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Old December 19th, 2012, 05:11 PM   #6341
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I'm off on Christmas holidays now so hopefully will be getting a a few grounds done and dusted and posted on here. Only problem is I cannot for the life of me think of any facades for any of the grounds. I'm doing a League 1/2 ground at the moment and all the facades are either brick or plain cladding..? Any suggestions?
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Old December 19th, 2012, 08:19 PM   #6342
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Damn. My Detroit arena file get corrupted or something and it doesn't open anymore. I'm waiting for new inspiration.
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Old December 21st, 2012, 12:03 AM   #6343
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Shame that, it was looking good. You sure there is no way you can recover it to a previous version?

My new stadium is for Real Betis, in a similar style to the Emirates (With a wavy upper tier). The bottom tier was supposed to be large but I accidently made it too large, it currently holds 49,124 which is big enough already! I was thinking maybe of adapting it to fit another team who need a bigger stadium, but Im not sure who? I will probably just keep it as Betis and try to keep the lower tier down to under 30k.

The stand is accessed from the top of the stand and also from he bottom, you can see the gaps in the second picture, there will be staircases there leading down into the moat which will have facilities in it.

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Old December 21st, 2012, 12:59 AM   #6344
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What's that space under the stand supposed to be? The parking lot?
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Old December 21st, 2012, 02:13 AM   #6345
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What's that space under the stand supposed to be? The parking lot?
haha drive in football!!
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Old December 21st, 2012, 04:25 AM   #6346
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Leedsrule what programme do you use for creating stadiums? I use Sketchup and my laptop almost blows up if I go anywhere over a few thousand individual seats leaving me with no choice but to use the same textures as Danielbeier.. Or maybe you just have an amazing computer that can handle all that detail?



Anyway I've done what I usually do and start a new project even though I have plenty of others which are not finished at all... It's the first I have tried that has all the steelwork in first, so I am not sure whether it is even possible to have the structure as it is, as I have no clue about force and supports etc.. What do you guys think? Would it be actually possible for such steelwork to stand?



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Old December 21st, 2012, 04:28 AM   #6347
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By the way there is a support for the second tier (where it over hangs the first) but I forgot to put it in.. you can see the outline of it in the very bottom right of the second picture.. Also I do understand that this is an outrageously large strucure, I just wanted to see what my judgement of force and supports is like from other people's view?
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Old December 21st, 2012, 04:59 AM   #6348
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leedsrule help meeeee!

i want to make a stadium with many seats and when i go over 5,000 the computer just get a little slower but my highest ever seats was 49,000 and it complete dead

what computer do you use?

another question

which computer can handle alot of stuff on sketchup like way more seats
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Old December 21st, 2012, 05:00 AM   #6349
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Leedsrule what programme do you use for creating stadiums? I use Sketchup and my laptop almost blows up if I go anywhere over a few thousand individual seats leaving me with no choice but to use the same textures as Danielbeier.. Or maybe you just have an amazing computer that can handle all that detail?



Anyway I've done what I usually do and start a new project even though I have plenty of others which are not finished at all... It's the first I have tried that has all the steelwork in first, so I am not sure whether it is even possible to have the structure as it is, as I have no clue about force and supports etc.. What do you guys think? Would it be actually possible for such steelwork to stand?





from ground to the topest tier how many meters?
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Old December 21st, 2012, 10:02 AM   #6350
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What's that space under the stand supposed to be? The parking lot?
No, there will be steps from the rows down to the moat (You can see the gaps in the wall ready) and then in the moat and under the stand will be catering and toilet facilities, and a small staircase or ramp going under the stand to the entrance with the turnstiles and exits. Its just another way to enter the stand, each section has about 1400 seats in and 1 entrance isn't enough.


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leedsrule help meeeee!

i want to make a stadium with many seats and when i go over 5,000 the computer just get a little slower but my highest ever seats was 49,000 and it complete dead

what computer do you use?
My computer isn't that good, I just use tons of components and use as few textures as possible, and no photo textures if I can help it. My computer is lagging a bit, but because there are so many components and every section is a component and stuff the file currently is only 1mb in size. It will increse when I start to make things unique but its not about computer performance its about knowing how to keep file size down.

Oh yeah, it is sketchup Whalix, sketchup 7, I cant be bothered to upgrade.

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Anyway I've done what I usually do and start a new project even though I have plenty of others which are not finished at all... It's the first I have tried that has all the steelwork in first, so I am not sure whether it is even possible to have the structure as it is, as I have no clue about force and supports etc.. What do you guys think? Would it be actually possible for such steelwork to stand?
Would it stand? CSaints is the guy to ask

I would say yes, if it is light enough. Steel is pretty strong and it would be reinforced with concrete, ive seen standiums with soimilar structures to that before.

I like the cross seation btw
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Old December 21st, 2012, 10:57 AM   #6351
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How many rows? Isn't it uncomfortable to reach the bottommost row?

Anyway, I like your corner design.
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Old December 21st, 2012, 12:49 PM   #6352
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Using components in skecthup is an absolute 'must' if you want to have individual seats, otherwise it will bring your computer to a crawl after a few thousand seats. Also turn off shadows, that also has a big impact on performance.
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Old December 21st, 2012, 01:10 PM   #6353
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from ground to the topest tier how many meters?
Just over 70m, 70.7 to be exact.. Too high?
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Old December 21st, 2012, 02:37 PM   #6354
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Ok ive decided it will be too big for betis. Any idea's on who to do it for? Probably a national stadium, how about Argentina?

Cap should be at least 80k.

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How many rows? Isn't it uncomfortable to reach the bottommost row?
47 rows. In comparison, the Olympic stadium Lower tier has 24 rows, Wembley has 45 in its LT.

People in the bottom rows would be advised to enter from the bottom of the stand.

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Do you???
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Old December 21st, 2012, 03:10 PM   #6355
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Leeds did it take long to do the seats? I've never bothered trying individual seats on curves, don't have the patience haha
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Old December 21st, 2012, 04:11 PM   #6356
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Do you???
Yes i do. Not a usual way for corners. Everyone here only makes one simple stairs and thats all. So your idea is better than avarage.

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Old December 21st, 2012, 04:17 PM   #6357
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Leeds did it take long to do the seats? I've never bothered trying individual seats on curves, don't have the patience haha
The ends and sides are components, so they are easy. Although the corners are components I still need to do 1 of them, so after Ive done all the steps and stuff I just do it section at a time.

Its hard to explain exactly how I do it, i'll make a video one day to show you.

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Yes i do. Not a usual way for corners. Everyone here only makes one simple stairs and thats all. So your idea better than avarage.
Oh, thank you :p

Anyone have any ideas on a country or big team that needs a new stadium?
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Old December 21st, 2012, 04:54 PM   #6358
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Old December 21st, 2012, 06:32 PM   #6359
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Anyone have any ideas on a country or big team that needs a new stadium?
What cap?
  • Fiorentina
  • Atalanta
  • River Plate
  • Boca Juniors
  • some national team eg. Argentina, Hungary, Spain

The decision is yours.
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Old December 21st, 2012, 06:42 PM   #6360
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What cap?
  • Fiorentina
  • Atalanta
  • River Plate
  • Boca Juniors
  • some national team eg. Argentina, Hungary, Spain

The decision is yours.
Thank you for the help!

Capacity is already about 50k and Im at the point where every row I add adds a thousand to the capacity. It will be at least 75k.

Do River or Boca fill out every game? And do they have any terracing there?

Argentina and Spain both need a proper national stadium, but I want to save Spain for now as the new stadium in Madrid will probably become the national stadium.

Do Hungary need a big national stadium?

I think Argentina would be good. Ideally either River or Boca could use it too but I don't know what their crowds are like. At the moment the pitch area is not big enough to hold a rugby pitch and Argentina are pretty big on rugby so I might build a temporary platform over the moat for rugby if I choose argentina.
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