UKRAINE | Railways

[XAN_]

Originally Posted by thainoodles

I wonder how safe it will be, because lets be honest it's not a problem to buy a train capable of reaching speeds over 200km/h but condition of the tracks and whole infrastucture surrounding them may be not good enough. It might be better to improve the quality of rail infrastructure in Ukraine first, because i have a feeling that this whole deal with HSR is just to show those damned westerners that they can do this too.

Actually, there is a fare number of 160 km\h stretches with possible further upgrade up to 200, so the only question - when the budget will grant money for the upgrade.

[SkyGurt]

New metro cars produced by Ukrainian company KVSZ.

metro car mod. 81-7021





metro car mod. 81-7036 in service already (Kyiv metro).

[SkyGurt]

Originally Posted by thainoodles

I wonder how safe it will be, because lets be honest it's not a problem to buy a train capable of reaching speeds over 200km/h but condition of the tracks and whole infrastucture surrounding them may be not good enough. It might be better to improve the quality of rail infrastructure in Ukraine first, because i have a feeling that this whole deal with HSR is just to show those damned westerners that they can do this too.

You probably need to know that westerners do not use HSR trains. For example, USA (except brief segments up to 240 km/h for Acela Express), Canada, Australia & New Zealand do not have them. If you are referring to western Europe, some of countries produce good trains, but we don't need to show anything to anyone.
The idea with HSR trains is to build a strong production line and get into world competition. Now we have HRS trains and we also work on improving infrastructure. Hope this clarifies.

[SkyGurt]

Originally Posted by XAN_

Actually, there is a fare number of 160 km\h stretches with possible further upgrade up to 200, so the only question - when the budget will grant money for the upgrade.

Wrong point. The government was clear - you need to have good economical reasons to run 200+ km/h trains. Thinks about safety also: bypassing rails should be physically prohibited. Shinkansen is a good example: no death incidents for the 40+ years of service. To build viaducts, tunnels and other safety objects will require huge investments and may be done, but I believe, that private sector will be highly involved. As it was announced before, private investors may be involved in passenger rail transport in 5 years.
On the other side, government has a project to connect Moscow (Russia) with Kyiv (Ukraine) with a high speed infrastructure. Let's see how it goes, but don't just blindly judge the government.

[XAN_]

Well, in Europe there is a great number of classic lines upgraded up to 200, and they aren't all fenced everywhere... And I see no reason why Ukraine can't copy this solutions.

[SkyGurt]

Originally Posted by XAN_

Well, in Europe there is a great number of classic lines upgraded up to 200, and they aren't all fenced everywhere... And I see no reason why Ukraine can't copy this solutions.

It is also fenced in S. Korea. It also may be done this way.
I'm afraid of "neighbor solution" where 20 people are killed every year by Sapsan train: it's madness to run 200+km/h trains on a ground without fencing railways.

[SkyGurt]

Originally Posted by XAN_

Well it may be the sexiest, but only if they fix the sides, so they will look plain, not like a field after carpet bombing
But the front is really sexy, slightly resembling Pendolino before it's last redesign.

I believe it's cellophane or any other type of film

[Igor L.]

Donetsk

Originally Posted by Harisson

«Донецк. Железнодорожный вокзал» на Яндекс.Фотках

[SkyGurt]

More nice fotos for you, guys.

[XAN_]

But this is a subway train, build by KVSZ, not a railway one.

[SkyGurt]

[Kin74na]

Originally Posted by SkyGurt

It is also fenced in S. Korea. It also may be done this way.
I'm afraid of "neighbor solution" where 20 people are killed every year by Sapsan train: it's madness to run 200+km/h trains on a ground without fencing railways.

19 people died under Sapsan during 3 years. Main reason: they are russians and it's lifestyle to play with fire, to walk through/along railway with headset and/or don't look around or just drunk. Most people died near stations or road crossing, but 0 car accidents at that time with Sapsan. Pedestrians usually much less think about safety on railroad... in Russia people don't like to go by overhead crossing if possible to go straight and very often they do holes in fences.

P.S. When people jump from bridge, bridge not kill people...

[Igor L.]

Originally Posted by Kin74na

19 people died under Sapsan during 3 years. Main reason: they are russians and it's lifestyle to play with fire, to walk through/along railway with headset and/or don't look around or just drunk.

P.S. When people jump from bridge, bridge not kill people...

I agree...

[Harisson]

http://www.parovoz.com

[Igor L.]

Lviv

Originally Posted by Romashka01

http://lvivlife.livejournal.com/

[SkyGurt]

Originally Posted by Igor L.

Lviv

Nice pic! Lviv is amazing city.

[SkyGurt]

Beautiful high speed sleeping coach (220 km/h) made in Ukraine by KVSZ

[SkyGurt]

Guys, any news about KVSZ high speed train? When do they plan to finish testing and introduce it into service?

[SkyGurt]

One more high speed coach from KVSZ

[Igor L.]

Originally Posted by SkyGurt

Lviv is amazing city.

I agree with you. Lviv is one of the most beautiful cities in the world.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1455033