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Old November 30th, 2012, 03:27 PM   #601
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Old November 30th, 2012, 03:42 PM   #602
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Almost a thousand students living in the area. 30% of UCL students are International, often pretty wealthy, all spending money in local shops, drinking and eating around Stratford. Designer asians and Euro Sloanes, fithy rich Chinese students who cause no trouble, keep their heads down and get great grades.
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Old November 30th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #603
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That's a little low rise for such a good location
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Old November 30th, 2012, 10:40 PM   #604
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Looks horrible. Such a great site as well. Big disappointment.
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Old December 19th, 2012, 03:32 PM   #605
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Old December 19th, 2012, 04:00 PM   #606
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How the heck can a 25 year old afford £13,200 rent a year?
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Old December 19th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #607
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So no hot water for a couple of weeks and showering at your gym = third world conditions now?

Also, that comment section got racist real fast. Thought I was reading the Mail for a sec.
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 06:16 PM   #608
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So no hot water for a couple of weeks and showering at your gym = third world conditions now?
Yes, actually, no hot water is one of the things that differentiates the developed world from the third world. Until the 20th century, most people in this country had to travel to communal baths - that is if they washed at all.

I don't think it's unreasonable to be angry about moving into a new development which doesn't have even the basics working for prolonged periods of time.
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 09:31 PM   #609
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Yes, actually, no hot water is one of the things that differentiates the developed world from the third world. Until the 20th century, most people in this country had to travel to communal baths - that is if they washed at all.

I don't think it's unreasonable to be angry about moving into a new development which doesn't have even the basics working for prolonged periods of time.
He wasn't saying it's unreasonable to be angry. I'd be angry, but I wouldn't be so narrow minded to say it's like living in the third world. We still have electric to heat our kettles for baths - hell, we're even able to visit a friends house/flat for a hot shower.
Again, anyone who lives in a 1000£pm apartment shouldn't have the indecency to say they feel like they live in the third world. It's embarrassing and selfish.
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 10:05 PM   #610
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It was probably the Standard making up quotes.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 02:48 AM   #611
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Yes, actually, no hot water is one of the things that differentiates the developed world from the third world. Until the 20th century, most people in this country had to travel to communal baths - that is if they washed at all.

I don't think it's unreasonable to be angry about moving into a new development which doesn't have even the basics working for prolonged periods of time.
Basically what Shmunkey said. It's bad, and I would be annoyed, but third world? Really? If they did indeed say that I'm fairly certain they weren't talking about pre-20th century Britain. It's just a silly thing to say.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 11:09 AM   #612
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Jeez, why are you all going on about this "third world" remark? You're all totally missing the point. New property, not cheap to buy, desirable location, A++ World Class City, developed country, should mean hot water is available on tap and on demand. Yes we take it for granted, because it is a fundamental right when you factor in the above items I've listed. These people are right to be angry! And all you lot keep harping on about some off the cuff remark! Get a life.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 03:06 PM   #613
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Jeez, why are you all going on about this "third world" remark? You're all totally missing the point. New property, not cheap to buy, desirable location, A++ World Class City, developed country, should mean hot water is available on tap and on demand. Yes we take it for granted, because it is a fundamental right when you factor in the above items I've listed. These people are right to be angry! And all you lot keep harping on about some off the cuff remark! Get a life.
No, we're not missing the point. We're just saying it was a stupid comment, and you pretty much gave a list of reasons as to why it was stupid (see bolded above). You seem to have gotten a bit overly annoyed by it. Was it you the article referred to? Get over it.
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Old December 24th, 2012, 10:28 AM   #614
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Will the new buildings (when constructed) have hot water??
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Old December 24th, 2012, 12:38 PM   #615
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It's just sad to think that there's a complete lack of respect for others. We really need to start acting like this 'World Class city' and show a bit of class.

You'd hope there'll be hot water.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 06:53 PM   #616
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Went to Westfield Stratford City the other day and noticed two new buildings now under construction:

Unite Stratford - Two large cranes on site. Will consist of 951 student rooms. Designed by BDP architects and will be BDP's tallest building at 28 storeys. It will be the first building to be completed on the Olympic Park post games in 2014.







Stratford Plaza - As previously mentioned within this thread, this is now under construction with plenty of activity now on site.

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Old January 2nd, 2013, 09:49 PM   #617
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Why the sensitivity about the third world remark? No hot water for a couple of weeks in a new build is pretty bloody shoddy.
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Check out this old BD Online article about Stratford High Street, it makes interesting if depressing reading.
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While the world waits with baited breath to see what the official Olympic legacy will look like — a gleaming new city quarter of 8,000 new homes on the verdant doorstep of the Queen Elizabeth Park — few realise that it is already well under way in Stratford, and has been for some time. In fact, more than 3,000 units are already climbing out of the ground.
Bated, ffs.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 01:08 AM   #620
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Newham comes out fighting over Olympics student housing boom

The site sits at the far eastern side of Angel Lane close to Stratford town centre and Westfield’s Stratford City and while located in Newham falls under the planning remit of the London Legacy Development Corporation.

It also sits close to a separate site where Unite and Westfield have consent a 950 student tower as well as the Carpenters Estate, where Newham is backing University College London plans for a £1bn campus.

On the latest site Unite, advised by RPS, has applied for full planning permission for the erection of a building ranging from two–to-14 storeys above ground level.

The council in its capacity as a consultee has already raised strong objections to the proposed development, both in terms of the principle of the development and the proposed design and external appearance of the submitted scheme.

At a meeting this Tuesday Newham’s Strategic Development committee decided to formally object.

While it accepts that there is demand within London for student accommodation, it is questioning how this demand translates to demand within the London Borough of Newham.

It says a need for student accommodation within the Borough has not been demonstrated in this case.

It also questions the suitability of purpose built accommodation is also questioned and moreover it is considered that purpose built accommodation is not the only way of meeting the demand for student bed spaces.

Furthermore, it writes that the proposal would not assist with the council’s objective of creating mixed and balanced communities.

It says: “Supplying a London wide student accommodation need as opposed to tackling the very real problems of overcrowding and high levels of social deprivation in Newham runs counter to the Core Strategy in particular the convergence priority set out in Policy S1 and would not assist the delivery of housing and affordable housing within the Borough.”

It also considers the design, layout, arrangement of massing and external appearance of the proposed development unacceptable in a number of respects.

It writes: “In short this proposal fails to deliver a satisfactory legacy development for this important site and it is therefore recommended that the LLDC should refuse planning permission for the proposal. If approved it is considered that this proposal would set a poor benchmark for future development proposals within the LLDC area.”

Newham also points out that leading student accommodation provider Unite gained consent for a separate 951 bedroom student accommodation development next to the Stratford City shopping centre at the Olympic Park in east London at the beginning of the year.

That scheme too is being built on land owned by Stratford City Developments Ltd, the Westfield vehicle that controls zone one of the 180 acre Stratford City development site.

The site originally lay within zone 2 of Stratford City and had outline consent for as much as 300,000 sq ft of offices. The ODA has agreed to amend the consent to include it within zone 1, where Westfield has consent for a further 1.1m sq ft of offices.

As revealed by CoStar News it is understood that Unite is in discussions to eventually acquire the site from partner Westfield.

Newham itself recently threw its weight behind University College London plans for a £1bn, 3m sq ft Stratford campus nearby at the Carpenters Estate.
I really don't understand Newhams objections. The site is near the station. backs onto the railway line and is on a busy road. I'm not sure what fitting legacy the expected to be built there.

I'm sure purpose built student accommodation would mean less rentals in the private sector and less pressure in existing neighbourhoods.

It also seems two faced to bulldoze a council estate for a high profile new university and then object to some to student housing.

Maybe the council wants only the highest value developments, but it needs some realism here. The more peripheral sites around the park are btter off getting some development now than wait 10/20 years for the perfect scheme. Besides considering the line of crud they've allowed to be built already I can't see how they can be so picky.
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