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Old December 12th, 2012, 03:38 AM   #4841
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Saw a brief newsflash that a Ryanair plane whose crew were trying to make up lost time made a hard (No, I dont mean that in the landing gear not deployed sense) landing at Manchester.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 12:30 PM   #4842
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Saw a brief newsflash that a Ryanair plane whose crew were trying to make up lost time made a hard (No, I dont mean that in the landing gear not deployed sense) landing at Manchester.
Was at Memmingen in Germany on a flight FROM Manchester

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Old December 12th, 2012, 09:36 PM   #4843
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With the 8th based aircraft, Easyjet have also upped the frequency on Geneva (9 weekly in summer now with the addition of a Sunday flight), Malta (now 6 weekly with the addition of a Tuesday flight), Skiathos (now 2 weekly and not even launched yet) and Paphos (now daily).
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Old December 14th, 2012, 02:33 PM   #4844
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Ryanair are basing their 6th aircraft at MAN.

Due to this, the timetable has some hefty increases, such as Alicante rising from 4 flight per week to 11 flights per week.
Other increases were noted, but cannot remember them all.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 03:22 PM   #4845
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Talking of stats: this is on Pprune but is a lesson in how not to interpret data:


You would never take the peak as the `norm'. Looking at the figures Manchester is at the bottom of the 30 year range and the median figure would be c10%.

Therefore, since Manchester has not moved location you would/could make a case for saying 25-30m would be the true position? Something Ryan & Easy are aware of and would look to expand it very quickly?

Time will tell.
Here's the same figures for Heathrow:

1990 41.68%
1991 42.06%
1992 42.41%
1993 42.45%
1994 42.07%
1995 41.86%
1996 41.04%
1997 39.40%
1998 37.96%
1999 36.79%
2000 35.71%
2001 33.36%
2002 33.39%
2003 31.61%
2004 31.12%
2005 29.66%
2006 28.64%
2007 28.19%
2008 28.43%
2009 30.21%
2010 31.21%
2011 31.64%

Is anyone suggesting structural decline there? Not that I've heard.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 04:12 PM   #4846
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Here's the same figures for Heathrow:

2006 28.64%
2007 28.19%
2008 28.43%
2009 30.21%
2010 31.21%
2011 31.64%

Is anyone suggesting structural decline there? Not that I've heard.
Indeed, and looking at the last 6 years they are roaring back as I presume T5 came on stream and the economic crisis impacted.

It will be more interesting to see how Manchester's share of the NW airmarket has performed over the last six years? A real battering until 24months ago, then a massive leap as all the regions growth and the decline at LJL was mopped up. With the news on Ryanair above the figures should continue to rocket upwards, with 25-30m being a natural ceiling based on market share/impact of the big 2?
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Old December 14th, 2012, 04:31 PM   #4847
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Ryanair are basing their 6th aircraft at MAN.

Due to this, the timetable has some hefty increases, such as Alicante rising from 4 flight per week to 11 flights per week.
Other increases were noted, but cannot remember them all.
Are there any FR news releases about this worldrep?
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Old December 14th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #4848
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Are there any FR news releases about this worldrep?

No just what can be worked out from current timetable.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 04:41 PM   #4849
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It will be more interesting to see how Manchester's share of the NW airmarket has performed over the last six years?
I saw a figure of 76% for last year, but cannot remember where I saw it.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #4850
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I saw a figure of 76% for last year, but cannot remember where I saw it.
Yes, I agree that that would be an interesting stat. Perhaps throw in East Midlands and Brum too?
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Old December 14th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #4851
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It Is interesting because the airport claims it has the same number of people in its catchment area as Heathrow and more than the other London airports.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 02:38 AM   #4852
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Saw a brief newsflash that a Ryanair plane whose crew were trying to make up lost time made a hard (No, I dont mean that in the landing gear not deployed sense) landing at Manchester.
I read that also!
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Old December 15th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #4853
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Delta using the slightly larger A330 on the MAN-Atlanta route from 30th March.

Had been previously reported on here by me, but is now confirmed.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 10:56 PM   #4854
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TAP Portugal doing very well at Manchester.

Now confirmed, 10 weekly to Lisbon next summer:

TAP324 LIS 0745 MAN 1025
TAP329 MAN 1110 LIS 1350

A319 Daily but A321 used on Sundays, so an increase of over 50 seats in itself.

TAP322 LIS 1350 MAN 1630
TAP323 MAN 1715 LIS 1955

F100 Thurs, Fri and Sun

Now bookable on TAP.com and GDS

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Swiss to use a mix of A320 and F100 on the 3 daily MAN-Zurich next summer, however, will be interesting if the F100 stays in the system as Swiss have just lost the use of 5 F100's after dumping the OLT Express contract.

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Flybe have announced a new route to Dan Helder in Holland. It is a 1 stop service via Norwich and operates daily.
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Old December 17th, 2012, 01:40 PM   #4855
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Thought I would dig out the CAA stats. The three recessions stand out:

1980's stagnant
1990's stagnant
2000's slump.

Can we theorise that once the `normal' service is resumed, 30m is very doable within a decade?

If you have another airport you want to compare with, let me know, it is relatively easy exercise to dig-out.
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Old December 17th, 2012, 02:22 PM   #4856
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With our geographic location, I cannot find a sane reason why we cannot aspire to Munich's level of growth. For every argument they are in the centre of Europe, you can say they have massive competition from: Zurich, Milan etc to draw numbers away. We are uncluttered by this and have a huge catchment area, which until Brum's runway extension opens is incapable of handling all aircraft types either!
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Old December 17th, 2012, 07:11 PM   #4857
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http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...=11&fld=201211

CAA confirm up 8.9% in November, Stansted grew by 6.3%. Their first growth in ages.
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Old December 18th, 2012, 06:06 PM   #4858
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Welsh Assembly Government have stated their intention to buy Cardiff Airport, it was privatised in the 90's.
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Old December 18th, 2012, 06:42 PM   #4859
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Air Canada's leisure arm is to be called Air Canada Rouge.

Sadly, initial routes to Europe are:

Toronto Athens
Toronto Venice
Montreal Athens
Toronto Edinburgh

and to the Caribbean:

Toronto Punta Cana
Toronto Liberia
Toronto San José
Toronto Puerto Plata
Toronto Varadero
Toronto Kingston
Toronto Santa Clara
Toronto Cayo Coco
Toronto Holguin
Toronto Samana

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/rouge.html

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Old December 18th, 2012, 06:50 PM   #4860
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Air Canada's leisure arm is to be called Air Canada Rouge.

Sadly, initial routes to Europe are:

Toronto Athens
Toronto Venice
Montreal Athens
Toronto Edinburgh

and to the Caribbean:

Toronto Punta Cana
Toronto Liberia
Toronto San José
Toronto Puerto Plata
Toronto Varadero
Toronto Kingston
Toronto Santa Clara
Toronto Cayo Coco
Toronto Holguin
Toronto Samana

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Athens x2 ? lol one-way ticket to Canada?

Not exactly choice European routes there then!

London, Rome, Paris! Nah...old school...gimme Athens and Edinburgh anytime! Suppose is leisure market but still not exactly inspiring?
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