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Old December 23rd, 2012, 01:39 AM   #39761
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Hard to imagine, 1664 Nieuw Amsterdam > New York:
Indeed, just a little bit different
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 01:48 AM   #39762
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Yes but towers 3 and 4 are a smaller and less 'dominant' in the skyline perspective imo.
The twin towers will never come back and the alternative is thankfully better than the first designs from 2004-2006. In these designs the 'freedom tower' had a glass spire without any use.

Hard to imagine, 1664 Nieuw Amsterdam > New York:
Remember the newspapers back then complained that the building with the attic on top and the windmill unbalanced Nieuw Amsterdam's skyline.........I can't remember the exact words probably as I don't speak dutch ?
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 01:50 AM   #39763
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Skyline wasn't even a word until the turn of the 20th Century.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 03:26 AM   #39764
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4 buildings, not as dominant as the old twins.
You people need to stop saying that, you have never seen the buildings at full height so you can't say that.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 04:05 AM   #39765
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The only thing I don't like about the holidays is... No work means no progress thus makes the forums quite boring.

Not as Dominant as the old twins? One and 2 are just about the same height, and there is a lot more. I just wish 2 was built with One.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 04:21 AM   #39766
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You all can be quite a nuisance comparing incomplete buildings to the twins. You cannot cast a fair judgement until you see the finished product.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 04:22 AM   #39767
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I completely agree with you. The Twins were far more dominating than the new complex. The new complex looks rather shy in the skyline. It looks good, very good I'd say but it still is not a worthy replacement of what used to stand there.
This makes no sense as 1 and 2 are literally almost as tall as the Twins were AND there's two more towers.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 04:25 AM   #39768
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Having two towers creates more of a massive mountain in the skyline whereas having four makes it tend to plateau a little more.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 04:27 AM   #39769
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I completely agree with you. The Twins were far more dominating than the new complex. The new complex looks rather shy in the skyline. It looks good, very good I'd say but it still is not a worthy replacement of what used to stand there.
My problem with this complex it's that it's trying too hard to keep up with the trends, and that's so unlike New York.. NYC starts trends, they should have built something more memorable and unique as opposed to a corner full of shiny glass towers.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 04:28 AM   #39770
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[IMG]http://i46.************/2113ujp.png[/IMG]

i think the twins dominated more because their was only 2 of them

and i think with 3 and 4 wtc its kind of like a descending trend like u have 1 wtc then 2 then u go downhill into 3 (which is shorter then that pic above) and 4 then the rest
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 04:32 AM   #39771
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Great explanation.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 04:57 AM   #39772
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i think the twins dominated more because their was only 2 of them

and i think with 3 and 4 wtc its kind of like a descending trend like u have 1 wtc then 2 then u go downhill into 3 (which is shorter then that pic above) and 4 then the rest
Bravo! You finally understood the whole purpose of the design

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Old December 23rd, 2012, 12:21 PM   #39773
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I completely agree with you. The Twins were far more dominating than the new complex. The new complex looks rather shy in the skyline. It looks good, very good I'd say but it still is not a worthy replacement of what used to stand there.
yeah Kanto, 1 WTC looks real shy in the skyline

enough already about the frigging TWINS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 12:41 PM   #39774
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Don't forget that there are new buildings in the area that changed the skyline, like GS
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 01:25 PM   #39775
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i think the twins dominated more because their was only 2 of them

and i think with 3 and 4 wtc its kind of like a descending trend like u have 1 wtc then 2 then u go downhill into 3 (which is shorter then that pic above) and 4 then the rest
I totally agree. Anyway, this comparison also shows a much more dense skyline in the new situation, which is also a bonus.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 02:16 PM   #39776
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I think the Twins dominated because of the era in which they were built. They symbolized a time when America had the biggest and the best of everything. When you looked at them you weren't just looking at twin skyscrapers, you thought of American pride, dominance, wealth and greatness.

The new complex is still symbolic, just with a very different meaning - hope, rebuilding, perseverance, remembrance, etc.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 02:56 PM   #39777
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I think the twins were more dominating per tower then one of the new towers, but as a whole the new complex is more dominating, and as said there are other towers around now.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 04:31 PM   #39778
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The Twin Towers also appears to be more dominant than the new towers because they contrasted with the surrounding buildings. They were these grey slabs that sometimes appeared white around mostly dark or earth toned buildings.The new towers simply complements the newer glassy downtown skyline. I appreciate both either way.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 05:19 PM   #39779
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But unfortunately WTC2 and 3 aren't built yet. So it's still dreaming until the 20's I think...
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 05:22 PM   #39780
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Bravo! You finally understood the whole purpose of the design
No need to be sarcastic to him, not everyone here knows some of these details.
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