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Old November 13th, 2012, 11:14 PM   #21
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FWIW, a planning application has gone in requesting permission to demolish the former Total Fitness unit adjacent to the cinema on Binns Road.
Why does it need a planning application? Is it a listed building?
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Old November 13th, 2012, 11:33 PM   #22
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Maybe because of the party wall with the cinema?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:13 AM   #23
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Why does it need a planning application? Is it a listed building?
Nope, it was built in the late 90's, and is just the same construction as the rest of the retail park.

To be honest with you, given the cinema is due to be demolished as well as in due course, I don't know why they don't just wait and knock them both down together. It would certainly avoid difficulties arising from demolishing close to an active site and a party wall.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 04:21 PM   #24
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Don't think they share a party wall. Went past today and it looks like there's about a foot between the two individual structures
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Old November 14th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #25
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Did you no that the hospital on the skellys site has been scrapped. Looks like we will be stuck with the grot spot a while longer
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Old November 14th, 2012, 06:03 PM   #26
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But the funding was totally confirmed! Great....
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Old November 14th, 2012, 07:03 PM   #27
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The problem was derwent did not swap land with merseycare . Merseycare are looking to build in Fairfield on the old police site .i hope the rest of the work goes ahead . We will see
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Old December 10th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #28
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The following was approved with conditions last Thursday.

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Application Number - 12F/2662
Site Address - Land to the south of Edge Lane - bounded by Edge Lane to the north, Milton Road to the west, Crawford Way and Pighue Lane to the south, and Binns Road and Rathbone Road to the east, Liverpool, L13
Proposal - To vary conditions 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 12, 13, 14, 22, 27, 28, 32 and 35 attached to 10F/2235 so as to allow commencement of an initial phase of development adjacent to Binns Road
Applicant - Derwent Holdings Ltd.
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These variations of conditions are sought in order to allow development to commence on an initial phase, hereby referred to as Phase 0, in the short term by amending conditions so that details that are not relevant to the development of Phase 0 are not required to be submitted prior to commencing works on Phase 0. This will allow the applicant to bring forward the regeneration of this site, securing early investment and helping to deliver economic benefits for the area.
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Phase 0 will consist of the area outlined in green, to the other side of the railway line. The area outlined in red will be known as Phase 1, and will come later. For reference, Edge Lane runs top to the bottom towards the left of the image, while the traffic roundabout visible right of centre is the existing roundabout outside the cinema. Ignore the red outline to the bottom right, that merely shows the lower level of parking on the uncropped image.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 10:13 PM   #29
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^

So if I'm reading that correctly it's the area where the half finished skeleton of a building is now? Sooner they get going with this the better, the whole of Edge Lane from the former Ian Skelly site right down to the Littlewoods building is a shambles. It gives a terrible impression of the city.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 11:09 PM   #30
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So if I'm reading that correctly it's the area where the half finished skeleton of a building is now?
Yep, that's right.

Even though it's only a small section, just seeing anything happen on-site here will be a big step forward.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 02:15 AM   #31
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Looks like Binns Road is to be removed and another built if I'm reading that map correctly.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #32
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I don't suppose we have any renders of what to expect do we?
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Old December 11th, 2012, 08:35 PM   #33
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The following was approved with conditions last Thursday.

From the Planning Explorer -



Details from the Related Documents -



Here's a map, also taken from the Related Documents -


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Phase 0 will consist of the area outlined in green, to the other side of the railway line. The area outlined in red will be known as Phase 1, and will come later. For reference, Edge Lane runs top to the bottom towards the left of the image, while the traffic roundabout visible right of centre is the existing roundabout outside the cinema. Ignore the red outline to the bottom right, that merely shows the lower level of parking on the uncropped image.
Looking at that map - the retail park as it stands where comet and currys are now will just be part of the new development for now. To tell the truth, I would not be sad if it stayed like that and Rathbone park was just redeveloped as a park. They could just develop the old factory/units where they made mugs and sold paint to act as a threshold on Edge lane. maybe even facing something onto a new Rathbone park?

Interested to see the new bridge(?) across the railway behind where I'd imagine dreams and JJb used to be.

Be really good to get those first new frontages onto Edge lane aswell.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #34
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I don't suppose we have any renders of what to expect do we?
A large poster went up on the site last week advertising for tenants, it looks to have renderings on it. So they must exist somewhere other than the poster.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #35
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Plans to build mental health centre in Liverpool’s Edge Lane shelved

A MULTI-MILLION pound plan to build a mental health centre on a main route into Liverpool was scrapped after attempts to buy land needed for the project failed.

The ECHO understands Isle of Man-based Derwent Holdings refused to sell the eyesore former Ian Skelly garage site in Edge Lane to Merseycare.

After many months of wrangling, the NHS trust decided to look elsewhere and is now in the process of buying the former police training centre in Prescot Road, Old Swan, which it will knock down to make way for its new mental health facility.

The breakdown in negotiations with Derwent Holdings will put the project back around nine months.

Sources at Merseycare said they were “bitterly disappointed” but the new site had some advantages which meant the project should not cost any more than originally predicted.
Article continues here - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-32378707/

Disappointing news, but at least it looks like the mental health facility will still go ahead elsewhere, even if a little behind schedule. As for the former Skelly's site, with the relationship between Derwent and the council being about as good as it's ever been, could someone at the council please ask Derwent to flatten the Skelly's site (and the former Carpet World too), rather than leave them to deteriorate even further while they figure out what to do with the site? A vacant site isn't great, but at least it'd look tidier than what is there now.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 12:00 AM   #36
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They are on page one of this thread by the looks of the plan. Nothing on it looks like it is different from those renders.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 03:53 PM   #37
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Dont hold your breath...Skellys has been derelict for 20 years. Derwent have no track record for delivering any development in this city. Remember when they took legal action to stop the council putting boards up round some of the derelict sites they own. They have knocked back the mental health clinic but don't appear to have any alternative plans for the site. Even in the boom retail years they invested nothing in the area ...am I the only one who avoids edge lane if I am bringing a visiter into the city it is a disgrace and would not be tolerated by any other city with serious ambitions. Time for Uncle Joe to get tough and look toward CPOs.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 04:08 PM   #38
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They're not hanging about for once, they were on site this morning and look to have made a bit of progress already. I see GVA are handling the marketing for it so I tried to find a bit more detail but after 10 minutes reading their corporate twaddle and trying to navigate their shittily designed site I just feel like punching myself in the face.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:47 PM   #39
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Edge Lane has been improved quite a bit in the last 12 months, and still more since this was published

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-30935629/
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Edge Lane has been improved quite a bit in the last 12 months, and still more since this was published

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-30935629/
That stretch of Edge Lane was completed thanks to the city council, NO thanks to Derwent!
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