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Old January 30th, 2005, 05:04 PM   #1
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Sigtuna, the oldest town in Sweden

Sigtuna is the oldest still existing town in Sweden. It was founded in the 10th century.


The head street in Sigtuna, and its also the oldest street in Sweden,


The ruins of St.Peters church, from the early 12th century.






I really like ruins


The ruins of St.Olof from the 12th century, a copy of the Nidarosdomen




damn, lot of ruin pictures, well enough i say
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Old January 30th, 2005, 05:27 PM   #2
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Nice and interesting place to visit. AFAIk, Sigtuna was destroyed by the Latvian vikings in 1187 (it`s little known, but Latvian (Baltic) vikings traveled to Denmark and Sweden).
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Old January 30th, 2005, 05:30 PM   #3
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Impressive. I thought Stockholm was the eldest before this thread.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 05:31 PM   #4
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Oh, okay. 'Cos I've been hearing conflicting versions of who were the culprits behind the burning of Sigtuna... Some say it was the Russians, some say Finnish & Estonian pirates.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 05:38 PM   #5
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and I've heard it was a joint operation between Estonian and Curonian vikings.

Anyway, nice thread
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Old January 30th, 2005, 05:38 PM   #6
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No problem, Estonians, Karelians, Livs and Kurlanders, maybe all of them. Some say German crusaders came to end Kurlander and Estonian 'pirate' activities.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 05:39 PM   #7
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cool.. i live in sigtuna kommun in Märsta.. pretty close to sigtuna stad..
even tho i hate many of the people (snobs) in Sigtuna, its a nice, cosy town.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 05:44 PM   #8
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Looks very small... What is the population of the town?

And the ruins are very nice
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Old January 30th, 2005, 05:45 PM   #9
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Quote:
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and I've heard it was a joint operation between Estonian and Curonian vikings.

Anyway, nice thread
Curonians weren't vikings.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 06:05 PM   #10
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Inspired by this thread, I googled the oldest (non-existing today) town in Sweden, Birka. Deserted at the end of 8th century.

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Old January 30th, 2005, 06:22 PM   #11
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Very intresting and beautiful old town. This is definitely a place I would like to visit someday .
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Old January 30th, 2005, 06:33 PM   #12
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@Kommentare: maybe they weren't, I don't know, that's what I've heard at least. One book I have says that according to some Swedish sources, the attackers were Estonians and also pagan pirates, pagan Karelians, Baltic people and the Estonian fleet are mentioned.
Anyway, the reason for this attack was probably the fact that Swedes were constantly raiding our lands.
It's interesting, though, that all Baltic nations want to claim the "honour" of doing this. Of course, I understand, that at least regarding Estonians and Latvians, it's a question of national pride or smth, because we lost our independence and then we needed something to show our pre-historic might but actually being proud of killing a lot of innocent people and burning a city to the ground...well this "honour" is a bit questionable really.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 06:38 PM   #13
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I love old ruins. Although they could rebuild that church.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 06:44 PM   #14
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Sigtuna was destroyed by the people from the estonian island of Ösel. After that Birger Jarl build a fortress on a small island where the baltic sea meets the lake Mälaren. The island's name was Stockholm

After that we did a lot of crusades to the eastern shores of the baltic sea.and we colonised Finland and of course attaced the island of Ösel (the big one)






the smallest city hall in Sweden.


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Old January 30th, 2005, 07:51 PM   #15
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really nice pictures Ringil
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Old January 30th, 2005, 11:03 PM   #16
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Great pics and I love the church ruins
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Old January 31st, 2005, 01:58 AM   #17
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I think the village Stockholm was founded on is older, but I guess it isnt considered as existing anymore...
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Old January 31st, 2005, 08:17 AM   #18
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I think the village Stockholm was founded on is older, but I guess it isnt considered as existing anymore...
the oldest parts of Stockholm is from the 13th century, while Sigtuna was founded in the 10th century, but you must be thinking of Birka
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Old January 31st, 2005, 12:18 PM   #19
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Curonians definitely were Vikings - they repeatedly crossed Baltic and invaded Oland island for a while, attacked Swedish, Danish, Polish coast. Being Viking is way of life, not nationality. This is plain robbery in a way... nothing to be very proud of. Of course, Curonians were attacked by other Vikings in return.
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Old January 31st, 2005, 12:26 PM   #20
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Did not know that Sigtuna is the oldest town in Sweden. Have been reading some Scandinavian archaeologists who try to find regional definition of medieval town. There have been town-style settlements in Scandinavia very long ago, f.e. fornborg in Oland island... when I lived there for one year, I managed to visit most of them. Damn interesting things!
F.e. Ismantorp with 88 stone buildings, 3rd - 5th century.
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