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Old December 10th, 2009, 07:55 AM   #161
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Umm are you getting this site on Collins St mixed up with the Mint car park?
Sorry I went to write a response to that one thinking it was posted on the other one but posted it on here by accident. I have ammended the response on this one regarding this development. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 08:05 AM   #162
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Not refused, just not approved yet :-)

It will require amendments before it coudl be approved which is why it is taking so long.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 08:09 AM   #163
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Restrictions? All Western countries have prolonged and restrictive planning processes. Its part of being in a democracy.

Most European cities are much more restrictive in where and what can be built and as such many have not grown as a result. We have built quite alot in the last 10 years so I am not sure why you feel things are too restrictive. Its called planning and is designed to ensure the city grows in accordance with rules and regulations.
Well I can understand severe restrictions in cities like Paris or Rome...but other European cities are building some really brilliant and cutting edge stuff...and loads of it. Just go to the international forums and click on http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=905
and check out cities like Barcelona and London, Berlin etc etc
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Old December 10th, 2009, 11:39 PM   #164
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most europeans cities have more restrictions but they also have many more 'as of right areas' and decent guidelines so a developer knows what to do to get an approval.

obviously in Paris you can't build tall buildings around the historic core. and you can't build much at all around teh Eifell Tower etc. But in other areas you might have as of right approval up to 8/15/20 stories.

Like in Sydney any site within 800m(?) of a train station can build as of right to 8 stories I think.

Melbourne on the other hand has a very ad hoc process site by site and its no wander its confusing, frustrating and costly for developers.

One ray of hope is the recent 'tram corridors' study by Rob Adams that suggested up to 8 storeys along tram corridors (he also suggested bus corridors). The Government has picked up on that and is doing a full assessment block by block to work out the development potential and I suppose an outcome of that could be 'as of right' zoning along tram corridors for 4-6 story buildings.

this is the link to the rob adams report. Page 33 has his 1 page planning scheme for tram corridors (unfortunately the government won't allow themselves to make it this simple!)
http://www.bedp.asn.au/papers/docs/T...rt_July_09.PDF
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Old December 11th, 2009, 05:18 AM   #165
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Revised Plans

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Old December 11th, 2009, 05:39 AM   #166
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Very SX. I think the glass panels actually bend inwards which would be totally awesome. I'll wait for clearer renders...
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Old December 11th, 2009, 05:45 AM   #167
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Looks like it is 5 storeys taller than the previous proposal which would make it around 210m high :-)

Awesome!

The tower is around the same distance from the Yarra as 120 Collins so it should be able to go up to 220m without overhadowing the river.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 05:53 AM   #168
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Awesome, i like this even better than the other, sexxxxxyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy thing...
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Old December 11th, 2009, 06:53 AM   #169
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need clearer renders, but it appears that La Louvre and the corner property are more retained in this scenario that the earlier proposal.

I have to say that I think it is wrong to effectively demolish (through facadism) buildings built in 1855 and 1867 both of which have seen roughly 70%+ of our cities history. The buildings as they currently stand will find tenants as shopfronts and boutique offices or similar.

however canterlevered development into the air above is a different matter and I'd be happy for that to occur.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 07:13 AM   #170
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Fantastic. Though would like to see some clearer shots of how the podium is going to look, and how the old buildings are being retained.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 07:22 AM   #171
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way better than the previous proposal. hopefully this gets up.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 08:27 AM   #172
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mmm- i think it looked better before, but i'm glad that it's less imposing on la louvre.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 11:15 AM   #173
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Great ! New render looks fantastic.. let alone extra height > 200m

I am praying that this to be approved soon.... lets hope!
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Old December 11th, 2009, 11:43 AM   #174
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Prefer the faceted facade, gives the building a bit more interest along Collins Street, and should result in some cool reflections from surrounding buildings a bit like 171C.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 12:29 PM   #175
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think this is a great building - better than the old design and yes, like the keeping of the original street frontage - similar to how they did it with 120 Collins, but a bit smarter here.

I have a feeling this will be approved and we're looking at our next 200m+ building....
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Old December 11th, 2009, 12:37 PM   #176
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Freaking hawt.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 12:44 PM   #177
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Sexy...... Hot ! So what we need !

Love it !
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Old December 11th, 2009, 03:22 PM   #178
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Looks like they got some ideas from BHP in Perth. Some distinct similarities there.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 10:49 PM   #179
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Just sent an E-mail to Justin Madden supporting this proposal.
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Old December 12th, 2009, 12:44 AM   #180
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Looks like it's set back further than the previous design.

Good result?
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