding counties near the casinos get a small piece of the action for their own communties and move on.. Each facility would have catered to a specific market and not been in direct competition with each other..

The Maryland Live debacle I think came about after the site was originally suppose to be at Laurel Race Track.. then when that didnt work out because of the whole licensing fee/bid thing... It was rebid and Cordish got it.. since he didnt own Laurel or have an agreement with the owners they (The State) allowed it to be moved to Arundel Mills (since both sites I believe were still in Anne Arudel County)..which would have been OK if the whole National Harbor thing wasnt going to happen.. But somehow by whatever dubious means that crept into the picture years later after it was initially rejected by the powers that be in PG and the deal got done and the pot sweetened for those who worked on it and the casino industry.. Again.. Im not bemoaning the fact that PG has a casino or the benefits to the State.. its just that this could have been better handled and planned out..The way it is now it looks like the Casino industry from outside the state came in and paid politicos off to get this question on the ballot and then the money, on both sides, started to flow lobbyists and special interests got paid, political campaigns funded for 2014 and 2016 and friends and family members of politicos will have nice "consulting" and "PR" jobs at the new casinos........

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by Coldspring

its just that this could have been better handled and planned out..The way it is now it looks like the Casino industry from outside the state came in and paid politicos off to get this question on the ballot and then the money, on both sides, started to flow lobbyists and special interests got paid, political campaigns funded for 2014 and 2016 and friends and family members of politicos will have nice "consulting" and "PR" jobs at the new casinos........

Unfortunately, this happens with all industries whether it is agriculture, manufacturing, WAL-MART , or big oil. Big business and politics always had skeptical relationships. I'm not sure why anyone would think casinos should be any different. IN the end, more competition never hurt the consumer. The industry will shake itself out over time. There will be winners and losers as in any other industry.

[Coldspring]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

Unfortunately, this happens with all industries whether it is agriculture, manufacturing, WAL-MART , or big oil. Big business and politics always had skeptical relationships. I'm not sure why anyone would think casinos should be any different. IN the end, more competition never hurt the consumer. The industry will shake itself out over time. There will be winners and losers as in any other industry.

Maryland Live is already taking out some of their slots in order to make way for table games...Penn Nation has already expressed an interest in aquiring a portion of Maryland Live if Cordish makes it available.. We already know that Hollywood/Penn National is reducing the number of machines that they have in Perryville due to lack of demand. So, you are right.. things will start to shake out over the next five years starting with the likely closure of Penn National Hollywood Casino.. But they made their money.. by the time they close their building will be paid for and become the next super Walmart....

[adelphi_sky]

There are a number of noteworthy ground breakings going on in the county. Here are just a few:

1. The new Laurel Town Center
2. 3350 at Alterra behind The Mall at Prince Georges
3. Tanger Outlets
4. Domain at College Park.
5. Brickyard Apartments in Beltsville
6. The Pallette in Arts District Hyattsville

[Coldspring]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

There are a number of noteworthy ground breakings going on in the county. Here are just a few:

1. The new Laurel Town Center
2. 3350 at Alterra behind The Mall at Prince Georges
3. Tanger Outlets
4. Domain at College Park.
5. Brickyard Apartments in Beltsville
6. The Pallette in Arts District Hyattsville

You seem pretty knowledgeable about Prince George's County... I was curious if you knew why there are so many municipalities in the County? I mean there are dozens of small towns in and around the beltway.. many of which are certainly economically challenged. Just wondered why there are so many and why some dont consolidate and pool their resources........I mean does Brentwood and North Brentwood really need to be separate communities??? I am not trying to offend anybody.. I'm sure there are Optimist Clubs, Kiwanis Club, Garden Club groups and what not that may not want to consider this along with some posters in addition to Mayors and Town Councils who love their towns.. Its just an honest inquiry... Thanks

[Balmurfan]

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sp...182448391.html

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by Coldspring

You seem pretty knowledgeable about Prince George's County... I was curious if you knew why there are so many municipalities in the County? I mean there are dozens of small towns in and around the beltway.. many of which are certainly economically challenged. Just wondered why there are so many and why some dont consolidate and pool their resources........I mean does Brentwood and North Brentwood really need to be separate communities??? I am not trying to offend anybody.. I'm sure there are Optimist Clubs, Kiwanis Club, Garden Club groups and what not that may not want to consider this along with some posters in addition to Mayors and Town Councils who love their towns.. Its just an honest inquiry... Thanks

Well, for one, Prince George's County is a pretty large county that spans all neighborhood types from urban, to suburban, to rural. Second, a lot of those "towns" are really neighborhood names and are not incorporated. It's just a way of being able to identify an area. Third, it takes money to "pool resources." If you're already economically challenged, then it would be pretty hard to pool resources that would pay higher local taxes for a self contained police force, town hall, services such as trash pickups, etc.

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by Balmurfan

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sp...182448391.html

It's silly season. I think the FBI will do well in Greenbelt.

[Nino_B]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

There are a number of noteworthy ground breakings going on in the county. Here are just a few:

1. The new Laurel Town Center
2. 3350 at Alterra behind The Mall at Prince Georges
3. Tanger Outlets
4. Domain at College Park.
5. Brickyard Apartments in Beltsville
6. The Pallette in Arts District Hyattsville

Where is the Tanger Outlets going?

Also, any news on the Konterra development?

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by Nino_B

Where is the Tanger Outlets going?

Also, any news on the Konterra development?

The Tanger Outlets are going across Oxon Hill RD. at National Harbor.

Konterra is pretty much on hold until the last leg of the ICC is finished. I would expect a groundbreaking date to be announced sometime next year when the ICC opens.

[rockin'.baltimorean]

Originally Posted by Balmurfan

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sp...182448391.html

i'm surprised that Rushern Baker (PG County Exec.) isn't even considering this swap. Maybe he needs time for the proposed offer to simmer in........lol.

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by rockin'.baltimorean

i'm surprised that Rushern Baker (PG County Exec.) isn't even considering this swap. Maybe he needs time for the proposed offer to simmer in........lol.

Why should he? The DC Government has no say where the FBI goes.

[rockin'.baltimorean]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

Why should he? The DC Government has no say where the FBI goes.

well, yeah. true.

since ya' put it that way.....

[adelphi_sky]

Leggett announces Percontee firm as builder of $3 billion science center in Montgomery

While the new science center will be located in Montgomery County in White Oak, this is good news for Northern PG in places like Calverton, Laurel, Adelphi, and College Park. All of these areas are less then 5 miles from White Oak which could serve as an employment hub for those areas. In addition, PG can go after companies that will want to locate near the science center which is described as the eastern version of the I-270 science corridor. Keep in mind that this is one of those 20 year plans. But at least it's a plan. They will try to break ground as soon as possible as the FDA complained about the lack of amenities in eastern Montgomery County. The FDA saw the plans and is very excited and wants things to move along quickly.

Montgomery County Executive Isiah Leggett wants to create a $3 billion life sciences research center at a former sludge composting facility site north of White Oak, and on Friday he announced the private partner the county selected to build it.

...


Leggett (D) said in a news conference on Friday that the life sciences center, to be called LifeSci Village, would become a “true mixed-use legacy development project” that would drive the economy for eastern Montgomery County for generations to come.
“This will literally turn a brownfield into a world-class bio sciences employment and research center,” Leggett said.
Montgomery County Council member Nancy Navarro (D-Eastern County) said that residents in the county’s eastern area were eager for a core center of employment and commerce.
“This is the part of the county that has been waiting for a very long time,” she said.

[adelphi_sky]

The Domain at College Park is coming along nicely with more than have the retail space leased. This will be the first, and hopefully not the last, mixed-use development for West Campus. This development will also tie into the future Purple Line and hopefully spur more like-minded development. Potentially where the current commuter surface parking lot currently exists across the street. With a transit line, there would be less need for that much surface parking.

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