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Old February 8th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #101
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I'm not Nostradamus ,neither you then don't contradict me
Well, I know you love to make comparisons between apples and oranges.... But, but, but unlike you did/do, I personally never made any prediction !
(So, aren't you able to see the difference(s), my deeeaaar Axel ? Are you ?? )
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Old February 8th, 2012, 10:03 PM   #102
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the point here that is this stadium is in troubles.
It isn't sailing in blue ocean but in red one.

This is the only thing i express
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Old February 8th, 2012, 10:18 PM   #103
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the point here that is this stadium is in troubles.
Indeed ! (although nothing final has already been decided yet AFAIK.. )

So, IMHO, no need to further pessimistic predictions!...Don't you think ? (that was my point ! )
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Old February 9th, 2012, 01:48 AM   #104
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After nancy story where we had a remake of "tout va bien madame la marquise" i prefer to be pessimistic first .

And one thing is to mention to everybody:

In a case of public project, a new bid must go in process and chose the final project.

Then it is possible that we have new renders of the project indeed if they are unable to gather 78 millions € on the table
This could take several months

let's stay cautious with this project i repeat...

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Old March 20th, 2012, 11:57 AM   #105
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In the news today : http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actua...ollaert/271396

To sum up : they plan to transfer authority to the region council in order to find financial funds.

I have to confess I don't understand everything, but it seems to be the last chance to save the project.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 03:17 PM   #106
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the last chance...

Lens community has to put 12 million on the table in this case but the mayor of lens doesn't want to pay!

The club want to keep the actual contract because it is profitable for them to be the "owner" of stadium

If the region takes in charge the whole stadium, the club would pay much more to play there.

It is a nonsense situation

i am very sceptic.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 06:20 PM   #107
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the last chance...

i am very sceptic.
Any news for 2013 on this project?
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Old December 30th, 2012, 06:32 PM   #108
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they seem on track to have the financement.

But the capcity will be lowered and a new design is to be unveiled due to the restrictive money for the stadium (70 millions €)

I don't wait too much for that low cost project. with toulouse they will be the worst stadiums for 2016 and a shame for our country.
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Old December 30th, 2012, 07:57 PM   #109
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and a shame for our country.
Says who? Oh, yes, I see: says Axel and only him ()!




No comment!




(i.e. next time you'll make such a definitive judgment, speak on behalf of yourself (and only yourself), if you don't mind! )

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Old December 30th, 2012, 10:26 PM   #110
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then you find those stadiums have real ambitions ?
It 's just some refurbishment without class and you dare to come here to say bul****** ??!
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Old December 30th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #111
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So no financial help from the regional government?
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Old December 31st, 2012, 01:57 PM   #112
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Says who? Oh, yes, I see: says Axel and only him ()!


No comment!


(i.e. next time you'll make such a definitive judgment, speak on behalf of yourself (and only yourself), if you don't mind! )
It was his opinion. That is obvious to everyone but you it seems.
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Old December 31st, 2012, 03:53 PM   #113
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It was his opinion. That is obvious to everyone but you it seems.
Since I haven't seen yet the new Lens project I can't give my opinion about it (maybe you do, but I don't). BTW the former project was good IMHO.

Regarding Toulouse stadium, what's wrong with it ? I've been to this stadium several times and I think it's a good stadium (even in term of hospitality etc, since it has been renovated and upgraded more than a couple of times during the last decade). The main issues with it are the seats & the lower tiers, and that's exactly what they are going to change & rebuild. (and it doesn't need an expansion, especially according to the very low attendance figures in Toulouse which is not a footy city at all).

Maybe some guys like you would like all stadiums to be fully rebuilt every 2 years and the Euro cup hosted in 10-12 brand new 60K stadiums ....Sorry to disappoint you but that's not going to happen especially when existing infrastructures can be used/renovated and nothing to be ashamed of about that!

I mean France is not different to other big countries with old football/sporting traditions that already have sports infrastructures, because if you compare with the past tournaments, most of them was hosted with a mix of existing/refurbished and brand new venues: Germany 2006, RSA 2010 etc. France is not Qatar or Turkey.

So, IMHO, France 2016 doesn't have to be ashamed at all about Toulouse or even Lens stadiums, compared to Franken Stadion during Germany 2006 (which btw has an athletics track while Toulouse and Lens don't), or even the brand new (but quite simple in terms of facilities and design) Zentralstadion, or compared to Kharkiv stadium during Euro 2012, or compared to Prater Stadion during Euro 2008, or compared to Rustenburg stadium and some of the other existing venues used during RSA 2010, etc etc.
(not to mention that Euro Cup is not only about stadiums you know, and in terms of cities, quality of transportation, tourism spots and infrastructure, etc, France doesn't have to be ashamed either, faaaar from that I think, so don't worry, France 2016 will be great just like France '98 was and that's the most important, don't you think? )


Anyway, I think that you guys seem to forget that Germany didn't host with 12 Allianz Arenas in 2006 (Germany which is quite a good example to follow in terms of stadium infrastructure), same about for example the EPL, which is not played at 20 Emirates Stadiums, far from that. etc etc.



PS: About the Axel's post, indeed he gave his opinion, so maybe he could have added some words like "I think" or "in my opinion" etc, in his sentence . Because, again, this is only his opinion, and not an absolute and universal fact/ truth. (that's what I meant with my last post)

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Old January 1st, 2013, 11:37 AM   #114
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Well spoken parcdesprinces, I totally agree with you. Enough is enough.
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Old May 29th, 2013, 10:35 AM   #115
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http://www.info-stades.fr/fr/article...stade-bollaert

They will invest 70 millions to lose 6000 seats. French Magic...

By the way, the title of the thread should be updated
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Old May 29th, 2013, 11:48 AM   #116
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i repeat this project is dull has lost interest since beginning
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Old May 29th, 2013, 07:31 PM   #117
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i repeat this project is dull has lost interest since beginning
Much like your good self Axel, though that would imply you were interesting at some point to begin with as opposed to being a jumped up little troll with an overinflated opinion of himself that people have long since figured out. Why don't you run along and get yourself a hobby, or a girlfriend?
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Old May 30th, 2013, 12:13 AM   #118
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do you know the case of french football before talking?
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Old August 12th, 2013, 10:45 AM   #119
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So what EXACTLY are they going to do now? I understand they will reduce the capacity to 35.000 and refurbish interior/exterior? Any more details available at this time (what stands will be modified, what exterior modifications are planned)?

If not, any news on when there will be new renders?

On a side note (and this is strictly my personal opinion).

I am also a supporter of using existing infrastructures for tournaments. Look at the new stadiums they built for South Africa. These big stadiums cost to much money, and after the tournament their attendance rates are laughable, while maintenance costs remain high. Better to refurbish smaller existing stadiums, that can still be viable after the tournament. Im not sure about the attendance rates of RC Lens for the past seasons, as i am not French, but i think they will reduce the capacity for a good reason. Besides, 35.000 still complies with the UEFA euro standard for round matches afaik.
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September will see new renders
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