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Old December 22nd, 2012, 11:14 AM   #6581
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 01:11 PM   #6582
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 01:17 PM   #6583
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I am pretty sure that when the iconic City Life cluster will be visible in the skyline Milan will go to compete with the first group, you will see.
lol

you have no idea how many construction projects are being planned, have been planned, being constructed or will be constructed in mega cities like london, moscow and istanbul. for example in london, the size of canary wharf financial district alone will be doubled by the end of 2020 and there are additional 51 towers which have been approved to build (many of them have world class architecture/design and they are 200m+)

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Old December 22nd, 2012, 01:18 PM   #6584
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I agree it's bigger and taller, it's at a more developed stage for sure. Warsaw together with Istanbul are the best in the second group.
i agree with that
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 01:41 PM   #6585
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 02:49 PM   #6586
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 03:21 PM   #6587
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you have no idea how many construction projects are being planned, have been planned, being constructed or will be constructed in mega cities like london, moscow and istanbul. for example in london, the size of canary wharf financial district alone will be doubled by the end of 2020 and there are additional 51 towers which have been approved to build (many of them have world class architecture/design and they are 200m+)
ok, you're right...probably we didn't consider this.

in any case we're talking about the new "CityLife" cluster in Milan, but there're also other smaller clusters in the city that are going to be costructed...
also in the pics, we're not showing the smaller clusters that the city already has. we're showing you only "Porta Nuova district" cluster.

however I think all the cities of the first 2 groups will improve a lot in the next years (in proportion) and they will increase the value of the group they belong to. I think in the future it will be always more difficult to pass from a group to another and this will increase the value of the cities of the first groups too.

ps: what is your top 10 list?
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 03:25 PM   #6588
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 05:03 PM   #6589
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lol



you have no idea how many construction projects are being planned, have
been planned, being constructed or will be constructed in mega cities
like london, moscow and istanbul. for example in london, the size of
canary wharf financial district alone will be doubled by the end of 2020
and there are additional 51 towers which have been approved to build
(many of them have world class architecture/design and they are 200m+)


We will see. But I prefer to consider the built and the under
construction, in this case I am sure that Milan will reduce the distance
with the best skylines in the next few years.
You don't need mega cities to see a good skyline, infact Frankfurt is
still the best for most of us.
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 05:21 PM   #6590
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ok,
you're
right...probably we didn't consider this.

in any case we're talking about the new "CityLife" cluster in Milan, but
there're also other smaller clusters in the city that are going to
be costructed...

also in the pics, we're not showing the smaller clusters that the city
already has. we're showing you only "Porta Nuova district" cluster.

however I think all the cities of the first 2 groups will improve a lot
in the next years (in proportion) and they will increase the value of
the group they belong to. I think in the future it will be always more
difficult to pass from a group to another and this will increase the
value of the cities of the first groups too.

ps: what is your top 10 list?


however I think that it is wrong to divide the cities in groups, because
tastes are different and also the skylinens of some cities are changing
so fast.
I also learned that it is wrong to consider planned, on hold and
proposed towers, because in this case Milan would have 50 more 100+,
several 200+ and also a 350m! But is going to have only couple of 200+
so far..
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 05:54 PM   #6591
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I agree on your 2 posts above
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 05:58 PM   #6592
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MILANO, main cluster in the clouds...

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Old December 22nd, 2012, 06:14 PM   #6593
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Megacities like London have no competition. Even from Moscow. Moscow is ok but its not a real megacity. Its just a couple of ultra rich folks that got the $$ during the commie-democracy change. As someone has pointed it out the list of skyscrapers being constructed in London is off the scale for any European city.

Warsaw will also have a significant update to its skyline. 2 more skyscrapers are being built right now ...

warsaw spire (220m) - very good height if you ask me










ECHO Tower (155m)







There are many more skyscrapers planned and will probably start construction in 2014 but hey ... I just posted the ones that will start building on 2013 Thats still good ... 2 new skyscrapers every year for Warsaw. 2012 was the year of Zlota44 and Cosmpolitian ... 2013 will be Warsaw Spire and Echo Tower ... 2014 - UBS Tower and HPO Tower hopefully
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 06:31 PM   #6594
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Megacities like London have no competition. Even from Moscow. Moscow is ok but its not a real megacity. Its just a couple of ultra rich folks that got the $$ during the commie-democracy change. As someone has pointed it out the list of skyscrapers being constructed in London is off the scale for any European city.


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I don't even....
I'm not even going to bother....
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 06:42 PM   #6595
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Milan is a rising star I must say. Just 5 years ago, except Torre Pirelli, modern skyline was nothing special, but in just year or two it is becoming one of the best skylines of Europe, especially when you see projects that are under construction. The real advantage of Milan skyline is amazing design of those buildings, in Europe only London can match it. But I think that it was about time for Milan to get a skyline, since it is one of the top five most important cities in EU. Warsaw is also doing a great job, but in my opinion in about 10 years if they continue with this growth the city in general will be able to stand in line with Western European cities, what is amazing if you consider where they were just 20 or 10 years ago, bravo Warsaw.
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 08:20 PM   #6596
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CityLife area...

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By EmmE

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Secondary clusters:

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Ex-Falck Area - It's going to start, 12 towers:





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Old December 22nd, 2012, 08:21 PM   #6597
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Milan is a rising star I must say. Just 5 years ago, except Torre Pirelli, modern skyline was nothing special, but in just year or two it is becoming one of the best skylines of Europe, especially when you see projects that are under construction. The real advantage of Milan skyline is amazing design of those buildings, in Europe only London can match it. But I think that it was about time for Milan to get a skyline, since it is one of the top five most important cities in EU. Warsaw is also doing a great job, but in my opinion in about 10 years if they continue with this growth the city in general will be able to stand in line with Western European cities, what is amazing if you consider where they were just 20 or 10 years ago, bravo Warsaw.
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nice projects from Milan but show more of the ones that are being constructed right now lol. If I posted all the proposed skyscrapers in Warsaw, it would be a 10page post. lol. If we posted all the proposed skyscrapers in London ... well, the whole forum would just shut down :] so lets concentrate on actual in construction buildings.
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Warsaw ... right now ^_^ as in, December 2012 :]







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nice projects from Milan but show more of the ones that are being constructed right now lol. If I posted all the proposed skyscrapers in Warsaw, it would be a 10page post. lol. If we posted all the proposed skyscrapers in London ... well, the whole forum would just shut down :] so lets concentrate on actual in construction buildings.
I showed you the projects UNDER CONSTRUCTION but not visible yet, not proposed projects. you don't know how many proposed skyscrapers we have seen in Milan...
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