search the site
 daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > European Forums > UK & Ireland Architecture Forums > Projects and Construction > Liverpool Metro Area

Liverpool Metro Area 'Scouse Scrapers for both sides of the Mersey



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old April 3rd, 2017, 05:01 PM   #1
Andy K
Registered User
 
Andy K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 165
Likes (Received): 623

Plaza 1821 | Princes Dock | 105 Apartments | 16 Storeys

More information is available on Plaza 1821 at Princes Dock, so I thought it was time to create a separate thread. For reference, this sits between The Lexington and Hive City Docks.

Quote:
Peel puts in application for Princes Dock PRS block

Peel Land & Property and Regenda Group have submitted their planning application for the third PRS tower to be proposed at Princes Dock, within Peel’s Liverpool Waters regeneration area.

Designed by Hodder + Partners, the £21m Plaza 1821 will be made up of 105 one- and two-bedroom apartments, alongside ground floor retail or amenity space.

At around 85,000 sq ft, the multi-storey apartment block will be built by Peel as the company’s first PRS project, and then bought by Regenda and managed by its PRS subsidiary, Redwing Living.
Article continues here: https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/new...ock-prs-block/

Visualisation of the proposal:



From Princes Parade:

__________________

Paul D, Streetlife1 liked this post
Andy K no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old April 3rd, 2017, 05:08 PM   #2
buggedboy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 11,603
Likes (Received): 2941

Decent, that.

The fact it's next to two taller buildings will give it the varied roof-line other parts of the city desperately lack.
__________________
TOTAL ESTIMATED VALUE OF REGENERATION PROJECTS ON SITE IN LIVERPOOL C.R. AS OF 7TH DECEMBER 2014: £2.94bn.
buggedboy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2017, 05:48 PM   #3
openlyJane
Human Being
 
openlyJane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 30,501
Likes (Received): 41184

Good sized balconies too. I recall speaking with the architect, and she considered this aspect to be very important. I agree.
openlyJane no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2017, 06:09 PM   #4
Paul D
CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER
 
Paul D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 18,276
Likes (Received): 6614

I like the more detailed picture, it looks so much better on closer inspection, this will look great between the Hive and the Lexington.
__________________

Streetlife1 liked this post
Paul D no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2017, 07:41 PM   #5
Dreamer
Let the Jam decide
 
Dreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: LIVERPOOL!
Posts: 1,986
Likes (Received): 286

It's ok, but why not taller? Another 5 storeys would have just been enough to give it better proportions. I also think wrap around balconies would be better for the residents on the top two floors.
__________________
Liber8
Dreamer no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2017, 07:48 PM   #6
Ste
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: England
Posts: 2,165
Likes (Received): 845

This will be decent as a filler. Which one is going to go up first?
Ste no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2017, 08:05 PM   #7
Andy K
Registered User
 
Andy K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 165
Likes (Received): 623

For future reference, here's the planning application:

Quote:
Application Number: PL/INV/1117/17
Site Address: William Jessop Way LIVERPOOL L3 1QW
Application Type: Full Planning Permission
Proposal: Full detailed planning application to enable the construction of a 15 storey residential tower (Use Class C3) and ground floor space (Use Class A1 or A3 or A4) comprising 105 private rented sector apartments and 26 car parking spaces (2 disabled), 32 cycle parking spaces together with plant, storage, reception, residential amenity areas, landscaping and associated works on currently vacant brownfield land at William Jessop Way, Princes Dock, Liverpool, L3 1QP (Northing 390898, Easting 333677).
Applicant: Mr Neil Baumber
The description says 15 storeys, but I count 16 storeys on the render above.
Andy K no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2017, 08:08 PM   #8
openlyJane
Human Being
 
openlyJane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 30,501
Likes (Received): 41184

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy K View Post
For future reference, here's the planning application:



The description says 15 storeys, but I count 16 storeys on the render above.
15 residential floors plus ground level amenities.
openlyJane no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2017, 09:22 PM   #9
Flan
Registered User
 
Flan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Liverpool L41
Posts: 739
Likes (Received): 1292

I'm not too keen on this myself, in my opinion this building is just average and not good enough, to have such a prominent place on our waterfront. The sides of this are hideous so i'm glad they shall be covered by the other two towers. Positives for this development are the use of ground floor space, inclusion of balconies and the fact it will fill a plot on the dock. I'm hoping once all three developments are built this building won't look so mediocre.
__________________
Great cities remain great cities, even during times of desolation and decay, and they have a habit of coming back again and again, and against all odds.

Last edited by Flan; April 3rd, 2017 at 09:43 PM.
Flan está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2017, 09:23 PM   #10
1878EFC
Registered User
 
1878EFC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 1,431
Likes (Received): 98

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flan View Post
I'm not too keen on this myself, in my opinion this building is just average and not good enough, to have such a prominent place on our waterfront. The sides of this are hideous so i'm glad they shall be covered by the other two towers. Positives for this development is the use of ground floor space, inclusion of balconies and the fact it will fill a plot on the dock. I'm hoping once all three developments are built this building won't look so mediocre.
I've got to agree, looks a bigger version of Elliott's ropewalks stuff.
1878EFC no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2017, 03:48 PM   #11
baias
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: live in a beautiful over 1800 ft high valley in the woodlands some 30 miles from bilbao
Posts: 2,834
Likes (Received): 1018

so so many announcements of new builds are completely driving me mad!!

please, stop this carnival for a while as I just do not know the city well at all and must be using google earth all the time to position and locate them only to forget and miss them again the following day!!!
baias no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2017, 04:05 PM   #12
UnterDenLinden
über den Boden
 
UnterDenLinden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,300
Likes (Received): 716

We've not had any new build announcements lately have we? Just planning permission being submitted for a few buildings we already know about.
UnterDenLinden no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2017, 04:39 PM   #13
baias
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: live in a beautiful over 1800 ft high valley in the woodlands some 30 miles from bilbao
Posts: 2,834
Likes (Received): 1018

sorry as my english skills are not up to yours, but that is what I meant
baias no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2017, 09:32 PM   #14
Fat Ed
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 75
Likes (Received): 48

I like this. I think it's lower height provides a good balance on Princes Dock and its appearance blends in nicely with The Lexington and 1821.
Fat Ed no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2017, 09:34 PM   #15
Paul D
CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER
 
Paul D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 18,276
Likes (Received): 6614

__________________

Streetlife1 liked this post
Paul D no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2017, 09:43 PM   #16
openlyJane
Human Being
 
openlyJane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 30,501
Likes (Received): 41184

The removal of the gates, and the way the building is designed to ‘face the city’ - not turn its back, is a good move, I think.
openlyJane no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2017, 11:04 PM   #17
B&I
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,655
Likes (Received): 878

I wonder what happened to the original gates? Frankly I've got better ones in my yard than the current ones. A replica of the originals, set back in the courtyard, would be a pleasant if pointless visual feature.

Overall, the straightforward, unfussy design of that block goes well with its setting from that angle.
B&I no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2017, 11:08 PM   #18
Roses and Snow
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,141
Likes (Received): 390

Mark your calendars boys, momentous day....


This could do with being taller.
__________________
Liverpool Love- Showcasing the Beauty of Merseyside
Roses and Snow no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 5th, 2017, 12:43 AM   #19
selecta
Registered User
 
selecta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Liverpool / London
Posts: 478
Likes (Received): 165

hahahaha where my like button
selecta está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old April 5th, 2017, 11:33 AM   #20
tomo90
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 4,762
Likes (Received): 920

I think it should be 26 storeys at least.
tomo90 no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu