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Old December 12th, 2012, 02:54 PM   #1
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Wood Dene | Peckham | 9 fl | U/C

Notting Hill Housing's plans for the derelict site of the former Wood Dene Estate, Peckham. Demolished in 2007!!

http://nhhwooddene.com/index.html
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Old December 17th, 2012, 10:39 AM   #2
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I've been waiting a long time for some plans...

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I haven't seen anything 'concrete'.

The worst thing that could happen, is what happened to the Wood Dene estate in Peckham (the estate on stilts). It was demolished, and now we're left with an empty, unused, rubble-filled, fenced off area where the estate used to be. Its been that way for several years now. I hope Southwark won't let the same happen to Heygate.

Wood Dene 1970s - 2006:

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Wood Dene 2006 - present:



What's the local reaction to the proposed scheme?
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Old December 17th, 2012, 11:15 AM   #3
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What's the local reaction to the proposed scheme?
I can guess it will be:

"awwww noooo.. it's too tall, I have sand in my ******, oh no the light from the thing will stop the emmmm thing....."
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Old December 17th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #4
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The new plans really don't look all that different in massing and general layout to what was demolished here!

This interesting then-and-now site on the Wood Dene estate is worth a look - with photos of the old development and the general site plan (note that the lower density northern half of the old estate has survived demolition). This photo in particular looks a lot like the new development.
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Old December 18th, 2012, 12:36 AM   #5
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I did see these plans and thought future slum! Pokey flats off a dual carriageway, with an underground car park and dark unloved public spaces! But I could be wrong, though I wouldn't want to live there...
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Old March 25th, 2013, 10:00 PM   #6
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The proposed plan for the site: http://www.nhhwooddene.com/









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Old March 26th, 2013, 04:19 PM   #7
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Apparently the new development has to contain as many flats as the old estate, hence the similarity! The architects are Jestico & Whiles, they brought us the new East London Line (yay) and that new M&M building on Leicester Square (boo)
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Old March 26th, 2013, 07:13 PM   #8
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A clip of Brian Paddick and some local boys in the old Wood Dene Estate:

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Old March 28th, 2013, 04:36 AM   #9
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The old building reminds me of the Barbican. If it hadn't had had such social problems (plus if had the Barbican's water features) it might have been a desirable place to live, especially if Peckham had got the Bakerloo line extension. Actually given the way things are going it probably would have lost most of its social problems by now anyway and started being more mixed from people moving in to buy a cheap flat etc. If I could afford one I'd buy a flat on the remaining parts of that estate (can't get a mortgage due to being self-employed) - I stayed over at a friends who lived in a studio flat on the estate a few times and it seemed like the area had a good community and it didn't feel dangerous. That was about two years ago, maybe it was worse before. While the new scheme doesn't look bad, having that American brick high rise style, it lacks some of the imagination of the old one. Pretty certain if the same residents were in that building and the same lack of care for the building by the council took place then it would be just as bad.
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A clip of Brian Paddick and some local boys in the old Wood Dene Estate:

I remember being in the car with my mum driving past that estate whilst it was being knocked down and we both cheered at the sight of it finally being dismantled. It was so ******* hideous I can't even put it into words, you really had to see it in the flesh.

I always knew of the trouble in Peckham as I was from nearby Forest Hill and a few Peckham Boys went to my school, I remember my head teacher telling the whole School Assembly that Damilola Taylor had been accepted into the school just before he was killed. In my honest opinion those boys in that video pretty much hit the nail on the head in everything they said. Seriously though was hearing robbery, rape and murder round that area, all for nothing as well absolutely awful.
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So... the development was approved almost a year ago and I've seen no sign of activity on the site.

Is it destined to be a wasteland forever?!
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So... the development was approved almost a year ago and I've seen no sign of activity on the site.

Is it destined to be a wasteland forever?!
I also went past this today!

Some thing is advertised on hoardings of the neighbouring site for next door, didn't get chance to look though.
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...In contrast the London & Brighton pub up the road has been demolished and is well on its way to being replaced by a reasonable-sized block of flats in the space of about 6 months.

As it's Notting Hill Housing Trust you've got to hope it's not land-banking... so... why?
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Old March 25th, 2014, 08:16 PM   #14
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...In contrast the London & Brighton pub up the road has been demolished and is well on its way to being replaced by a reasonable-sized block of flats in the space of about 6 months.
Yes but it looks like it has been built with giant Meccano and plasterboard! I doubt it will last as long as the pub did/ would have...
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Old January 6th, 2015, 07:39 PM   #15
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According to this: http://www.estatesgazette.com/blogs/...ation-schemes/

Work is about to start on site
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Work is about to start on site
Good.

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What's the local reaction to the proposed scheme?
This local's reaction is that he hopes the build quality will be to a high and durable standard. But in light of a great deal of the regeneration in this area in the last 15 years he's not holding his breath.

Hilariously, a while back I also heard another local raging about this Wood Dene scheme as the continued "gentrification" of Peckham. I rather doubt that fellow needs to worry...
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News reaches me (via the Peckham Peculiar) that the Wood Dene estate is finally about to kick off, with works due to commence in Spring this year. Developer Notting Hill Housing Association received planning consent back in July 2013 for 333 residential units in total, 117 of them affordable.
333 residential units going under construction (not altogether admittedly, this will probably take 2 to 3 years to complete, a build out rate of say 100-150 units per annum) is obviously a good thing. However, when you understand that the site previously housed 320 residential units, demolished back in 2007, the delight in seeing new homes built is quickly evaporated when you learn the site when complete, will provide just 13 NET new homes, and a lot less affordable ones at that, as well as the 10 years of dereliction, which has done the surrounding area no good at all.
The site is pictured (below) back in 2009; it currently lies in exactly the same state.
Estate regeneration is a good thing, but when we knock the poorly built 60′s stuff down, we need to be much more ambitious, and increase the density of inner London if we are serious at upping the amount of homes built each year. 13 NET new homes over a 10 year period is derisory.
- See more at: http://www.estatesgazette.com/blogs/....92JqZo3s.dpuf
Got to agree with them... This might be Peckham, but this really is prime real estate... a stone's throw from Queen's Road Peckham which is in turn 3 stops from Canary Wharf and in zone 2 on the popular Overground (plus a 2 stop, 8 minute journey to London Bridge). I welcome the development in the sense that I'm tired of looking at a vast field of rubble, but at the same time if this just turns into an anonymous modern ghetto like Barking Riverside then it's an opportunity lost.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 09:29 PM   #18
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Notting Hill Housing's plans for the derelict site of the former Wood Dene Estate, Peckham. Demolished in 2007!!

http://nhhwooddene.com/index.html
Now this original link doesn't work... are there any plans around?

I can't find anything online beyond the original planning application I linked to above.

Here's another reference, confirming works will commence this spring:

http://peckhampeculiar.tumblr.com/po...s-set-to-begin

A little insight into the delay and the timetable:

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A spokeswoman for Notting Hill Housing said: “We were unable to start works sooner as there were some technical issues with the utilities and heating plant, but these have now been resolved.

“Works will now commence in spring 2015, once archaeological investigations and utilities diversion works have been completed, with an anticipated completion date of May 2018.”
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Old January 6th, 2015, 09:38 PM   #19
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Here's a photo of the current site for posterity, it's not the best quality as I lifted it off a Southwark Council document.

https://flic.kr/p/qH2e1p
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Archive of the site: http://web.archive.org/web/201304230...hhwooddene.com

It could clearly accommodate far more units than will be built.
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