Bangalore Ring Roads thread

[DigitalOne]

PRR news after a very very long time. Project was supposed to start in 2007 itself but never took off. Hopefully, with this new land swap formula, things will progress. IMHO, this and Metro rail are the most critical projects for Bangalore.

Metro rail will take care of the commuting inside the city core areas whereas this will decongest the peripheral areas and also provide access to the airport.

Originally Posted by gentem

ANOTHER MEGA PROJECT INTO THE FUTURE
Peripheral Ring Road gets cabinet approval
1,028-Crore Project Will Decongest Traffic, Spruce Up Bangalore Northeast
Anil Kumar M | TNN

[RRaju]

Originally Posted by gentem

ANOTHER MEGA PROJECT INTO THE FUTURE
Peripheral Ring Road gets cabinet approval
1,028-Crore Project Will Decongest Traffic, Spruce Up Bangalore Northeast
Anil Kumar M | TNN

Interestingly, considering the experience of Bangalore Mysore Infrastructure Corridor (BMIC) project, the cabinet warned BDA that it should not get into acquiring land for project concessionaries so as to bridge the viability gap. It was told to rather explore other avenues of resource mobilization. The BDA was also given the freedom to approach Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) for financial assistance or execute the project through public private participation (PPP) or through town planning schemes.

THE COST

• Rs 10 cr per km, for 65 km — Rs 650 cr

• 10 grade separators at Rs 40 cr each — Rs 400 cr

• 5 road overbridges/ underbridges at Rs 20 cr each — Rs 100 cr

• 29 pedestrian underpass at Rs 2 cr each —Rs 58 cr

• Total cost comes to Rs 1,028 cr

Though it's Good Planning this time with Grade Seaparators, ROB,RUB ... etc.
PRR - Phase I should set a new bench mark , which was earlier set by Hyderabad ORR.

will it be executed by BDA alone, or else any Tenders would be called for private parties to execute the project Like L&T, NCC, Gammon , Jaypee ......

Hoping BDA or any other Party will use this opportunity to set a new Bench Mark.

[rsrikanth05]

They might try something like Chennai ORR.
BOT Annuity?

[rocking_magma]

Looks like BDA has learnt nothing from the past!! again only grade separators and no interchanges! So there will be signal at grade for other roads. They need to change their attitude toward work.

[Bubba_305]

Originally Posted by rocking_magma

Looks like BDA has learnt nothing from the past!! again only grade separators and no interchanges! So there will be signal at grade for other roads. They need to change their attitude toward work.

Was just looking at the pic below. Really can't make much of it but looks like a proper 4 looped clover interchange at DB Pura Rd, Bellary Rd, Hennur Rd, OMR and Anekal Rd. I hope they do it that way. They also MUST have a proper 4 loop clover interchange at Tumkur Rd and Hosur Rd.

[MysoreOne]

image hosted on flickr

Above Outer Ring Road by Scalino, on Flickr

[Cygnus-X1]

Lovely shot from atop rail tracks - this is near Karthik nagar, north of Marathalli bridge.

[explorer09]

Originally Posted by Bubba_305

I was hoping the underpass would be extended to go under the east branch of Subramanyapura Main Rd as well... But... What to do... I guess the city wanted some more of these extremely confusing, hard to manage junctions to increase employment in the corrupt cops sector of the economy. Many examples like this you know... Bommanahalli signal for one tops my list of "Oh, so awesome that I wanna drive there all the time" junctions.

Yes, I agree. Bommanahalli is another classic case. Infact, I dont really see the point of the entire elevated road there. The objective was to have a signal-free access road from Silk Board to E-City and I wonder why didnt anyone think about building 4 flyovers ( thats all there is to it, right? ) which would have helped everyone.

[pareshraheja]

Originally Posted by DigitalOne

PRR news after a very very long time. Project was supposed to start in 2007 itself but never took off. Hopefully, with this new land swap formula, things will progress. IMHO, this and Metro rail are the most critical projects for Bangalore.

Guys, any idea whether the stretch b/w Tumkur Road and Bellary road will pass through the IVC road or will it be anywhere close to it?

[DigitalOne]

Yet another Government order/approval for the PRR. If you put the number of government order/approval news items, it will cover the entire 62 kms proposed PRR stretch.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...ovt-okays.html
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The State government has finally issued the an order to execute the long-pending project of constructing the 65- kilometer Peripheral Ring Road (PRR) on the outskirts of Bangalore. However, no time frame has been set for its completion, despite being delayed by nearly eight years.

The Government Order has made a few changes, including, truncating of the width of the PRR stretch from 100 meter to 75 meter.

According to sources, the 25 meter-stretch, which has been left out from the construction of the PRR, will be utilised for hi-tech zoning.

“We are going to have the option of making this hi-tech zoning, instead of a separate two- kilometer stretch which was envisaged earlier,” an official said.

Currently, as per Comprehensive Development Plan 2015, the floor area ratio in hi-tech zones is two times to 3.25 times the extent of the land on roads that are 12 metre to 30 metre wide.

Confirming the issue of the GO, T Sham Bhatt, Commissioner, Bangalore Development Authority told Deccan Herald: “We are now working out the modalities of compensating farmers and other land losers,” he said.

The meeting between the BDA top brass and the State government held 15 days ago came out with three options to compensate the farmers.

“The first option is to give them developed land, on either side of the PRR, in the ratio of 60:40 as decided under the Town Planning module. This would mean that for every acre of land, the farmer will get 9,583 sq ft of developed land. The other option would be to give them cash compensation. However, we are yet to arrive at a possible number for giving the compensation,” Bhatt said.

The deputy commissioner for the respective regions will decide upon the compensation amount, he added.

The third option which the BDA is contemplating is issuing transfer of development rights (TDR) in respect of properties acquired.

Meanwhile, the BDA will reissue pre-tender qualification notification for the project as the nine bidders who qualified for the project earlier cannot be considered on account of procedural delays.

Sources state that the request for qualification of the nine bidders has become null and void as it is over three months since it was accepted by the BDA.

The BDA commissioner however stated that it will be up to the State government on who will develop this particular stretch, as the project will be cleared at the Cabinet level due to high cost involved.

[JhonJ]

Compensation at market rates demanded for PRR land

The Karnataka Rajya Raita Sangha and the Hasiru Sene have demanded compensation at market rates for farmers losing land for the proposed 65-km peripheral ring road (PRR) phase 1.

Sangha and sene president Kodihalli Chandrashekhar told presspersons in Bangalore on Friday the government’s decision to offer 40 per cent of the developed land or its market price is nothing but chicanery.

He said: “The PRR is a toll road and land acquired for its formation would not be utilised for any other public utility purpose such as parks and so on. The acquisition is for commercial purposes and hence the farmers are entitled to market price for all the land.”

The Bangalore Development Authority (BDA) has proposed to sell house sites at Kempegowda Layout at Rs. 1,800 per sq ft. The same rate should apply to calculate compensation to farmers, and for each acre (43,560 sq ft) the payment should be Rs. 7.84 crore an acre, he said.

Road width reduced

Mr. Chandrashekhar accused the government of intentionally reducing the width of the proposed PRR from 100 m to 70 m to deny money payable to farmers. Now this remaining 30-m strip of acquired land was proposed to be given to farmers as compensation, and this was nothing but free of cost acquisition for the government.

Stating that farmers were not against development, Mr. Chandrashekhar said the point was not to cheat them and demanded immediate intervention of the Chief Minister in this regard.

source:http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...cle4468659.ece

[rsrikanth05]

Can't the BDA/BBMP widen the old NH 209 from Devanahalli-Hosakote-Sarjapur instead of a PRR?

[naveen_blr]

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Can't the BDA/BBMP widen the old NH 209 from Devanahalli-Hosakote-Sarjapur instead of a PRR?

its owned by NHAI , even if he see this post they might start collecting toll from tomorrow saying they would widen it a decade later.

[DigitalOne]

Originally Posted by naveen_blr

its owned by NHAI , even if he see this post they might start collecting toll from tomorrow saying they would widen it a decade later.

NH209 widening is already on the cards, I think. But I would any day take the NHAI promises than BDA promises.

In the last 5-6 years, NHAI has done more for Blr infrastructure than BDA ( Hosur road, Tumkur road, and Bellary road ). BDA has been struggling to finish a few flyovers on ORR.

[rsrikanth05]

Originally Posted by naveen_blr

its owned by NHAI , even if he see this post they might start collecting toll from tomorrow saying they would widen it a decade later.

Erm, except Bellary Road, the NHAI has completed all projects and is giving reasonable value for money for good roads on Hosur Road, Old Madras Road and Tumkur Road.

[naveen_blr]

Originally Posted by DigitalOne

NH209 widening is already on the cards, I think. But I would any day take the NHAI promises than BDA promises.

In the last 5-6 years, NHAI has done more for Blr infrastructure than BDA ( Hosur road, Tumkur road, and Bellary road ). BDA has been struggling to finish a few flyovers on ORR.

This was done a decade ago in other metros , Hosur Road & Tumkur Road have come up just couple of years ago.
Hosur Road is not properly planned though with just 2 lanes & a straight stretch creating chaos below.

What about Kanakapura Road NH ?
Hoskote NH 4 ?
Mysore Road qualified to be a NH but the state had to spend money to make it world class.
Bellary road had to be done by 2008 & its 5 years after the airport opened that the road work is still on.

[rsrikanth05]

Originally Posted by naveen_blr

This was done a decade ago in other metros , Hosur Road & Tumkur Road have come up just couple of years ago.
Hosur Road is not properly planned though with just 2 lanes & a straight stretch creating chaos below.

What about Kanakapura Road NH ?
Hoskote NH 4 ?
Mysore Road qualified to be a NH but the state had to spend money to make it world class.
Bellary road had to be done by 2008 & its 5 years after the airport opened that the road work is still on.

Kanakapura Road: NHAI had announced six laning and had invited bids.
Mysore Road: Already world class thanks to KRDCL.
Hosakote: Six lane from TC Palya and 4 lane till Mulbagal.

Bellary Road was six laned under EPC by NHAI from Hebbal to Devanahalli+Devanahalli bypass back in 2008. The expressway came up later.
What about the state? The same HSR on the same corridor didn't even take off.
Anyway, let's not fight over this.
I know that in Maharashtra, MSRDC does NH stretches under BOT, why not the same in KA?
And where is Hosur Road 2 lanes? It is 2+2+6+2+2 lanes wide from CBS to Electronics City.

[DigitalOne]

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Kanakapura Road: NHAI had announced six laning and had invited bids.
Mysore Road: Already world class thanks to KRDCL.
Hosakote: Six lane from TC Palya and 4 lane till Mulbagal.

Bellary Road was six laned under EPC by NHAI from Hebbal to Devanahalli+Devanahalli bypass back in 2008. The expressway came up later.
What about the state? The same HSR on the same corridor didn't even take off.
Anyway, let's not fight over this.
I know that in Maharashtra, MSRDC does NH stretches under BOT, why not the same in KA?
And where is Hosur Road 2 lanes? It is 2+2+6+2+2 lanes wide from CBS to Electronics City.

@naveen_blr,
Over and above all this, did you know that BDA washed its hands-off PRR in 2008 and tried to push it to NHAI? It came back to BDA only after NHAI rejected to implement it.

http://www.business-standard.com/art...0301025_1.html

http://bangalorebuzz.blogspot.in/200...da-claims.html

[raghumr72@gmail.com]

IT'S HARD TO BELIEV WE HAVE TO GIVE TOLL TO ONE OF THE WORST STRECHES OF BANGALORE LEADING TO BIA.
SOME BODY ( PREFERABLY A LAWYER ) SHOULD FILE A PIL AGAINST TOLL COLLECTION SOON.

PLS HELP.

[rmvdweller]

Agree with rsrikanth and others about NHAI. In order of project execution speed/efficiency in Bangalore, it would be NHAI>BDA>BBMP.

No one can beat the BBMP when it comes to shoddy and terrible execution. BBMP needs to be abolished. They can't do a thing right.