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Old August 25th, 2012, 03:17 PM   #321
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Thanks Ripper Roo

Wow, that looks pretty quality. I am very pleasantly surprised. Based on that illustration it looks like the materials used are of very high quality and the overall design is very modern. It is certainly alot better then many of the new 15-20k seater barns built in the lower leagues of the UK. Actually, if I didn't know the capacity I would say it looked more like a 30k seater!

I know there are meant to be 2 new-build stands and 2 refurbished stands but it looks like one of the stands is having so much done in terms of its integrated roof (etc) that you'd wonder why they didn't just build one 270 degree "new" structure.
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Old August 28th, 2012, 01:17 PM   #322
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The Stadium looks fantastic and I'm just glad that its not just a typical bowl design. Looks great. I hope they do something with all the space around the ground, like some sort of fanzone to add to the pre game build up
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Old August 29th, 2012, 09:01 PM   #323
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Old August 29th, 2012, 09:09 PM   #324
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I like it! It's modern without being OTT and a perfectly good national stadium.


Yes it's not as glamorous and spectacular as some new national stadia, but I think this suits and it's fit for purpose. The IFA have done a great job!
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Old August 29th, 2012, 09:22 PM   #325
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Personally, I am not convinced about it. I have always been against bowl or half bowl (in thios case) stadiums and this is no different to me. However it is better than what is already there and will be fit for use at international level, although the Blueman in me is concerned at what this will be like domestically throughout the footballing season with regards to being even more empty, green seats (possibly) and stadium naming rights being sold off to the highest bidder.
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Old August 29th, 2012, 09:28 PM   #326
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Personally, I am not convinced about it. I have always been against bowl or half bowl (in thios case) stadiums and this is no different to me. However it is better than what is already there and will be fit for use at international level, although the Blueman in me is concerned at what this will be like domestically throughout the footballing season with regards to being even more empty, green seats (possibly) and stadium naming rights being sold off to the highest bidder.

I see your point, but to be fair, that's part of the compromise fans will have to make for having public money used to effectively build a brand new stadium. I don't see the naming rights being an issue, Windsor Park is likely to remain.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 08:04 AM   #327
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Very impressive! to be honest I had to look twice as it does look more like a 35000 seater stadium. Hopefully it will inspire the team to start playing some football. Cant wait to see plans for Casement now to see what they can do with 75million. Im sure Ulster rugby will be asking themselves why they didnt ask for more money lol.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 08:19 AM   #328
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One point though if they can wrap the new roof over one existing stand then why not both old stands to make it look better.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 05:26 PM   #329
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Thanks for those renders! It does look pretty good! Based on the budget I think they have done pretty well.

I am'nt that familiar with the area, but after Ripper Roo described it to me a few pages back I had a look at google-maps. On that basis, if they were absolutely wedded to the idea of retaining the North Stand and not shifting the Stadium several hunbdred feet onto the neighbouring pitches, I am a little surprised that they didn't opt to demolish the West Stand and extend a little towards Boucher Rd. If they had done that they could have accommodated upper tier seating on the East and West Stands along with Both corner sections. This would have probably boosted capacity to 25k or so which is still managable. Remember, figures of 35-45k were bandied around for the Maze Stadium and I think even the "Blanchflower Stadium" was 25-30K.

Having said that, this will still be a vast improvement!

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Old August 31st, 2012, 05:29 PM   #330
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Personally, I am not convinced about it. I have always been against bowl or half bowl (in thios case) stadiums and this is no different to me. However it is better than what is already there and will be fit for use at international level, although the Blueman in me is concerned at what this will be like domestically throughout the footballing season with regards to being even more empty, green seats (possibly) and stadium naming rights being sold off to the highest bidder.
Have you guys ever thought of selling off Windsor and building a smaller but more appropriately scaled stadium for Irish League games? I know there is a historical attachment but it could end up working out better. And, then Windsor would be more of a National Stadium for Cup finals/European games.

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Old August 31st, 2012, 05:31 PM   #331
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Personally, I am not convinced about it. I have always been against bowl or half bowl (in thios case) stadiums and this is no different to me. However it is better than what is already there and will be fit for use at international level, although the Blueman in me is concerned at what this will be like domestically throughout the footballing season with regards to being even more empty, green seats (possibly) and stadium naming rights being sold off to the highest bidder.
Just a thought but there are new multi-coloured interspirced seating patterns (used alot in Germany) which make vast tracts of empty seating alot less obvious. Do you know the type I mean??
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Old September 27th, 2012, 01:46 PM   #332
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just a news article on Government stadium grants

http://www.stadiumguide.com/new-stad...thern-ireland/
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 11:39 PM   #333
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The new Windsor Park looks really good. It will be a well-executed refurbish if it lives up to the renders on the information boards. What do you think about the capacity though? 18,000 strikes me as quite limited considering it's intended to be the national football stadium of Northern Ireland, a place with 1.8 million (and growing) people. By way of comparison, Thomond Park, the provincial stadium of Munster, a region of 1.2 million people can accommodate 26,000 (not to mention Musgrave Park in Cork). Similarly, Semple Stadium is the main GAA stadium of Munster and it can hold crowds of 55,000. Surely Windsor Park should have a 30,000 seat capacity at least. All this being said, it is a very promising development and will be a distinctive stadium once completed.
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Old October 3rd, 2012, 10:30 PM   #334
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Windsor Park is on the edge on a heavily built up residential area, so I would be sure that the planning dept would not allow the capacity to raise much higher than 18,00, if at all. At the moment Northern Ireland international games are not pulling in sell-outs like a few years ago, and at the moment there is less than 12,500 seats in the ground. It wouldn't also make sense to make it a 30,000 seat as Linfield FC (owners of the land) don't even attract 2000 to a league game nowadays as opposed to over 6,000 for a regular league game when i began going every week.

Above renders are not complete final representation of the final design, this is an artist's impression. So we still do not know what the final product will look like yet.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 10:42 PM   #335
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Windsor Park is on the edge on a heavily built up residential area, so I would be sure that the planning dept would not allow the capacity to raise much higher than 18,00, if at all. At the moment Northern Ireland international games are not pulling in sell-outs like a few years ago, and at the moment there is less than 12,500 seats in the ground. It wouldn't also make sense to make it a 30,000 seat as Linfield FC (owners of the land) don't even attract 2000 to a league game nowadays as opposed to over 6,000 for a regular league game when i began going every week.

Above renders are not complete final representation of the final design, this is an artist's impression. So we still do not know what the final product will look like yet.
Thanks for the clarification Ripper Roo. When you put it like that, it's only sensible that the capacity is 18 rather than 30,000. Still, that's a bit disappointing all the same.
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Great result against Portugal btw! Although, you do have a quality coach in MON. A few Rovers fans I know would give their eye teeth to have him back!
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Old November 7th, 2012, 01:32 AM   #337
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Do all N.Ireland Clubs get the chance to apply for grants for stadium improvements/new stadiums??

Does the money come from the IFA or the government?
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Old November 7th, 2012, 10:53 PM   #338
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Do all N.Ireland Clubs get the chance to apply for grants for stadium improvements/new stadiums??

Does the money come from the IFA or the government?
All clubs can apply for a grant, provided they can meet 15% of the total cost of the project.


Money is from DCAL through Sport NI
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Old December 11th, 2012, 07:00 PM   #339
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Irish FA submits planning application for Windsor project


The Irish FA says work on the Windsor Park redevelopment is due to begin next September after it formally submitted its planning application for the project.
Around £29.2m is being spent on the Windsor Park project which will raise the stadium's capacity to 18,000.
The IFA said on Tuesday that work will begin next September "if the plans are given the green light".
The submission of the application follows a consultation process.
People across Northern Ireland were given the opportunity to submit thoughts on the project after viewing the the planning application.
The design team, led by RPS Consulting Engineers, and the IFA then finalised the planning application before its submission.
"RPS are pleased that the planning application and supporting environmental reports have been submitted on time," said Raymond Holbeach from RPS.
"The planning application has been submitted following an intensive period of community and statutory body consultation as well as completion of environmental and transport assessments that influenced the development of the design for the Stadium.
"The redeveloped Stadium will result in environmental benefits for the local community including reduction in noise and light pollution."
IFA chief executive Patrick Nelson said he was "delighted that the planning application has finally been submitted".
"We had made it a key target to have our planning application submitted by this date and I am delighted that we have achieved this," added the IFA chief.
"The design for our redeveloped National Stadium truly is impressive, and I would like to thank everyone who took the time to give their thoughts and ideas to us during the community consultation process.
"I know that the new Windsor Park will be a stadium we will all be proud of."
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Old December 19th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #340
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I saw an item on the redevelopment on the News last week. Did they release any more illustrations as part of the planning app?

Ripper Roo....I know you are a blueman....given that Linfield will be fairly imtimately involved would you have access to more detailed renders?

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