CHINA | High Speed Rail

[chornedsnorkack]

Originally Posted by hmmwv

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2. Xi'an-Baoji section, construction started on Feb 28, 2012, scheduled to finish in late 2013 and trial runs start early 2014. Design speed 350km/h.

Is it on schedule for completion within 2013?

[big-dog]

Originally Posted by big-dog

12.1 Harbin-Dalian HSR starts operation officially
(xinhuanet)

In ten days of Harbin-Dalian HSR opening, the long distance bus fare along the line has dropped up to 30%.

source

[Silly_Walks]

Originally Posted by FM 2258

I remember people saying the same thing about high voltage power lines but I'm not sure what those studies produced.

I remember those too. I can't remember hearing what official studies have said, but I have seen figures of people living under power lines getting cancer, and they had a much higher percentage than the average.

[chornedsnorkack]

Originally Posted by big-dog

In ten days of Harbin-Dalian HSR opening, the long distance bus fare along the line has dropped up to 30%.

Have the fares of slow speed trains on the same line been affected?

[urbanfan89]

Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack

Have the fares of slow speed trains on the same line been affected?

All railway fares in China are fixed according to a mathematical formula, unlike in western countries.

[skyridgeline]

Originally Posted by big-dog

12.9 Beijing citizen protesting Beijing-Shenyang HSR bypassing their homes and questioning the environment report


Video

(sina.com)

Will something like this help?


The Zhanxi bridge highway in Beijing:

transportbox.blogspot.ca


by Tux Tuxando (panoramio.com)

[:jax:]

Originally Posted by Silly_Walks

I remember those too. I can't remember hearing what official studies have said, but I have seen figures of people living under power lines getting cancer, and they had a much higher percentage than the average.

The advice of the resident Internet MD seems fair enough. While there have been single studies with one effect or the opposite, no such effect has been demonstrated. There is not enough evidence to conclusively state that there cannot be adverse health effect either.

Back to the health and other effects of high speed rail.

[hmmwv]

Originally Posted by skyridgeline

Will something like this help?
The Zhanxi bridge highway in Beijing:

I probably will, the reason that opposition is not as strong as before is because after the first round of environmental impact study and public hearing MOR has agreed to increase the acoustic barrier to full height from half height. I'm sure if they propose a fully enclosed railway viaduct the public opposition will die down significantly. On the other hand they have to deal with a significant increase in cost as well the engineering challenge of tunnel shocks.

[chornedsnorkack]

Does anyone have a map of Beijing showing the high speed railways - Beijing-Tianjin, Beijing-Shanghai, Beijing-Shijiazhuang, Beijing-Chengde-Shenyang - and the other (existing slow) railways?

[yaohua2000]

G71 from Beijing West to Shenzhen North, 10h05m, 219 km/h
• 08:00 – 08:00 Beijing West
• 08:41 – 08:43 Baoding East
• 09:19 – 09:22 Shijiazhuang
• 10:01 – 10:03 Handan East
• 10:41 – 10:43 Xinxiang East
• 11:04 – 11:07 Zhengzhou East
• 11:53 – 11:55 Zhumadian West
• 13:06 – 13:09 Wuhan
• 13:58 – 14:00 Yueyang East
• 14:34 – 14:39 Changsha South
• 15:16 – 15:18 Hengyang East
• 15:35 – 15:37 Leiyang West
• 15:58 – 16:05 Chenzhou West
• 17:26 – 17:36 Guangzhou South
• 18:05 – 18:05 Shenzhen North

G72 from Shenzhen North to Beijing West, 10h21m, 213 km/h
• 08:00 – 08:00 Shenzhen North
• 08:29 – 08:32 Guangzhou South
• 10:07 – 10:09 Leiyang West
• 10:48 – 10:50 Zhuzhou West
• 11:07 – 11:11 Changsha South
• 11:45 – 11:57 Yueyang East
• 12:47 – 12:50 Wuhan
• 13:53 – 13:55 Zhumadian West
• 14:13 – 14:23 Luohe West
• 14:57 – 15:00 Zhengzhou East
• 15:31 – 15:33 Hebi East
• 16:00 – 16:20 Handan East
• 16:59 – 17:02 Shijiazhuang
• 17:38 – 17:40 Baoding East
• 18:21 – 18:21 Beijing West

G79 from Beijing West to Guangzhou South, 07h59m, 264 km/h
• 10:00 – 10:00 Beijing West
• 11:07 – 11:09 Shijiazhuang
• 12:30 – 12:33 Zhengzhou East
• 14:17 – 14:20 Wuhan
• 15:38 – 15:41 Changsha South
• 17:59 – 17:59 Guangzhou South

G80 from Guangzhou South to Beijing West, 07h59m, 264 km/h
• 10:00 – 10:00 Guangzhou South
• 12:17 – 12:20 Changsha South
• 13:38 – 13:41 Wuhan
• 15:26 – 15:29 Zhengzhou East
• 16:50 – 16:52 Shijiazhuang
• 17:59 – 17:59 Beijing West

[Pansori]

Good stuff there. Is this the official schedule?

Is the G79/G80 the fastest service?

[hkskyline]

8 hours is a bit of a stretch for a train ride. I'd rather fly for 3.5 hours and waste 2 hours pre-flight and an hour after. Even then, I still save quite a bit of time flying.

[Pansori]

Originally Posted by hkskyline

8 hours is a bit of a stretch for a train ride. I'd rather fly for 3.5 hours and waste 2 hours pre-flight and an hour after. Even then, I still save quite a bit of time flying.

I'd rather relax and browse internet for 8 hours than sit like a sardine in an economy class of 737/A320 with no Internet or sights behind the window.

[yaohua2000]

Originally Posted by Pansori

Good stuff there. Is this the official schedule?

Is the G79/G80 the fastest service?

Yes. And there is much more at: http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shar...7&uk=940615312 , decompress password = "1q2w3e4r.rar"

[greenlion]

Shijiazhuang Station

[greenlion]

download Beijing-Shijiazhuang-Wuhan-Guangzhou-Senzhen HSR timetable

http://bbs.railcn.net/thread-1007704-1-1.html

[hmmwv]

Originally Posted by hkskyline

8 hours is a bit of a stretch for a train ride. I'd rather fly for 3.5 hours and waste 2 hours pre-flight and an hour after. Even then, I still save quite a bit of time flying.

8 hours will be longer than flying, but probably more comfortable for people who can spare the additional two hours. I don't have to worry about potential delays, which happen quite often, or turbulence, or era poping The seats are more comfortable, you can walk to the dining car and eat or chill. You can even be a inconsiderate a** and talk on the phone really loud.

[laojang]

Originally Posted by hmmwv

8 hours will be longer than flying, but probably more comfortable for people who can spare the additional two hours. I don't have to worry about potential delays, which happen quite often, or turbulence, or era poping The seats are more comfortable, you can walk to the dining car and eat or chill. You can even be a inconsiderate a** and talk on the phone really loud.

There is no official announcement yet. Assuming 8 hours is right, then
perhaps it will be cut down further after a new RW minister takes over.
Hopefully in a several years, a maglev line is built, which will make the travel
time (around 4 hours) really competitive.

Laojang

[chornedsnorkack]

Has a schedule for Beijing-Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou-Xian also become known?

[hmmwv]

Originally Posted by laojang

There is no official announcement yet. Assuming 8 hours is right, then
perhaps it will be cut down further after a new RW minister takes over.
Hopefully in a several years, a maglev line is built, which will make the travel
time (around 4 hours) really competitive.

Laojang

With the current 350km/h lines capable of 380km/h service, once that becomes a reality (after 2015, at least), then the travel time may be cut down to less than 7 hours.