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Old December 9th, 2012, 10:37 AM   #4521
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ah ic.. so I nderstand now... I thought Duterte is a leader that changed Davao as a model city pero hindi pala. So Davaoenos just made the effort to change the city as a model city free for crimes. Akala ko pa naman matapang si Duterte and he made something that made Davaoenos proud of him, ordinary mayor lang pala. So all credit should go to the people of Davao, not to Duterte.. di pala mahirap maging mayor sa Davao kasi isang sabi lang, sunod kaagad ang mga tao in their own way

kaya siguro walang casualties sa Davao City kase masunurin lahat ng tao in their own ways...
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ah ic.. so I nderstand now... I thought Duterte is a leader that changed Davao as a model city pero hindi pala. So Davaoenos just made the effort to change the city as a model city free for crimes. Akala ko pa naman matapang si Duterte and he made something that made Davaoenos proud of him, ordinary mayor lang pala. So all credit should go to the people of Davao, not to Duterte.. di pala mahirap maging mayor sa Davao kasi isang sabi lang, sunod kaagad ang mga tao in their own way

kaya siguro walang casualties sa Davao City kase masunurin lahat ng tao in their own ways...

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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:01 PM   #4523
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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:17 PM   #4524
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it's being helped by the warm waters in the SCS along with an improved outflow courtesy of the jet stream...


the effects of Climate Change in warming the Sea Surface Temperature in this country is alarming already, but adding up with man-made causes exacerbate it and could intensify typhoons and affect its directional paths


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It is well known that hurricane intensity is extremely sensitive to the magnitude of sea surface temperature (SST) (Emanuel, 1986, 1988; Holland, 1997). The SST effects can be categorized into (positive) direct and (negative) feedback effects. Clearly, the underlying warm ocean surface is an energy source for tropical cyclogenesis in the form of surface heat fluxes. This has been well demonstrated by many earlier observational and modeling studies (e.g., Riehl, 1950; Fisher, 1958; Ooyama, 1969). The maximum potential intensity (MPI) of tropical cyclones is also positively related to SST (Emanuel, 1988; Holland, 1997).

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Old December 10th, 2012, 02:15 PM   #4526
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ah ic.. so I nderstand now... I thought Duterte is a leader that changed Davao as a model city pero hindi pala. So Davaoenos just made the effort to change the city as a model city free for crimes. Akala ko pa naman matapang si Duterte and he made something that made Davaoenos proud of him, ordinary mayor lang pala. So all credit should go to the people of Davao, not to Duterte.. di pala mahirap maging mayor sa Davao kasi isang sabi lang, sunod kaagad ang mga tao in their own way

kaya siguro walang casualties sa Davao City kase masunurin lahat ng tao in their own ways...
Only Duterte could do what the Dabawenyos want. No exception to ordinary Filipino who wants crime rate down(impossible to be crime-free), Filipinos who could defend them in times of crisis. But it's rare to have a "Duterte".
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Old December 10th, 2012, 03:02 PM   #4527
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Inggit lang yan.
The thing is DCplinado lang ang mga taga-Davao. People from other cities look up to you because of what and where you are now.

And one more thing. Crab mentality will always stay as one of the finest character of a Filipino. Why cant we be happy for everyone. I guess we just have to lived with it.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 03:29 PM   #4529
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Only Duterte could do what the Dabawenyos want. No exception to ordinary Filipino who wants crime rate down(impossible to be crime-free), Filipinos who could defend them in times of crisis. But it's rare to have a "Duterte".
yan din pagka kilala ko kay Duterte eh, matapang... with political will... yan sana ang lahat ng mayor sa buong bansa pero hindi kase daw sabi ni @mahadlika aka Skion magkasalungat kayo ng sinasabi eh ano ba talaga ate?


anyway, so much for the entertainment

@Doc, how about the worth of the destruction? saan ba lulugar si Pablo sa costliest typhoons in the Ph?
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yan din pagka kilala ko kay Duterte eh, matapang... with political will... yan sana ang lahat ng mayor sa buong bansa pero hindi kase daw sabi ni @mahadlika aka Skion magkasalungat kayo ng sinasabi eh ano ba talaga ate?
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DOHA, Qatar - The Philippines urged UN climate negotiators in Doha on Thursday to learn from the deadly typhoon that struck the archipelago this week and wake up to the realities of global warming.

"I appeal to the whole world, I appeal to leaders from all over the world, to open our eyes to the stark reality that we face," Filipino climate negotiator Naderev Sano told the yearly gathering of nearly 200 countries.

"An important backdrop for my delegation is the profound impacts of climate change that we are already confronting. As we sit here, every single hour, even as we vacillate and procrastinate here, the death toll is rising."

Officials say a quarter of a million people were made homeless and 477 confirmed dead after the Philippines' worst typhoon this year.

Negotiators entered the penultimate day of talks in the Qatari capital on Thursday deeply divided on the issue of near-term finance for poor nations' global warming mitigation.

The issue is key to the adoption of a package of plans by Friday for limiting climate-altering greenhouse gas emissions, as scientists warn that the world is headed for calamitous warming levels accompanied by more extreme weather events.

"I appeal to all, please, no more delays, no more excuses," said Sano.

"Please, let Doha be remembered as the place where we found the political will to turn things around. Please, let 2012 be remembered as the year the world found the courage to find the will to take responsibility for the future we want."

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on Tuesday urged negotiators to put aside their differences and find compromises in tackling the mounting global warming "crisis."

Developed countries are being asked to show how they intend to keep a promise to raise climate funding for poor countries to $100 billion (76 billion euros) per year by 2020 -- up from a total of $30 billion in 2010-2012.

Developing countries say they need at least another $60 billion between now and 2015 to deal with the fallout from climate change.

The United States and European Union, as a bloc, have refused to put concrete figures on the table in Doha for new 2013-2020 climate funding. - Agence France Presse
http://www.rappler.com/nation/17463-...-climate-talks




While the call may be well meaning that reflected the sentiment esp. of those that will be vulnerable and directly affected by the ills of Climate Change, but this Yellow administration is exhibiting its two-faced hypocrisy trademark as usual.

While appealing for cooperation it neither does in its own turf as it systematically favored financiers particularly those in coal plants and mining where RE investments were not prioritized nor encouraged despite the landmark RE Law of the previous administration it mudslinged, even insidiously suspected sabotage of Mindanao power supply allegedly by culprits to justify saturation of coal plants in Mindanao after the election, and inhumane atrocities committed esp. against the stewards of remaining ecological resource the marginalized Indigenous Peoples by the offenses of large mining agenda.

These misdirected paths by the Yellow administration's Daang Matuwad will worsen the country's position as the World's most vulnerable to Climate Change and its calamitous warnings pitting the populace to alarmingly precarious situation. Even this time dragging Mindanaoans by its contemptuous folly as evidenced by the recent typhoon tragedy recently and last year exacerbated by warming sea surface temperature that affects typhoon tracks and intensity at more alarming level..

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Old December 10th, 2012, 04:29 PM   #4532
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PNoy always voicing "Zero Casualty", that's setting a high bar for risk reduction. Is he really serious? Preemtive is not the solution if we want "closer" to Zero casualty. Those new high-tech gadgets cannot save the poor and non-technical Juan de la Cruz in this thypoon-prone country.Why is it always "after" the storm and not before the storm we work on the problem? we should thoroughly make a master plan of evacuation scheme 3days before the storm will hit the country, Military commander should orchestrate the evacuation plan. Logistics is the key, it's expensive but in totality expenses for search search, rescue and retriieving dead bodies is more expensive, imho.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 04:42 PM   #4533
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yan din pagka kilala ko kay Duterte eh, matapang... with political will... yan sana ang lahat ng mayor sa buong bansa pero hindi kase daw sabi ni @mahadlika aka Skion magkasalungat kayo ng sinasabi eh ano ba talaga ate?


anyway, so much for the entertainment

@Doc, how about the worth of the destruction? saan ba lulugar si Pablo sa costliest typhoons in the Ph?
at Php 7 Billion as of today, Pablo now places as the 7th costliest typhoon in the country since 1946, Pablo also with 647 deaths is ranked the 12th deadliest typhoon in the Philippines...and remember more than 700 are still missing. Regarding its winds we are still waiting for the data on which weather station/instrument Pablo registered the highest gust .... on radar kasi its 259 kph max sustained, thats 1 kph lower than Anding in 1987 and Rosing in 1995

to be specific with typhoons in Mindanao these are the deadliest since the weather bureau was established in 1946

1. NITANG (Ike) 1984 - 1,363 deaths (shared with Visayas)
2. SENDONG (Washi) 2011 - 1,257 deaths (shared with Visayas)
3. RUPING (Mike) 1990 - 748 (shared with Visayas)
4. TITANG (Kate) 1970 - 631
5. INING (Louise) 1964 - 400 (shared with Visayas)
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maraming ininterview ng TV Patrol episode kahapon na taga don.. kaya maraming namatay coz di sila naniwala na may bagyong tatama don... same din daw nong tsunami alert tapos wala namang dumating.. ang iba naman, di nila inasahan na ganunpala kalakas ang isang bagyo kaya di sila na evacuate
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I totally agree on this prevention is better than cure

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PNoy always voicing "Zero Casualty", that's setting a high bar for risk reduction. Is he really serious? Preemtive is not the solution if we want "closer" to Zero casualty. Those new high-tech gadgets cannot save the poor and non-technical Juan de la Cruz in this thypoon-prone country.Why is it always "after" the storm and not before the storm we work on the problem? we should thoroughly make a master plan of evacuation scheme 3days before the storm will hit the country, Military commander should orchestrate the evacuation plan. Logistics is the key, it's expensive but in totality expenses for search search, rescue and retriieving dead bodies is more expensive, imho.
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maraming ininterview ng TV Patrol episode kahapon na taga don.. kaya maraming namatay coz di sila naniwala na may bagyong tatama don... same din daw nong tsunami alert tapos wala namang dumating.. ang iba naman, di nila inasahan na ganunpala kalakas ang isang bagyo kaya di sila na evacuate
Comment's allright. But with a "Yes" icon?
Was that a rhetorical question? I wonder?! Typical.
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maraming ininterview ng TV Patrol episode kahapon na taga don.. kaya maraming namatay coz di sila naniwala na may bagyong tatama don... same din daw nong tsunami alert tapos wala namang dumating.. ang iba naman, di nila inasahan na ganunpala kalakas ang isang bagyo kaya di sila na evacuate
Big questions in the minds of those unlucky brothers and sisters: "Evacuate where, how, etc?". Granting that the LGU did the most efficient and successful information dissemination, etc, may choices ba sila before the storm came?
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where and how to evacuate? You mean people there don't know how to evacuate? And the LGU's told them to evacuate but they didn't tell people where? Grabe naman kung ganun... Comp Valley IMO is a 1st class na lugar for people to be ignorant like that na pati pag evacuate hindi alam...

malaki ang pinagkaka iba ng nag evacuate pero hindi pinalad kase pati evacuation inanod
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hindi pinalad kase di nag evacuate...

the 1st one is what we call, ""No choice"// kapalaran na talaga nila yan.
the second one means may dahilan para sisihin din sila... not doing their best to survive kung baga...
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where and how to evacuate? You mean people there don't know how to evacuate? And the LGU's told them to evacuate but they didn't tell people where? Grabe naman kung ganun... Comp Valley IMO is a 1st class na lugar for people to be ignorant like that na pati pag evacuate hindi alam...

malaki ang pinagkaka iba ng nag evacuate pero hindi pinalad kase pati evacuation inanod
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hindi pinalad kase di nag evacuate...

the 1st one is what we call, ""No choice"// kapalaran na talaga nila yan.
the second one means may dahilan para sisihin din sila... not doing their best to survive kung baga...


magsalita kapal ng apog pang manisi sa mga biktima, can't even sensibly comprehend their situation, what stupidity pulpol na argument mo.


many of those people in the area had not yet experienced typhoon in their lives, much less a super typhoon until Mindanao suddenly became visited by deadly typhoons and it always directs itself to the area where sea temperatures being most crucial is located, and there discover kung ano dapat sisihin, baka na-guiguilty ka kaya ganyan asal mo.

I knew of someone who lived there. Had they were not brave enough to get out of their house despite the typhoon they would have been among the victims as in a few moments they saw their house felled by trees and rolled down by strong winds. Even otherwise stronger structures like a government facility in their area with steel trusses fell underneath and crumbled like mangled sticks. Kung duon nag-evacuate yung mga tao mas lalong may casualty and it's not even that predictable. Dagdagan pa ang kainutilan ng presidenteng binoto nyo na incompetent sa prevention ni walang alam kung functioning ba yung device in the area to track typhoon resulting to inaccurate forecasts.

what if we discuss instead kung sino ang mas dapat sisihin, yung mga biktima o ikaw na may apog na manisi sa kanila because compared to them and yours, be assured mas dapat kang sisihin.

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magsalita kapal ng apog pang manisi sa mga biktima, can't even sensibly comprehend their situation, what stupidity pulpol na argument mo.


many of those people in the area had not yet experienced typhoon in their lives, much less a super typhoon until Mindanao suddenly became visited by deadly typhoons and it always directs itself to areas where sea temperatures are most crucial is located, and there discover kung ano dapat sisihin, baka na-guiguilty ka kaya ganyan asal mo.

I knew of someone who lived there. Had they were not brave enough to get out of their house despite the typhoon they would have been among the victims as in a few moments they saw their house felled by trees and rolled down by strong winds. Even otherwise stronger structures like a government facility in their area with steel trusses fell underneath and crumbled like mangled sticks. Kung duon nag-evacuate yung mga tao mas lalong may casualty and it's not even that predictable. Dagdagan pa ang kainutilan ng presidenteng binoto nyo na incompetent sa prevention ni walang alam kung functioning ba yung device in the area to track typhoon resulting to inaccurate forecasts.

what if we discuss instead kung sino ang mas dapat sisihin, yung mga biktima o ikaw na may apog na manisi sa kanila because compared to them and yours, be assured mas dapat kang sisihin.
I just hope and pray to this "slerz" that next time whenever there is typhoon that comes his way, wala sanang kamag anak na masawi o masaktan man...


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