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Brickell CityCentre (u/c)
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Miami
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If it doesn't work out that way, hopefully the completed project will turn out a lot better than you expected.
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New York City
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As a former resident of the neighborhood who lived a block away from the site I am going to say that even if that surface lot is gone when your guests arrive, there is still a ton of overnight and daytime parking in the area. The hotel and MM are practically surrounded with structured parking. I know for a fact that the residential parking for the building I lived in was less than 1/3 full every night.
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All American City Boy
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Uptown, Chicago
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The problem here is these are not bad designs, they just aren't up to par for what the site is. If these buildings were placed anywhere else in the city, they would be welcome with open arms. The real issue here is the location these buildings are set for. This is Wolf Point, a historically important site for the city of Chicago that also happens to be a very visually prominent site. This land parcel is essentially a stage that a huge amount of people are going to have a clear view to and as being such a visually prominent site, the project deserves a world class design which unfortunately this is not. These are glass buildings that would easily disappear into any other group of nondescript buildings.
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Brickell CityCentre (u/c)
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Oh, I see! The site itself deserves better.
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Steven Vance
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
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Alderman Reilly just sent this email (11-27-12 14:17):
"Alderman Brendan Reilly today asked the Chicago Plan Commission to defer consideration of the Wolf Point development proposal and remove it from the agenda for today's Plan Commission Hearing. The Alderman announced his decision after receiving the final documents that would govern the planned development on Monday, less than 24 hours prior to today's hearing. Further, the final documents submitted to the city did not accurately reflect the significant changes to the proposal that the Alderman negotiated on behalf of his constituents in the River North and Fulton River District neighborhoods. [snip] At Alderman Reilly's request, the Chicago Plan Commission is deferring consideration of the Wolf Point proposal to allow additional time for public input regarding the "bulk table" that dictates programming and uses for the site. Although the item is being deferred, the Alderman said he believes all other major issues related to the project have been resolved relating to: architecture, the site plan, public open space and traffic management. He said he believes the last unresolved issue is the "bulk table" that provides specifics related to the breakdown and location of residential, hotel and office use on the site."
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All American City Boy
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Uptown, Chicago
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image hosted on flickr
![]() Wolf Point Quick History by HomrQT, on Flickr Thanks to http://friendsofwolfpoint.com/ for putting it together
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ELP ~ ABQ
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Wolf Point Vote Could Come Next Week
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All American City Boy
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Uptown, Chicago
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Possible future view of Wolf Point.
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
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Love it!!!!
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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I am loving this project, it is good to see it is still moving forward. I am looking forward to seeing these towers rising on my future trips to Chicago.
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All American City Boy
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Uptown, Chicago
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They are not bad, but I wish more creative design went into them. Like this...
![]() The site is so historic, so visually important, it deserves an award winning design. And the Kennedy's have the money/resources to make it happen.
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Brickell CityCentre (u/c)
Join Date: Mar 2008
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I like what's planned better.
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All American City Boy
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Uptown, Chicago
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Fair enough, we each have our opinions. Are you fully satisfied with what's planned or do you think a better design could/should be implemented?
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Brickell CityCentre (u/c)
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I'm not fully satisfied with it, but at the same time, I don't have an example of what I think might work better either, so I really can't say, HomrQT. I'd have to see more examples.
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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I have to say that I like the towers because they seem to be very simple and elegant without being just boxy floor plates or cluttered with detail so that it clashes with the Merchandise Mart.
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CHICAGO
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I like them because they block out the Chicago Apparel Center. I have far bigger ideas for the property but all would need the Apperal Center to be torn down!
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All American City Boy
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Uptown, Chicago
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The Apparel Mart is an abomination. Could you imagine if they tore it down and made the entire site the project?!
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: chicago
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Even better if a decade or so from now they'd knock it down and build a real supertall. Now that's a spot I wouldn't mind seeing a 2000 footer, dwarfing Wolf Point too.
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CHICAGO
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I just picture some supertall that tapers away from the river to a point, (white maybe) with a very large public plaza in front. Also i would redo/ add a riverwalk in front of the Merchandise Mart to bring it all together. To bad i dont have a few billion dollars !
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ELP ~ ABQ
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West Tower will be first to go up at Wolf Point
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