【China】at Night in 2012 by NASA satellite

[VECTROTALENZIS]

1992



2010

[teddybear]

significant changes over the years, the dots getting bigger!

[VECTROTALENZIS]

Look at differences between 1992 and 2010.
Japan and to an extent Taiwan haven't changed at all while South Korea and China has grown tremendously.

[drunkenmunkey888]

Its interesting how Chengdu has a larger bright area and is brighter than Chongqing.

[VECTROTALENZIS]

The whole metropolitan area of Chengdu is actually larger than Chongqing. Chengdu is also more spread out with more suburbs and surrounding small-towns while Chongqing is more compact with almost no suburbs and satellite cities. Chongqing is a bit alone there due to the fact Chongqing has really never been a large and important city in that region. It has only started to grow large and important after it became an own municipality in 1997. Before it was overshadowed by Chengdu.

[null]

Originally Posted by Celebriton

What no electricity? Satellite photo don't lie!

There are some part of India, but not as worse as China.

Figures dont lie...

Originally Posted by Kolony

This is a thread about worldwide electricity consumption. It includes Countries and Dependencies/Territories.
Statistics from 2005-2012
Here is the list from wikipedia:

1. China - 4,693,000 MW h/yr
2. the U.S.A. - 3,741,000 MW h/yr
3. India - 905,974,000 MW h/yr
4. Japan - 859,700,000 MW h/y
5. Russia - 857,600,000 MW h/yr
6. Germany - 607,000,000 MW h/yr
7. Canada - 549,500,000 MW h/yr
8. France - 460,900,000 MW h/yr
9. Brazil - 455,700,000 MW h/yr
10. South Korea - 455,100,000 MW h/yr
11. the United Kingdom - 344,700,000 MW h/yr
12. Italy - 309,900,000 MW h/yr
13. Spain - 267,500,000 MW h/yr
14. Australia - 225,400,000 MW h/yr
15. Taiwan - 220,800,000 MW h/yr
16. South Africa - 212,200,000 MW h/yr
17. Iran - 206,700,000 MW h/yr
18. Mexico - 181,500,000 MW h/yr
19. Saudi Arabia - 174,500,000 MW h/yr
20. Turkey - 161,000,000 MW h/yr
21. Ukraine - 134,600,000 MW h/yr
22. Poland - 132,200,000 MW h/yr
23. Sweden - 132,100,000 MW h/yr
24. Thailand - 131,600,000 MW h/yr
25. Indonesia - 126,100,000 MW h/yr
26. Norway - 115,600,000 MW h/yr
27. the Netherlands - 112,500,000 MW h/yr
28. Egypt - 109,100,000 MW h/yr
29. Argentina - 104,700,000 MW h/yr
30. Vietnam - 101,000,000 MW h/yr
31. Malaysia - 93,800,000 MW h/yr
32. Kazakhstan - 88,110,000 MW h/yr
33. Venezuela - 85,850,000 MW h/yr
34. Belgium - 84,780,000 MW h/yr
35. Finland - 83,090,000 MW h/yr
36. Pakistan - 74,850,000 MW h/yr
37. the U.A.E. - 70,580,000 MW h/yr
38. Austria - 65,670,000 MW h/yr
39. Greece - 59,530,000 MW h/yr
40. Czech Republic - 59,260,000 MW h/yr
41. Switzerland - 57,500,000 MW h/yr
42. Chile - 56,350,000 MW h/yr
43. Iraq - 55,660,000 MW h/yr
44. Philippines - 54,400,000 MW h/yr
45. Romania - 51,460,000 MW h/yr
46. Portugal - 48,270,000 MW h/yr
47. Israel - 47,160,000 MW h/yr
48. Hong Kong - 43,140,000 MW h/yr
49. Kuwait - 42,580,000 MW h/yr
50. Hungary - 42,570,000 MW h/yr
51. Singapore - 41,200,000 MW h/yr
52. Uzbekistan - 40,100,000 MW h/yr
53. Colombia - 38,820,000 MW h/yr
54. New Zealand - 38,271,000 MW h/yr
55. Serbia - 35,500,000 MW h/yr
56. Peru - 34,250,000 MW h/yr
57. Denmark - 32,070,000 MW h/yr
58. Belarus - 31,070,000 MW h/yr
59. Algeria - 30,500,000 MW h/yr
60. Syria - 28,990,000 MW h/yr
61. Slovakia - 28,760,000 MW h/yr
62. Bulgaria - 28,300,000 MW h/yr
63. Ireland - 26,100,000 MW h/yr
64. Bangladesh - 23,940,000 MW h/yr
65. Libya - 22,890,000 MW h/yr
66. Morocco - 21,470,000 MW h/yr
67. Puerto Rico - 19,460,000 MW h/yr
68. Croatia - 18,870,000 MW h/yr
69. North Korea - 18,850,000 MW h/yr
70. Azerbaijan - 18,800,000 MW h/yr
71. Qatar - 18,790,000 MW h/yr
72. Nigeria - 18,140,000 MW h/yr
73. Tajikistan - 16,700,000 MW h/yr
74. Iceland - 16,480,000 MW h/yr
75. Ecuador - 14,920,000 MW h/yr
76. Slovenia - 14,700,000 MW h/yr
77. Cuba - 14,200,000 MW h/yr
78. Oman - 13,250,000 MW h/yr
79. Turkmenistan - 13,000,000 MW h/yr
80. Dominican Republic - 12,870,000 MW h/yr
81. Tunisia - 12,490,000 MW h/yr
82. Zimbabwe - 12,470,000 MW h/yr
83. Jordan - 11,300,000 MW h/yr
84. Bosnia & Herzegovina - 10,800,000 MW h/yr
85. Bahrain - 10,480,000 MW h/yr
86. Lithuania - 10,300,000 MW h/yr
87. Mozambique - 10,180,000 MW h/yr
88. Lebanon - 9,793,000 MW h/yr
89. Sri Lanka - 9,268,000 MW h/yr
90. Georgia - 9,256,000 MW h/yr
91. Macedonia - 9,024,000 MW h/yr
92. Paraguay - 8,500,000 MW h/yr
93. Costa Rica 8,321,000 MW h/yr
94. Guatemala - 8,161,000 MW h/yr
95. Uruguay - 7,960,000 MW h/yr
96. Zambia - 7,614,000 MW h/yr
97. Kyrgyzstan - 7,474,000 MW h/yr
98. Estonia - 7,431,000 MW h/yr
99. Trinidad & Tobago - 7,246,000 MW h/yr
100. Albania - 6,593,000 MW h/yr
101. Honduras - 6,540,000 MW h/yr
102. Luxembourg - 6,453,000 MW h/yr
103. Jamaica - 6,400,000 MW h/yr
104. Bolivia - 6,301,000 MW h/yr
105. Latvia - 6,215,000 MW h/yr
106. Ghana - 6,060,000 MW h/yr
107. the D.R.C. - 6,036,000 MW h/yr
108. Panama - 5,805,000 MW h/yr
109. Armenia - 5,800,000 MW h/yr
110. El Salvador - 5,756,000 MW h/yr
111. Kenya - 5,738,000 MW h/yr
112. Kosovo - 5,674,000 MW h/yr
113. Nepal - 4,884,000 MW h/yr
114. Cameroon - 4,883,000 MW h/yr
115. Yemen - 4,646,000 MW h/yr
116. Burma - 4,630,000 MW h/yr
117. Cyprus - 4,556,000 MW h/yr
118. Moldova - 4,463,000 MW h/yr
119. Montenegro - 4,100,000 MW h/yr
120. Namibia - 3,928,000 MW h/yr
121. Sudan - 3,787,000 MW h/yr
122. Macau - 3,660,000 MW h/yr
123. Ivory Coast - 3,584,000 MW h/yr
124. Tanzania - 3,431,000 MW h/yr
125. Mongolia - 3,375,000 MW h/yr
126. Angola - 3,365,000 MW h/yr
127. Ethiopia - 3,357,000 MW h/yr
128. Brunei - 3,054,000 MW h/yr
129. Botswana - 2,850,000 MW h/yr
130. Papua New Guinea - 2,757,000 MW h/yr
131. Nicaragua - 2,646,000 MW h/yr
132. Mauritius - 2,234,000 MW h/yr
133. Laos - 2,230,000 MW h/yr
134. Malta - 1,991,000 MW h/yr
135. Uganda - 1,958,000 MW h/yr
136. The Bahamas - 1,907,000 MW h/yr
137. Senegal - 1,763,000 MW h/yr
138. New Caledonia - 1,674,000 MW h/yr
139. Gabon - 1,600,000 MW h/yr
140. Cambodia - 1,562,000 MW h/yr
141. Malawi - 1,559,000 MW h/yr
142. Suriname - 1,440,000 MW h/yr
143. Swaziland - 1,207,000 MW h/yr
144. Madagascar - 1,032,000 MW h/yr
145. Barbados - 945,000 MW h/yr
146. Fiji - 865,800 MW h/yr
147. Guinea - 855,600 MW h/yr
148. Aruba - 846,300 MW h/yr
149. the U.S. Virgin Islands - 784,500 MW h/yr
150. Guyana - 688,000 MW h/yr
151. Burkina Faso - 683,500 MW h/yr
152. Togo - 671,900 MW h/yr
153. Benin - 653,000 MW h/yr
154. Bermuda - 636,400 MW h/yr
155. Jersey - 630,100 MW h/yr
156. Niger - 626,000 MW h/yr
157. French Polenysia - 623,100 MW h/yr
158. Andorra - 598,700 MW h/yr
159. Palestine - 550,000 MW h/yr
160. Maldives - 542,000 MW h/yr
161. Cayman Islands - 537,500 MW h/yr
162. Republic of the Congo - 534,000 MW h/yr
163. Mauritania - 508,700 MW h/yr
164. Mali - 455,700 MW h/yr
165. Liberia - 311,600 MW h/yr
166. Haiti - 309,000 MW h/yr
167. St. Lucia - 308,000 MW h/yr
168. Somalia - 293,000 MW h/yr
169. Burundi - 273,400 MW h/yr
170. Faroe Islands - 268,800 MW h/yr
171. Djibouti - 260,400 MW h/yr
172. Seychelles - 241,800 MW h/yr
173. Greenland - 239,400 MW h/yr
174. Cape Verde - 238,600 MW h/yr
175. Rwanda - 236,800 MW h/yr
176. Lesotho - 236,000 MW h/yr
177. Afghanistan - 231,100 MW h/yr
178. Eritrea - 224,900 MW h/yr
179. The Gambia - 204,600 MW h/yr
180. Belize - 200,400 MW h/yr
181. Bhutan - 184,000 MW h/yr
182. Federated States of Micronesia - 178,600 MW h/yr
183. Grenada - 177,400 MW h/yr
184. American Samoa - 176,700 MW h/yr
185. Turks & Caicos - 162,800 MW h/yr
186. Gibraltar - 156,000 MW h/yr
187. Central African Republic - 148,800 MW h/yr
188. St. Vincent & the Grenadines - 122,700 MW h/yr
189. St. Kitts & Nevis - 120,900 MW h/yr
190. Antigua & Barbuda - 107,000 MW h/yr
191. Western Samoa - 98,580 MW h/yr
192. Chad - 93,000 MW h/yr
193. Equatorial Guinea - 85,560 MW h/yr
194. Western Sahara - 83,700 MW h/yr
195. Dominica - 80,910 MW h/yr
196. Solomon Islands - 72,540 MW h/yr
197. East Timor - 67,590 MW h/yr
198. Guinea-Bissau - 65,100 MW h/yr
199. Sierra Leone - 53,940 MW h/yr
200. St. Pierre & Miquelon - 49,290 MW h/yr
201. Comoros - 48,360 MW h/yr
202. British Virgin Islands - 41,850 MW h/yr
203. Vanuatu - 39,990 MW h/yr
204. Sao Tome & Principe - 38,130 MW h/yr
205. Tonga - 37,200 MW h/yr
206. Nauru - 29,800 MW h/yr
207. Cook Islands - 29,760 MW h/yr
208. Kiribati - 20,500 MW h/yr
209. Montserrat - 20,460 MW h/yr
210. Falkand Islands - 15,810 MW h/yr
211. St. Helena - 7,440 MW y/r
212. Niue - 2,790 MW y/r

[Celebriton]

Originally Posted by null

Figures dont lie...

Wow! I did know China already surpassed US on electricity consumption.....a lot. I read some article said, actual China economy is already surpassed US by seeing indicator like energy consumption, export import, etc. But a big differences like this is surprising.

For India vs China part.....

1. China.........4,693,000 MW h/yr
3. India......905,974,000 MW h/yr

905.9 vs 4.6? The number is not wrong, right?

[Celebriton]

Originally Posted by VECTROTALENZIS

The whole metropolitan area of Chengdu is actually larger than Chongqing. Chengdu is also more spread out with more suburbs and surrounding small-towns while Chongqing is more compact with almost no suburbs and satellite cities. Chongqing is a bit alone there due to the fact Chongqing has really never been a large and important city in that region. It has only started to grow large and important after it became an own municipality in 1997. Before it was overshadowed by Chengdu.

I read an expat blog in Chengdu. He visited CQ too. He said Chengdu is more developed than CQ and have better fun places to visit.

I'm quite surprising with his opinion, contradiction with CQ vs Chengdu photos here. CQ look like a mega city here.

[null]

Originally Posted by Celebriton

Wow! I did know China already surpassed US on electricity consumption.....a lot. I read some article said, actual China economy is already surpassed US by seeing indicator like energy consumption, export import, etc. But a big differences like this is surprising.

For India vs China part.....

1. China.........4,693,000 MW h/yr
3. India......905,974,000 MW h/yr

905.9 vs 4.6? The number is not wrong, right?

of course it's a wrong number by Kolony, both the USA and China either have three zeros missing, or should read as GWh/yr.

So, it should be 4,693 vs 905.9.

Link fixed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ty_consumption

China is more than 5 times larger than India by electricity consumption.

[VECTROTALENZIS]

Chengdu is also going to start to look like a megacity soon, it just needs more taller buildings.

[big-dog]

I'd rather Chengdu to be more flatten out than going vertical, taking into consideration of the seismal fault line and eco-friendliness.

[VECTROTALENZIS]

Chengdu is similar to that of a european city - dense but with few skyscrapers.

[andyvia]

Originally Posted by VECTROTALENZIS

Chengdu is similar to that of a european city - dense but with few skyscrapers.

Have you been there? I've been to Chengdu and I saw lots of skyscrapers over there. I think its level of development is not so bad as I imagined given its an inland city of a poor western province (contrary to Chongqing which is richer than national average). But this city is very polluted and is probably the most polluted big city in China. Big Dog's data posted here on SSC also confirms that. I don't think to grow bigger is a good strategy for Chengdu as it's already so polluted. People simply don't want it get worse.

[andyvia]

Originally Posted by Celebriton

I read an expat blog in Chengdu. He visited CQ too. He said Chengdu is more developed than CQ and have better fun places to visit.

To have fun places doesn't make it more developed. Chongqing metropolitan area (5400 km2) has higher gdp per capita ($9100)than Chengdu metropolitan area(3500 km2 and $8900). The average annual salary of the vast area of Chongqing one-hour economic circle (30000 km2) is 41445 yuan which is already on par with Chengdu's 41838 yuan with an area of only 12400 km2. Very clear conclusion.

CQ look like a mega city here.

The metropolitan area of Chengdu has more population than Chongqing metro and that's why Chengdu is brighter on the map. But what you guys ignored is that the area around Chongqing has much more population than that around Chengdu and it's basically nothing further west of Chengdu. Thus the influence area of Chongqing is probably still bigger and has more population than that of Chengdu. In other words the super developed Yuzhong peninsula is serving the whole region rather than just Chongqing metropolitan area and thus a more mega city feel despite fewer metropolitan population. Simply like Singapore vs Kuala Lumpur (brighter on the map but without mega city feel).

[deekshith]

Originally Posted by maldini

Match with Indian who have no electricity? Are you kidding?
China is way more urbanized than India. China has way more skyscrapers whose lighting are stacked up vertically rather than horizontally across the landscape.

What are those yellow dots then ? ...... Candle lights ?

Originally Posted by Celebriton

China still need a decade of development to match with India. A lot of rural area of China still in the dark, that is why Chinese people dislike CCP.

The most important unwritten rule in SSC is "one should not praise India against any other country"

[VECTROTALENZIS]

Originally Posted by andyvia

Simply like Singapore vs Kuala Lumpur (brighter on the map but without mega city feel).

Does Singapore have a megacity feel?
I have not been there since I was like six so I dont know.

[teddybear]

Singapore is not huge.

[big-dog]

Originally Posted by deekshith

What are those yellow dots then ? ...... Candle lights ?

Of course you are right. The worldwide electricity figures are already listed above.

Originally Posted by deekshith

The most important unwritten rule in SSC is "one should not praise India against any other country"

Feel bad if you think this way. People have similar comments against China here and there in SSC. But the statement of China lagging a decade behind India is not true in general, rural or urban, is it?

[Celebriton]

There was a huge rain yesterday in my town and no electricity as usual. I wonder, Is there any electricity engineer here? Why everytime a huge rain happen, the electricity will down?

I wonder if electricity down is still a problem in China? Especially in rural area?

[Traceparts]

Originally Posted by Celebriton

There was a huge rain yesterday in my town and no electricity as usual. I wonder, Is there any electricity engineer here? Why everytime a huge rain happen, the electricity will down?

I wonder if electricity down is still a problem in China? Especially in rural area?

blackout in China rural area is extremly rare nowdays, because nearly all electricity ficilities are brand new thanks to state grid upgrade the grid.