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Old December 10th, 2012, 04:28 AM   #8701
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Its a usual practice amongst LCCs, I see that in LCCs in the US as well. They do not waste any time in dropping routes that are deemed unprofitable to them.
The problem with this approach is that is smacks of profit oriented motives primarily and genuine customer service secondly - but isn't that what businesses are in business for - to make money?

The clash happens because travelers plan their trips up to one year in advance - whereas the airline can pull out of a route in just a matter of months. And it is most unfortunate for those who get the rug pulled from underneath them just as they're about to leave (e.g. Air Australia which ceased operations unexpectedly on February 17, 2012, stranding 4000 pax).
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sa clark daw to??

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Old December 10th, 2012, 11:04 AM   #8703
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sa clark daw to??

Oo nakita ko yan noong 09.Dec.2012 Puting tent na parang plastic ang mga nagsisilbing walls niya around, ganyan yata ang ilalagay din sa Tagbilaran, Puerto Princesa at Kalibo as temporary terminal extension (acc. to DOT Sec. Jimenez) habang ginagawa pa ang terminal.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 01:16 PM   #8704
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even for LCCS, the value proposition of Clark is diminishing
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Old December 11th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #8705
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In a letter by Chairman Mather to Casanova, it read: “We are particularly eager that you accept our invitation because of the importance of the economic growth agenda worldwide…. Your new ‘Green and Intelligent City’ due to be constructed at the Clark Special Economic Zone is of particular interest to our global audience.
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apparently, not only the few Filipinos who has the eyes for the Clark Green City but also the International audience.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 07:13 PM   #8706
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Old December 11th, 2012, 08:18 PM   #8707
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apparently, not only the few Filipinos who has the eyes for the Clark Green City but also the International audience.
Looks like a Green and Intelligent City should become one of my key projects to watch for because I can truly see the potential foe CRK to evolve into a sustainable city, something Metro Manila could examine if it can adjust its priorities.
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Old December 18th, 2012, 04:51 AM   #8708
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Call to transfer flights in NAIA to Clark renewed

Due to expected increase of passengers arriving and departing for Christmas, an advocacy group renewed its call for the government to transfer some international and domestic flights to Clark International Airport (CIA).
The Center for Strategic Initiatives (CSI), a private think tank, said transferring 30 or 40 percent of flights to CIA will ease Metro Manila of traffic, especially by those going to and from the Ninoy Aquino International Airport 1, 2 and 3.
“Everyone should think that 25 percent of people in the Philippines live in northern and Central Luzon. This means they don’t have business in Manila. The government will do big favor for them if the plane they will board or alight will not be in Metro Manila,” CSI president Renato Diaz told The Daily Tribune in an exclusive interview.
For over a decade now, NAIA is a source of irritant for many passengers because of clogged runways, decrepit facilities and even smelly comfort rooms. Many airlines landing at its tarmac are advised to take a “sidetrip” to Maragondon, Cavite to let passengers forget there is no vacancy yet for the plane at the tarmac.
According to Diaz, if the planned transfer of some flights to CIA is not possible due to absence of train that will expedite travel from Manila to Clark Field in Pampanga, the government must let private firms build the two connectors between South Luzon Expressway (Slex) and North Luzon Expressway (Nlex).
“If the common alignment is not yet settled, then the problem must be settled. What the two groups must do is talk and arrange how the project can be done,” the CSI president, who is an investment banker, explained.
Citra expressed willingness to shoulder the construction expenses for common alignment but opposed to suggestion that tolls at the common sector be equally divided between skyway and the connector operator.
At present, only skyway 3 of Citra and San Miguel Corp. might start construction in January 2013 as the Slex-Nlex connector of the Manny Pangilinan-led firm has no timetable yet when to start.
Skyway 3 is under the Department of Transportation and Communications (DoTC) while the connector is under the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH).
Diaz said the government must be ready for the result of the effort of Tourism Secretary Ramon Jimenez to bring in many tourists in the Philippines placed at 10 million by 2016.
Jimenez was quoted earlier that this year alone, tourists worldwide number about one billion. From this number, the Tourism chief said at least 10 million foreign tourists will be in the Philippines four years from now.
“Are we ready for that influx? If not, then we should brace for guests relocating to Thailand or Indonesia,” the CSI president said.
He also dismissed criticisms that some flights cannot be transferred to CIA because the airport inside the former US Air Force base is 85 kilometers away from NAIA.
“Vietnam is building similar airport far from Ho Chi Minh City, the same with Heathrow Airport in London and Beijing. So what’s the problem on us located 85 kilometers away from the city?” he asked.
As this story was being completed, a 60-year-old woman waiting for her flight to Hong Kong landed in a hospital when the ceiling of a Goldilocks outlet at the NAIA 2 collapsed and hit her on the head.
The passenger, whose name was withheld, was buying pastries at the pre-departure area when a portion of the aluminum ceiling, which was being cleaned by a staff, collapsed at around 8:45 a.m. the other day.
The passenger was rushed to the Philippine Airlines clinic before she was transferred to St. Luke’s Medical Center in Global City.
The passenger suffered a laceration and hematoma but was in stable condition and had been re-booked on the next available flight.


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Old December 19th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #8709
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As if the tourists they were talking about were really foreign tourists and not filipino expats who changed their citizenship to their adopted countries such as US, Canada and Australia. I doubt if these tourists would relocate to Thailand or Indonesia. I'm sure somehow, some of those real foreign tourists would consider thailand and indonesia. Besides, the government can't force foreign airline companies to transfer some of their operations to Clark. It's not really up for the Philippine goverment to force them or else some of them would end up doing what KLM did or other foreign airlines did, withdraw their operations in the Philippines. For one, the Philippine goverment is still looking for a private firm to fund Clark's project and up to now, there are no other offers since Kuwait investors where turned down by Arroyo administration and Ramon Ang backed out on Clark LLC airport terminal plan. The advocacy group can call for renewal of plans all they want, it just won't cut it right now. Not without the connector highway completely put in place and the rail system is not a 100% guarantee either, it may help a little but but it will not solve the problem.
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Old December 20th, 2012, 12:33 PM   #8710
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Call to transfer flights in NAIA to Clark renewed

Due to expected increase of passengers arriving and departing for Christmas, an advocacy group renewed its call for the government to transfer some international and domestic flights to Clark International Airport (CIA).
The Center for Strategic Initiatives (CSI), a private think tank, said transferring 30 or 40 percent of flights to CIA will ease Metro Manila of traffic, especially by those going to and from the Ninoy Aquino International Airport 1, 2 and 3.
“Everyone should think that 25 percent of people in the Philippines live in northern and Central Luzon. This means they don’t have business in Manila. The government will do big favor for them if the plane they will board or alight will not be in Metro Manila,” CSI president Renato Diaz told The Daily Tribune in an exclusive interview.
For over a decade now, NAIA is a source of irritant for many passengers because of clogged runways, decrepit facilities and even smelly comfort rooms. Many airlines landing at its tarmac are advised to take a “sidetrip” to Maragondon, Cavite to let passengers forget there is no vacancy yet for the plane at the tarmac.
According to Diaz, if the planned transfer of some flights to CIA is not possible due to absence of train that will expedite travel from Manila to Clark Field in Pampanga, the government must let private firms build the two connectors between South Luzon Expressway (Slex) and North Luzon Expressway (Nlex).
“If the common alignment is not yet settled, then the problem must be settled. What the two groups must do is talk and arrange how the project can be done,” the CSI president, who is an investment banker, explained.
Citra expressed willingness to shoulder the construction expenses for common alignment but opposed to suggestion that tolls at the common sector be equally divided between skyway and the connector operator.
At present, only skyway 3 of Citra and San Miguel Corp. might start construction in January 2013 as the Slex-Nlex connector of the Manny Pangilinan-led firm has no timetable yet when to start.
Skyway 3 is under the Department of Transportation and Communications (DoTC) while the connector is under the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH).
Diaz said the government must be ready for the result of the effort of Tourism Secretary Ramon Jimenez to bring in many tourists in the Philippines placed at 10 million by 2016.
Jimenez was quoted earlier that this year alone, tourists worldwide number about one billion. From this number, the Tourism chief said at least 10 million foreign tourists will be in the Philippines four years from now.
“Are we ready for that influx? If not, then we should brace for guests relocating to Thailand or Indonesia,” the CSI president said.
He also dismissed criticisms that some flights cannot be transferred to CIA because the airport inside the former US Air Force base is 85 kilometers away from NAIA.
“Vietnam is building similar airport far from Ho Chi Minh City, the same with Heathrow Airport in London and Beijing. So what’s the problem on us located 85 kilometers away from the city?” he asked.
As this story was being completed, a 60-year-old woman waiting for her flight to Hong Kong landed in a hospital when the ceiling of a Goldilocks outlet at the NAIA 2 collapsed and hit her on the head.
The passenger, whose name was withheld, was buying pastries at the pre-departure area when a portion of the aluminum ceiling, which was being cleaned by a staff, collapsed at around 8:45 a.m. the other day.
The passenger was rushed to the Philippine Airlines clinic before she was transferred to St. Luke’s Medical Center in Global City.
The passenger suffered a laceration and hematoma but was in stable condition and had been re-booked on the next available flight.


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Does the think-tank really believe that if this happens, airlines will be able to serve those people flying to Clark considering the limited planes they have (well maybe not anymore when PAL has the rest of their new planes arriving). Right now it seems Clark is losing citypairs like in the case of AirAsia. The load factors must really be lower than others.
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Old December 20th, 2012, 12:40 PM   #8711
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In all my flights from Clark, the load was always full.
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Old December 20th, 2012, 12:46 PM   #8712
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In all my flights from Clark, the load was always full.
All carriers? I know the reason AirAsia pulled out from CRKBKI was because they were losing out to the others.

Right now I think it is too early because there is not yet that much competition in Clark. Once you get everyone else onboard a route, the competition will really bite. But LCCs can fill their flights easily with the right "last minute" sales that is dictated by their reservations system. And besides, they overbook.
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Old December 20th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #8713
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In all my flights from Clark, the load was always full.
one flight out of a hundred is not a good sample
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Old December 20th, 2012, 01:27 PM   #8714
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All carriers? I know the reason AirAsia pulled out from CRKBKI was because they were losing out to the others.

Right now I think it is too early because there is not yet that much competition in Clark. Once you get everyone else onboard a route, the competition will really bite. But LCCs can fill their flights easily with the right "last minute" sales that is dictated by their reservations system. And besides, they overbook.
Flights to and from Clark by the way. It also depends on the schedule I guess. All my flights were at peak hours except one. Usually, domestic flights really have lesser loads from Clark unlike international flights especially CRK-ICN v.v.
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Old December 20th, 2012, 01:30 PM   #8715
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And these loads of people are more of people coming from Central Luzon and northern provinces as Clark is te nearer airport than Manila but definitely not to all destinations that they can fly to from Manila.
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Old December 21st, 2012, 05:46 AM   #8716
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Senate OKs $5 million to restore Clark cemetery


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Posted : Thursday Dec 20, 2012 12:21:44 EST
“The U.S. government has a moral responsibility to care for veterans cemeteries that honor those who have bravely served our country,” Ayotte said in a news release. “The American veterans buried in Clark Veterans Cemetery deserve a dignified and well-maintained final resting place, and it’s time for the U.S. to again fulfill its responsibility to care for this sacred ground.”
If the measure is approved by the House, it would mark a major victory for a nonprofit organization that has been working hard to get the U.S. government to take over responsibility for the cemetery, which has become dilapidated.
“As a country, we owe our veterans and their families a great debt that we can hardly begin to repay,” Begich said in the news release. “The U.S. government must be accountable for ensuring the thousands of American service members buried at Clark Veterans Cemetery are afforded a proper burial ground reflecting the honor and respect with which they served.”
After World War II, the remains of more than 5,000 troops and Army civilians were transferred to Clark Veterans Cemetery to make room for a cemetery for the World War II fallen. During the remainder of the U.S. military’s presence in the Philippines, dependents were buried at Clark.
But as the U.S. was leaving the Philippines and Clark Air Base, a volcanic eruption in 1991 at Mount Pinatubo buried the roughly 8,600 tombstones there in about a foot of ash. Since then, a local Veterans of Foreign Wars post has taken responsibility for the cemetery’s upkeep, but with the donations they get, members can only keep the cemetery from deteriorating further.
It would take about $2.5 million to get rid of all the ash and reset the tombstones, said Dennis Wright, chairman of the Clark Veterans Cemetery Restoration Association, a nonprofit group that has been advocating for the American Battle Monuments Commission to assume responsibility for maintaining the cemetery.
Wright was awakened shortly after midnight his time Friday in the Philippines when a reporter called to tell him about the Clark legislation passing the Senate.
“Awesome, awesome, awesome!” Wright said. He then added another “awesome!”
Wright thanked Ayotte for all of her persistent efforts to get the measure passed.
“What a wonderful Christmas present for all of those that have been waiting for all this time to finally get the recognition that they deserve,” he said.
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Old December 21st, 2012, 01:43 PM   #8718
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Clark airport eyed as Asia’s next Aerotropolis
By Reynaldo G. Navales
Friday, December 21, 2012

CLARK FREEPORT --- Tourism officials in the Central Luzon are eyeing Clark International Airport as Asia’s next progressive Aerotropolis.

Department of Tourism (DOT) regional director Ronnie Tiotuico said with the world’s economic center rapidly moving eastward, there is an increasing urgency to develop Clark International Airport into an aviation hub.

Tiotuico said this is the focus of a two-day conference that will be held February 21 to 22 at the Widus Convention Center inside the Freeport.

“The Case for Asia’s Next Aerotropolis” is the theme of the Clark Aviation Conference 2013, a trade gathering that will examine Clark’s compelling case as an aerotropolis, an idea in community planning where airports serve as the center for new cities growing around them.

The conference is organized by Clark International Airport Corp., in partnership with Global Gateway Logistics City, with support from the DOT-Central Luzon.

The event will highlight Clark International Airport’s critical role in easing air traffic congestion in Manila and driving economic expansion in Central Luzon.

It will also identify infrastructure and policy developments at Clark Freeport that are designed to attract airport-related businesses and investments.

Heads of government agencies—including the trade, tourism, and transportation and communications departments as well as the Bases Conversion Development Authority and private-sector representatives will look at Clark’s prospects as an aviation and investment destination in Asia.

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Geez, I didn't say all flights from Clark have full loads.
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