South Florida Transportation Part II

[CF221]

Granted. S Fla's vegetation is not of the kind to give much shade. However, you tell me what's better, having a beautiful palm tree that grants no shade while you're walking in the burning sun, or having a beautiful shade tree that grants shade while you're under the burning sun.

[1772]

Why would I-95 need shading trees?

[miami305]

Originally Posted by 1772

Why would I-95 need shading trees?

I think he meant the area in general not I95.

[CF221]

Yeah that's what I meant :P

[deambulante]

Originally Posted by ftlauddude

I-595 going green with $10 million in landscaping

By Mike Stocker, Sun Sentinel

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/bro...,7142303.story

Sorry to ask very basic questions, but it was a long time since I went on this interstate and just did last weekend, and was left wondering, what is the purpose of all those side mini-overpasses being built?

[mr jones]

Originally Posted by deambulante

Sorry to ask very basic questions, but it was a long time since I went on this interstate and just did last weekend, and was left wondering, what is the purpose of all those side mini-overpasses being built?

To reduce conflicts/slow downs on the mainline from exiting and entering traffic.

[ftlauddude]

Originally Posted by deambulante

Sorry to ask very basic questions, but it was a long time since I went on this interstate and just did last weekend, and was left wondering, what is the purpose of all those side mini-overpasses being built?

Originally Posted by mr jones

To reduce conflicts/slow downs on the mainline from exiting and entering traffic.

And also to allow for the construction of the reversible lanes in the median. Old I-595 was full of expressway weaving lanes which created gridlocks.

[ThatFloridaDude]

Originally Posted by CF221

Granted. S Fla's vegetation is not of the kind to give much shade. However, you tell me what's better, having a beautiful palm tree that grants no shade while you're walking in the burning sun, or having a beautiful shade tree that grants shade while you're under the burning sun.

I'll take the beautiful palm tree.

[1772]

Got it.
Shade trees for pedestrian streets and palms for highways.

[CF221]

[CalleOchoGringo]

Originally Posted by deambulante

Sorry to ask very basic questions, but it was a long time since I went on this interstate and just did last weekend, and was left wondering, what is the purpose of all those side mini-overpasses being built?

The overpasses and trees are to ensure as little money as possible is spend on mass transit or other alternatives. Oops, I mean, to beautify the side of the road and increase traffic flow.

/cynicism

[ftlauddude]

Originally Posted by CalleOchoGringo

The overpasses and trees are to ensure as little money as possible is spend on mass transit or other alternatives. Oops, I mean, to beautify the side of the road and increase traffic flow.

/cynicism

Here we go again! The purpose of this project is to allow for the reversible lanes that are key for this to happen: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1539250 There's also a BRT system in place (e-595) that will be using these lanes in the future. If that's not mass transit, don't really know what you actually want that would satisfy the density west Broward County's neighborhoods have.

[CalleOchoGringo]

Actually I'm nearly not as concerned with satisfying Broward's problems as I am with Dade's.

But since were on the subject, I guess what I want is a system that will handle far more traffic in any direction than a road will, no matter how reversible or snazzy as you make it. These lanes will simply make the future traffic jams of Broward one lane wider.

I'm honestly skeptical that BRT can work anywhere in this decentralized metro area other than from downtown FLL to downtown MIA and vise versa. Only when both the starting and ending points are as dense as that can it be made to work economically.

[CalleOchoGringo]

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[ftlauddude]

Originally Posted by CalleOchoGringo

Actually I'm nearly not as concerned with satisfying Broward's problems as I am with Dade's.

But since were on the subject, I guess what I want is a system that will handle far more traffic in any direction than a road will, no matter how reversible or snazzy as you make it. These lanes will simply make the future traffic jams of Broward one lane wider.

I'm honestly skeptical that BRT can work anywhere in this decentralized metro area other than from downtown FLL to downtown MIA and vise versa. Only when both the starting and ending points are as dense as that can it be made to work economically.

We all know you could care less about Broward but since you were talking about the project in question, which is is the area, I felt the need to share some information with you.

BRT is a cheap, outdated solution to our traffic problems. However, it has worked for the 'burbs. e-95 and e-595 are very successful routes with some reaching the 20K/day mark last article I read from the Sun Sentinel/Miami Herald. It works just as you describe; from one place to another. If you start adding stops, it completely looses its purpose. Maybe it should be implemented in west Miami-Dade selecting a Park-and-Ride location in Doral. Last time I was at a FES lunch, MDX was thinking about implementing something like that while this construction was going on. So far nothing has happened...

In other news:

WEEKEND TRI-RAIL DELAYS ANTICIPATED DUE TO SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE WORK

Tri-Rail passengers should anticipate delays on the weekends, for the remainder of 2012, due to scheduled maintenance work on road crossings. The work is necessary to allow Tri-Rail to implement an hourly schedule on the weekends, beginning on or about March 2, 2013. The South Florida Regional Transportation Authority, which operates Tri-Rail, currently runs trains every two hours on Saturdays, Sundays and holidays.

http://www.tri-rail.com/bulletins.htm#list45

[Paul305]

Just made a post on the Wave Streetcar thread that I'm moving here:

A subway is the only mode of transportation sexy enough for the beach. It would cost multiple billions of dollars but given the cost of land on the beach, so would a Metrorail or Metromover.

I think they should extend the Metrorail from Government Center along the FEC rail, down the entire length of Dodge Island then under Government Cut extending along Washington Ave., all the way to the Miami Beach Convention Center. At 3 miles in length, the tunnel would be 4 times as long as the Port of Miami tunnel, so it would cost something like $4B but it would be worth every penny.

Here's a map of what I think would be Miami's greatest accomplishment if completed:

[Paul305]

Transit Miami made a post showing a dozen or so renderings of the new Metrorail cars. Here's a preview:

[Paul305]

Some new photos of the Miami Intermodal Center from micdot.com:

[1772]

Originally Posted by Paul305

...
Here's a map of what I think would be Miami's greatest accomplishment if completed:

I've been thinking the same thing many times. It would probably relief MacArthur from alot of taxis and buses if cruise passangers could get from downtown, the terminal and South Beach with public transport.

[CF221]

Now, given the commissioners currently in office, do you think any would support such an undertaking?