URUGUAY / ARGENTINA - FIFA World Cup 2030 bid

[prahovaploiesti]

Originally Posted by michał_

Not mentioning that where exactly would you see 10-12 stadiums of 40k+ in Canada?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_in_Canada

They have 2 60k+, 2 50k+ and 1 35k+ stadiums now.
That's 5 stadiums.
The bid is for 2026 or 2030 so there is time to build other stadiums.

[Maty Imperial]

Ojala

[Jim856796]

If Argentina hosted a FIFA World Cup, some of the stadiums may have to be reconstructed just to meet modern requirements/regulations. For the 2014 FIFA World Cup, Brazil is building/redeveloping 12 football stadiums to be all-seater, and some of them will have corporate boxes. On the other hand, a majority of Argentina's major (30,000+ capacity) football stadiums are decades old and are not all-seaters. La Plata is the most modern football stadium in Argentina, but its capacity as an all-seater is only 36,000, 4,000 short of the minimum a stadium needs to host FIFA WC matches.

If Argentina did host a FIFA World Cup in the future, which cities would have their stadiums reconstructed and which cities would need brand-new stadiums? (Minimum 8 stadiums, maximum 10; in this fantasy bid, two venues are being saved for Uruguay.)

[TEBC]

FIFA officialy received the bid today

[Naipesky]

The bids are not coming too much in advance?


2030 is not exactly a near future. I cant predict anything of the world in this time.


Anyway, i suport the 100th back to Uruguai, and why not, also Argentina.


2026 is ok for China. FIFA want hosts with lots of money and few or malleable rules.

[Laurence2011]

Originally Posted by Naipesky

The bids are not coming too much in advance?


2030 is not exactly a near future. I cant predict anything of the world in this time.


Anyway, i suport the 100th back to Uruguai, and why not, also Argentina.


2026 is ok for China. FIFA want hosts with lots of money and few or malleable rules.

According to wikipedia, China have pulled out

[RobH]

Pulled out of what? This is way to early to be putting in a bid!! Really silly,

[TEBC]

Originally Posted by Naipesky

The bids are not coming too much in advance?

2030 is not exactly a near future. I cant predict anything of the world in this time.

Anyway, i suport the 100th back to Uruguai, and why not, also Argentina.

2026 is ok for China. FIFA want hosts with lots of money and few or malleable rules.

This is a special bid backed by FIFA, i think no one will bid against them like it happened for 2014

[Laurence2011]

Originally Posted by RobH

Pulled out of what? This is way to early to be putting in a bid!! Really silly,

Withdrawn it's intention to bid, although I did see this a couple of weeks back and can't find the wiki page of it now.. it also had LOADS of other potential bidding nations of the world cup 2026, 2030 and 2034

[Laurence2011]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

Withdrawn it's intention to bid, although I did see this a couple of weeks back and can't find the wiki page of it now.. it also had LOADS of other potential bidding nations of the world cup 2026, 2030 and 2034

slightly off topic but I found the wiki page regarding WC2026, I have no idea who made it or if it can be trusted, but take a look, still makes for some interesting reading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EB...FIFA_World_Cup

[EdooGdl]

sorry, but Argentina and Uruguay doesen´t have good enough stadiums to organize a FIFA World Cup except one or two for Argenitna and no one for Uruguay. Argentina just had a huge chance to build modern stadiums or make deep renovations in the last Copa America and they didn`t do it. This is just fantasy.

[larsul]

good football countries... lack of infrastructure.. the stadiums are horrible except for La Plata and Maybe cordoba.. the rest are crap.. of course it is almost 20 years from now but i dont see how they can present a good bid.
Plus if you consider insecurity with the barras braves (they are way more dangerous than any european group) it would be high risk considering argentina games.. imagine if they loose to brasil or uruguay... they will trash everything like they did in river plate stadium after River plate went to B..
FIFA must consider a lot of elements if they choose this countries...

[vitacit]

i highly welcome ARG-URU offer to organize WC ! in october i was i brasil and went to both URU and PAR. incomparable. didn't have time to go to ARG (i just saw ARG in foz do iguacu, hahaha))))...) but i might go there next year. it's still a lot of time for both the countries improve/build stadiums, infrastructure. i hope your countries will get it ! i was also thinking about the other countries with the potential to host WC. as FIFA is placing stronger and stronger conditions, only big "animals" (and rich ones, of course...) are able to host. my list is the following - usa, mexico, brasil, argentina, sout africa, australia, japan, south korea, china, arab emirates, russia, france, italy, germany, england (or united kingdom in the wider range), spain. those countries, in my opinion, are able to host WC withou any other partner. maybe columbia, canada, venezula (depends on petrodolars and hugo's good will) too. the co-organization could be run by arg+uru, arg+chile (i know there are some problems between both the countries regarding the border in andes but i'm not sure), aus+nzl, jap+kor (it was well organized WC), esp+por, eng+sco+wal.

[CarlosBlueDragon]

2030 Uruguay and Paraguay (mean same U&P-"guay")

Argentina would wait next 4years

2034 Argentina

2050 Chile or Colombia??

[Fabri88]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

slightly off topic but I found the wiki page regarding WC2026, I have no idea who made it or if it can be trusted, but take a look, still makes for some interesting reading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EB...FIFA_World_Cup

I think that Uruguay(/Argentina) 2030 unless catastrophic natural and/or politic events occur is already the winning bid to celebrate 100 years of the FWC!

Then, previous WCs will be played in Brazil (South America, so West), Russia (Eastern Europe) and Qatar (Middle East).

Thinking about 2026 I really like the Chinese purposal. If not China then I would think to an African country to host the WC but obviously not Egypt due to the vicinity to Qatar (geographically and culturally). I would rather prefer a subsaharan country but aside of South Africa again I don't know what's the best country. Nigeria has a too high crime rate and has the Islamic terrorism plague. A tri-nations Botswana/Namibia/Angola would provide some "good" economies but aside of Angola the other nations are not football developed. Senegal is too small and too poor for a WC. Maybe Cameroon but it would be an extreme choice too.

[vitacit]

i doubt any other african country except south africa would be able to host wc, build stadiums, infrastracture, hotels.... i mean, for wc, yes, but what will happened with all those huge stadiums after the wc ? only if the stadiums would be removable and sold somewhere else. but i still doubt about it....

Originally Posted by Fabri88

I think that Uruguay(/Argentina) 2030 unless catastrophic natural and/or politic events occur is already the winning bid to celebrate 100 years of the FWC!

Then, previous WCs will be played in Brazil (South America, so West), Russia (Eastern Europe) and Qatar (Middle East).

Thinking about 2026 I really like the Chinese purposal. If not China then I would think to an African country to host the WC but obviously not Egypt due to the vicinity to Qatar (geographically and culturally). I would rather prefer a subsaharan country but aside of South Africa again I don't know what's the best country. Nigeria has a too high crime rate and has the Islamic terrorism plague. A tri-nations Botswana/Namibia/Angola would provide some "good" economies but aside of Angola the other nations are not football developed. Senegal is too small and too poor for a WC. Maybe Cameroon but it would be an extreme choice too.

[TEBC]

Originally Posted by EdooGdl

sorry, but Argentina and Uruguay doesen´t have good enough stadiums to organize a FIFA World Cup except one or two for Argenitna and no one for Uruguay. Argentina just had a huge chance to build modern stadiums or make deep renovations in the last Copa America and they didn`t do it. This is just fantasy.

Brazil didnt have any good stadiums for 2014. You dont need to have previosly to be a host, just have to build it.

[TEBC]

Originally Posted by vitacit

i doubt any other african country except south africa would be able to host wc, build stadiums, infrastracture, hotels.... i mean, for wc, yes, but what will happened with all those huge stadiums after the wc ? only if the stadiums would be removable and sold somewhere else. but i still doubt about it....

Morroco can

[Laurence2011]

Originally Posted by TEBC

Morroco can

was just about to say this, Morroco seem to really want the world cup having bidded for 1994, 1998, 2006, and 2010, I think they will be the next african nation to host.

[EdooGdl]

Originally Posted by TEBC

Brazil didnt have any good stadiums for 2014. You dont need to have previosly to be a host, just have to build it.

Yes, but Brazil is the new ritch in the block. The macro economy of Argentina and Brazil are not at the same level. I know Arentina and Uruguay would build new stadiums but they must do the same in the last Copa America and Argentina didn´t do it. Argentina have a problem. The state doest´n do a good job building stadiums, like in the case of San Juan stadium, and the clubs neither does , like in the case of Libertadores de America stadium and even their best stadim (Ciudad de la Plata) take almost 13 years to finish it. The other problem is that the most of big stadiums are situated only in Buenos Aires and the other provinces have low population. Most of the argentinan clubs can´t afford a five star stadium, just look at River Plate and Boca Jrs stadiums, despite they are the ritches clubs in that country, and the bigger in America. Argentina and Uruguay needs to follow the model used in USA, Germany, Mexico, Turkey, Canada... etc to consist of let multinational corporation to inject money in the construction of world class stadiums.