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Old May 17th, 2016, 04:40 PM   #1
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St James Court | New Bird Street | 157 Apartments | 7-11 Storeys

As posted in the planning applications thread, this was recently approved and the legal agreement was signed on the 5th May.

Construction should be starting towards the end of the year, with completion planned for June 2018, so I thought it'd deserve its own thread now.

This is another development being marketed by Pinnacle Alliance and is now listed on their website here.

The main contractor will be Welsh firm GM Jones, who are interestingly the approved licensee for IntegraSpec Insulating Concrete Formwork (IFC) in the west of England. The ICF system uses expanded polystyrene panels, which are then reinforced and filled with concrete. The polystyrene remains in place and creates a super insulated structure, energy efficient and quick to install. I'm sure we'll see this system used here.

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Application Number: 15F/2835
Site Address: Site bounded by Greenland Street to the south, New Bird Street to the north, St James Court to the east St James Street Liverpool L1
Application Type: Full Planning Permission
Development Type: extension/addition: 3+-storey, partial demolition
Proposal: To demolish one storey commercial block and erect 7/11 storey mixed use development, consisting 4 studios/workshop units on ground floor (B1 use) and 157 residential apartments (C3 Use) on upper floors.
Current Status: FINAL DECISION
Applicant: Hillmore Developments Limited
Chris B posted these images of how the site currently stands.

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Site location -

Original image from Google Maps. Copyright to Google. Shown here for informational purposes only.

From Google Street View -

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Looking into St James Street, and the building will rise from behind the tree in the centre of the image -

Original image from Google Street. Copyright to Google. Shown here for informational purposes only.

In short, with this area of the Baltic Triangle, so far, being relatively low level, 10 storeys here is going to make quite an impact.
And some more details from the planning documents, posted by Owl.

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This development is now called 'St James Court' and here's some images of it -









A closer look at the corner features -

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Bonus post, the development will include a 'living wall' (similar to the X1 The Quarter) in the central courtyard -

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Old May 17th, 2016, 08:43 PM   #2
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Couldn't swing a cat in there..
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Old May 17th, 2016, 08:54 PM   #3
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01:19 "Over the past 15 years Liverpool's population has doubled" er...

A lot of other questionable soundbite stats in there too.
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Old May 17th, 2016, 09:25 PM   #4
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Those flats are too small.
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Old May 17th, 2016, 09:31 PM   #5
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The 'studio' is really shocking. Tired of Studios being used as small when they should just be open plan
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Old May 17th, 2016, 10:17 PM   #6
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A mystery to me is why Liverpool flats cannot be a little bit bigger than those in other cities, given that land prices should be lower. If you pay less for the land, and your construction costs are lower (than, say, London), how much would it cost to make flats that are big enough if someone wants to, maybe, have a few books, hang a few coats up in winter, have a DVD collection, have an armchair as well as a sofa, have enough clear floor to do some yoga, be able to extend the dining table occasionally when you have people round...have some big speakers, put your bike equipment somewhere.....have lots of shoes, lots of make-up, perhaps try to put the Sunday papers out (imagine that in one of those bedsits!).....they are just so mean, so pinched, they look small when empty and the ubiquitous over-size fruit bowl is fooling no-one. Where do you put coffee tables, or footstools? Not exactly a luxury in life but if you put in proper sized furniture in those layouts you will be tripping over yourself.

Would it cost another £10k per flat for that little bit of extra space? £20K? £30k? I've no idea but I imagine we would be surprised at just how little money is being saved by forcing people into tiny little cubby holes like this.

The city council should have set proper standards and stuck to them, and it's a great shame they seem encourage these modern slums. They are wretched places that will damage the morale and potentially damage the mental wellbeing over people who get stuck in them for more than a couple of years.

I do welcome the balconies in this development, but its noticeable that you can't even have a proper unobstructed door to them (in the 2 bed) given how tiny the rooms are. Really dreadful.
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Old May 17th, 2016, 10:41 PM   #7
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Property prices are also lower and its all about the profit. This is going to become increasingly a problem as it becomes more acceptable to be single in your 30s and 40s. Tiny, tiny 1 beds.
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Old May 18th, 2016, 12:30 AM   #8
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Property prices are also lower and its all about the profit. This is going to become increasingly a problem as it becomes more acceptable to be single in your 30s and 40s. Tiny, tiny 1 beds.
What is wrong with being single in your 30s and 40s?
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What is wrong with being single in your 30s and 40s?
Nothing. Its just a statement of fact, its becoming more acceptable to be single in your 30s and 40s when 50 years ago it would have been considered weird. Just society trends changing.
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Old May 18th, 2016, 12:28 PM   #10
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Nothing particularly special here, but it'll improve the area considerably and hopefully spur on further development.
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Old May 18th, 2016, 10:34 PM   #11
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The design is ok at most but the size is utter shit and just not good enough. The kitchen and living room should be at least double that. Quality spaces make quality neighbourhoods.
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The global property company has announced a 10-storey £30m residential and commercial development in Liverpool’s Baltic Triangle.

St James Court, on the corner of Greenland Street and St James Street, will include 157 apartments in a mix of studio, one- and two-bedroom arrangements, with commercial spaces on the ground floor.

Set for completion in 2018, the development will have elevated landscaped gardens, with balconies and roof terraces accompanying most apartments in the complex.

G M Jones has been appointed as the contractor for the development, and Ellis Williams is the architect.

Richard Caton, head of marketing at Pinnacle Alliance, said: “Liverpool’s population has more than doubled over the last few years, with demand for high quality accommodation surging as young professionals move to the city.

“This demographic demands a central location and quality housing, with the Baltic Triangle among the most desirable neighbourhoods in the city. St James Court will strongly appeal to Liverpool’s burgeoning professional market.”
https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/new...riangle-homes/

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Old May 21st, 2016, 07:06 PM   #13
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Can't even get the number of storeys right
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All fine and dandy, but given they've had The Paramount and The Quadrant sat idle for a couple of months now, I'd like to see them sorted before they shift focus onto another development.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 06:27 PM   #16
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Different development. St James Court is the next block.
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01:19 "Over the past 15 years Liverpool's population has doubled" er...

A lot of other questionable soundbite stats in there too.


Manipulation of the facts there... could they mean the city centre's population?
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Planning has been re-submitted for this one, to change the plans from the original 7/11 storeys comprising 157 apartments, to a new plan for 11/12 storeys comprising 217 apartments. The original proposals were put forward by Pinnacle (which explains why nothing has happened). The applicant is now listed as Citipads, who are also behind the active Pointfield development on St. Anne Street.

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Application Number - PL/INV/3838/17
Site Address - St. James Court St. James Street / New Bird Street / Greenland Street LIVERPOOL L1 0DN
Proposal - Demolition of existing buildings and erection of part 11 / part 12 storey residential development comprising 217 residential apartments (Use Class C3), two commercial units (Use Classes A1, A2, A3 & A4) with associated terraces, access, servicing, parking and landscaping
Applicant - Citipads
From here - http://northgate.liverpool.gov.uk/Pl...DAURI=PLANNING

Citipads website - http://www.citipads.co.uk/
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