2022 Winter Olympics Games Bids

[likasz]

Kraków-Zakopane-Poprad-Jasna are simply the best bid.

[Lord David]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

What should be the maximum number of sports in the Winter Olympic Games if more events were added to the programme in the future?

Bandy would most likely be the sport added in the future. It offers another ice based sport and can easily serve a temporary ice field within a minor or major rectangular stadium. It could also be the site where ceremonies are held.

[blacktrojan3921]

My choices for 2022 Winter Olympics -for those that haven't decided to decline the chance to bid- is:

Kiev, Ukraine
Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina
Munich, Germany
Barcelona, Spain

[Knitemplar]

I think the Davos or St. Mortiz bid would be the strongest.

[Lord David]

Actually, if Munich were to bid again and refine their bid, they would be the strongest.

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by Lord David

Actually, if Munich were to bid again and refine their bid, they would be the strongest.

Except Thomas Bach does not WANT them blocking his IOC presidency aspirations. And maybe he is hoping it could be a Berlin 2024 rather than a Munich 2022 -- so it looks like a Munich 2022 is NOT going to happen

[Lord David]

Then why did they bid for 2018?

Why would they not use such a great opportunity to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Summer Games coming to Munich?

I'd expect a bid from them, especially if the potential competition is low.

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by Lord David

Then why did they bid for 2018?

Because Bach has not openly declared his candidacy for the IOC presidency, and if Munich 2022 is a known and open candidacy before September 2013, then Germany will get ONLY one - either Winter 2022 two years hence or the IOC presidency-- NOT both. And apparently, the powerful man behind the German NOC wants the former rather than the latter.

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[alesmarv]

Should be Santiago. Many of the best athletes train there in the summers anyways and there should be no issue with sponsorship's as the location and event scenario provides ample marketing leverage to get viewers on board. The olympics are about growing the sport and touching as many corners of the world as possible, there is no logical reason to not give the games to a southern country, especially on a continent that presents some of the highest growth prospects in winter sports, anywhere, and a continent that the ioc has been trying to make inroads in to.

IMO its Santiago's to lose so long as they put together a good and professional bid. If they dont put together a good enough bid for 2022 then 2026 should be their's. There is no other city in the southern hemisphere as capable of hosting the games as Santiago is, and of course none in South America.

This is a city of 7 million with world class ski resorts within 40 km's of the urban center. The city is is wealthy, connected and is serviced with modern transportation infrastructure...Its really a hidden gem and I think most people fail to realize what sort of city Santiago is, and what sort of country Chile is, and how that part of SA is...

[GEwinnen]

Originally Posted by Lord David

Then why did they bid for 2018?

Why would they not use such a great opportunity to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Summer Games coming to Munich?

I'd expect a bid from them, especially if the potential competition is low.

A celebration of the 50th anniversary of the 1972 games could bring back bad memoriers.

[Lord David]

Perhaps, but it will show that Munich is resolute, strong and ever more committed to the Olympic ideals.

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by Lord David

Perhaps, but it will show that Munich is resolute, strong and ever more committed to the Olympic ideals.

Resolute about what? And so what? A dozen other cities can do the same.

U're just more in love with the idea of a Munich winter Games than reality itself. Again, u're projecting your desires over the reality on the ground or what the German NOC really wants--which is beyond your control anyway.

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by alesmarv

Should be Santiago. Many of the best athletes train there in the summers anyways and there should be no issue with sponsorship's as the location and event scenario provides ample marketing leverage to get viewers on board. The olympics are about growing the sport and touching as many corners of the world as possible, there is no logical reason to not give the games to a southern country, especially on a continent that presents some of the highest growth prospects in winter sports, anywhere, and a continent that the ioc has been trying to make inroads in to.

IMO its Santiago's to lose so long as they put together a good and professional bid. If they dont put together a good enough bid for 2022 then 2026 should be their's. There is no other city in the southern hemisphere as capable of hosting the games as Santiago is, and of course none in South America.

This is a city of 7 million with world class ski resorts within 40 km's of the urban center. The city is is wealthy, connected and is serviced with modern transportation infrastructure...Its really a hidden gem and I think most people fail to realize what sort of city Santiago is, and what sort of country Chile is, and how that part of SA is...

A Santiago/southern hemisphere WOGs ain't happening. It'll totally screw up the whole calendar of winter sports and winter product sponsors whose marketing programs are geared to the northern winters and these are the guys who ultimately pay for the Games. So unless the polar ice caps melt and reverse, a southern hemisphere WOGs ain't in the cards.

[aquablue]

The US won't bid, I think they want the SOG.

[George_D]

Originally Posted by aquablue

The US won't bid, I think they want the SOG.

they say they will decide between 2024 SOG and 2026 WOG

[blacktrojan3921]

Originally Posted by Knitemplar

A Santiago/southern hemisphere WOGs ain't happening. It'll totally screw up the whole calendar of winter sports and winter product sponsors whose marketing programs are geared to the northern winters and these are the guys who ultimately pay for the Games. So unless the polar ice caps melt and reverse, a southern hemisphere WOGs ain't in the cards.

Not necessarily, I think the Committee would love to have the WOG's in the southern hemisphere. I think the big issues are that most of the countries in the Southern Hemisphere don't have the money to host the games, and there's also the fact that Africa doesn't even have much infrastructure to host such games because there's only a few ski resorts in the entire continent compared to South America and Oceania.

We also have to keep in mind that as of right now, only Australia is able to host any Olympic games, and there's a good chance they are not in the mood to host any games now that they are focused on the 2019 Commonwealth Games in Gold Coast.

[Lord David]

You mean 2018 Commonwealth Games for the Gold Coast.

Unfortunately, based on economics and actual Winter Olympics history/Winter sporting tradition and actual medal count, Australia seems only viable for a Winter Games and that won't be even a slight bid until years down the track (perhaps after a failed Summer Games bid from Brisbane or Melbourne).

That being said, we lack the necessary height for major events like Women's and Men's Downhill.

However, given adequate investment, one could potentially modify the mountain slopes at Perisher Valley for example, to either increase their height to well above 800m, or dig below to provide the necessary vertical(s) drop(s).

As a result, you will have nearby Capital City of Canberra as host, with dedicated rail and road upgrades (or just road) linking it with Perisher Valley.

Canberra will host ice events, whilst the Perisher Valley would host snow events.

Potential venues are:

Canberra:
- A new Canberra Stadium serving ceremonies (40,000+)
- AIS Arena - 5,000 (Curling - Existing)
- New AIS Arena - 6,000-8,000 (Ice Hockey II - Permanent)
- Speed Skating Oval - 4,000 (Speed Skating - Permanent)

- Canberra Arena - (14,000 Ice Hockey - Permanent)
- Secondary Arena (12,000 Figure Skating/Short Track Speed Skating - Temporary)

Athletes' Village for a potential 6,000 (a secondary village will be built at Perisher Valley if needed)
Media Village for up to 10,000
Main Media Centre - New convention/exhibition centre, with a minimum of 50,000sqm of space.

Perisher Valley:
- Alpine Skiing at upgraded ski resorts/slopes
- Freestyle Skiing
- Snowboard events
- Ski Jumping (at Ski Jumping hills)
- Biathlon/Cross Country Skiing
- Sliding Centre (Bobsleigh, Luge, Skeleton)

Secondary Athletes' Village (if needed)
Media Sub Centre - a potential convention centre of at least 10,000sqm of space.

These new facilities/venues will serve as a new Olympic/Australian Institute of Sport training centre and will have a lasting assured legacy well after the games.

Alas, if we had the mountains, we could bid, but now it's just a pipe dream (even if one considers advances in mountain "making" technology)

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921

Not necessarily, I think the Committee would love to have the WOG's in the southern hemisphere. I think the big issues are that most of the countries in the Southern Hemisphere don't have the money to host the games, and there's also the fact that Africa doesn't even
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Do you think the Games pay for themselves?

The IOC cannot survive without NBC. NBC will NOT continue paying those billions for the broadcasts WITHOUT sponsors who will share the bill and give some return to NBC's stockholders. Do you think Duraflame, Rossignol, Tylenol, scarves-&-gloves will buy, etc., buy Olympic airtime in September for products that normally sell in the northern February-March? Think again.

And the federations too get their funding from northern winter-related companies. They would NOT survive either without such sources.

[RobH]

BREAKING: No Olympic Winter Games in Switzerland in 2022. Voters of the canton of Grisons say no to the candidacy of Davos St Moritz.

[Gatsby]

Monday, March 04, 2013

Swiss exit good for possible Munich 2022 Games bid - DOSB

BERLIN (Reuters) - Munich's chances of landing the 2022 winter Olympics should the Bavarian capital bid again have improved by the rejection of a Swiss bid, the German's Olympic Committee (DOSB) said on Monday.

Munich was squarely beaten by South Korea's Pyeongchang for the 2018 winter Olympics and has yet to decide whether to run again.

But with Russia's Sochi hosting the 2014 winter Games, Munich could have a good shot at bringing the Games back to central Europe.

A planned Swiss candidacy of Davos and St Moritz was rejected by local citizens in a referendum on Sunday. There has been no official bid from any country. Poland and Ukraine are eyeing a joint bid.

"The competition for the winter Games 2022 has eased considerably (with the Swiss exit)," said DOSB General Director Michael Vesper in reaction to the referendum in the canton of Graubuenden.

"This will be positively considered by the DOSB when taking a decision. This decision shows how important the involvement of citizens is."

Munich's bid for 2018 was hampered by local opposition in Garmisch-Partenkirchen where the skiing events would be held. The Green party also officially opposed Munich's 2018 bid over environmental concerns, dealing it a major political blow.

"That is why the DOSB has made this (citizens' involvement) a condition for any potential new bid."

Vesper said a final decision would be taken after general elections in Germany in September and an International Olympic Committee vote for the 2020 summer Games host city in the same month.

"If there is a decision after that for Munich to bid again then there will be a referendum on November 10," he said.

(Reporting by Karolos Grohmann, editing by Justin Palmer)

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...osb&sec=sports

Munich Bid Competition "Eased"; Very Strong Support for Tokyo
3/4/2013

Munich Weighing Impact of Swiss Decision

The German Olympic committee (DOSB) suggested that the rejection of a Swiss bid for the 2022 Olympics may enhance Munich’s chances of staging the Games.

Voters in the canton of Graubünden rejected the St. Moritz/Davos bid for the 2022 Winter Olympics in a referendum Sunday.

"The competition for the winter Games 2022 has eased considerably,” DOSB general director Michael Vesper was quoted by Reuters.

"This will be positively considered by the DOSB when taking a decision. This decision shows how important the involvement of citizens is."

Munich lost to PyeongChang in the race for the 2018 Winter Games.

The DOSB has been reluctant to rush into any decision on a repeat bid from the Bavarian city.

IOC vice president Thomas Bach told Around the Rings last month: “We are waiting for the decision on 2020 and elections [federal and state] in September.

“We are happy to note that there is a great support for an Olympic Games in Germany.”

Bids from Ukraine and Poland/Slovakia are being finalized, while voters in Oslo will approve a bid later this year. Other cities are expected to announce their candidacies shortly.

83% Support for Tokyo

A new poll commissioned by the Tokyo newspaper the Yomiuri Shimbun finds 83 percent of Japanese citizens support the city’s 2020 Olympic bid. Just 12 percent are opposed.

The numbers are up from 71 percent in January of 2012. The paper also reports that the numbers represent the highest level of support for the bid, dating back to Tokyo’s failed efforts to host the 2016 Games.

“Tokyo's Olympic promotion campaigns appear to have significantly affected people's attitude toward hosting the Games,” the report said.

Istanbul and Madrid are the other 2020 bid cities.

Vienna Bid Polling

Ahead of the March 7-9 referendum on the 2028 Olympics, residents of Vienna are split on the bid.

Makam Research polled 500 citizens on the Games and found 44 percent in favour of a bid 36 percent opposed and the rest have no opinion.

According to the findings, young people are the most supportive of the bid.

The poll also found 78 percent of responders feel that the Olympics would boost Austria’s image, 66 percent think the Games would help the Austrian economy, and 13 percent believe an Austrian Olympics would be the best ever.

Mayor Michael Häupl took time to promote the bid, saying it would energize youth participation in sports.

The opposition party has reportedly continued its critiques of a bid, noting initial figures to start a bid are estimated at $130 million.

Written by Ed Hula III.

http://www.aroundtherings.com/articl....aspx?id=42494